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  • fsquid
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    • Jul 2002
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    #376
    Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

    Originally posted by Psyblast
    "Almost"?
    yea, you would have had Henry if Cal was still at Memphis. But evidently, Cal wanted to give Kansas another title.

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    • Psyblast
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      • Jun 2003
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      #377
      Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

      Originally posted by fsquid
      yea, you would have had Henry if Cal was still at Memphis. But evidently, Cal wanted to give Kansas another title.


      So instead of Henry, Cal got another five-star (Bledsoe) and kept another that was never on Memphis's radar (Orton). That's "almost" better than what he had at Memphis?

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      • cubsfan203
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        • Jun 2004
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        #378
        Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

        Originally posted by Psyblast
        So instead of Henry, Cal got another five-star (Bledsoe) and kept another that was never on Memphis's radar (Orton). That's "almost" better than what he had at Memphis?
        When is the last time a team got three of the top 5 recruits? Not to mention that Cal was going after Bledsoe when he was still at Memphis as well, so they could have wound up with him as well.

        Memphis would have wound up with one of the best recruiting classes ever. Kentucky has one of the best in recent memory, no doubt, but I can't see an argument that it is better than what Memphis was lined up to get. It's all irrelevent now, and that wasn't the point of my post anyway. I'm interested to see if Cal can keep all those guys happy and see if he can get them deep into the tournament. It's going to be one talented team, but only time will tell if they can play together and win it all.


        *Ok I take that back. I hadn't checked the rankings recently, didn't know Henry had dropped to 8th, but he was still #1 at one point. Either way I'd take #1, #2, #8 over #1, #2, #23 any day.
        Last edited by cubsfan203; 05-19-2009, 05:26 PM.
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        • Cebby
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          • Apr 2005
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          #379
          Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

          Originally posted by cubsfan203
          *Ok I take that back. I hadn't checked the rankings recently, didn't know Henry had dropped to 8th, but he was still #1 at one point. Either way I'd take #1, #2, #8 over #1, #2, #23 any day.
          They also got #22 and #40.

          More importantly, they got back an 18 and 9 player, and might get a 24 PPG player. If Meeks comes back, Kentucky would have a better team than Memphis would have had.

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          • cubsfan203
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            • Jun 2004
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            #380
            Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

            Originally posted by Cebby
            They also got #22 and #40.

            More importantly, they got back an 18 and 9 player, and might get a 24 PPG player. If Meeks comes back, Kentucky would have a better team than Memphis would have had.
            ...and Memphis had #52 and was in the final two for that #23 (probably would have got him considering he went ahead and went to Kentucky to be under Cal).

            So you're looking at #1, #2, #8, #23, #52 vs. #1, #2, #22, #23, #40.... Sorry, don't see how I'd be wrong in saying that Memphis' class would have been better. The debate had nothing to do with what team would have been better.

            Like I said though, it doesn't even matter. Kentucky will be a top 10 team next year, and Memphis won't make the tournament and will be lucky to finish in the top 3 of their conference.
            Last edited by cubsfan203; 05-19-2009, 06:27 PM.
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            • fsquid
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              • Jul 2002
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              #381
              Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

              ok, now you guys are confusing me. They would have had Henry, Coleman, and the other Juco kid plus maybe Bledsoe.

              Who gives a ****, the important thing is that Cal has handed Kansas a championship for the second time in 3 years.

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              • fishepa
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                • Feb 2003
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                #382
                Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

                It will be interesting to see if Cal can actually forge a team out of all these egos and talent.

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                • Husker_OS
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                  • Jun 2003
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                  #383
                  Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

                  Is Bledsoe even going to qualify?
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                  • PhantomPain
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 3512

                    #384
                    Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

                    Originally posted by Husker_OS
                    Is Bledsoe even going to qualify?
                    Yes http://blog.al.com/birmingham-news-s...ic_bledso.html

                    And as for Bledsoe, most insiders had Bledsoe about to commit to Gillispie before he was fired and since it is an unknown, I really don't think he can be considered in the equation when comparing recruiting classes for Memphis. You can for UK since he did commit there but there was never a verbal or public announcement that Memphis was his leader.
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                    • KG
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                      • Sep 2005
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                      #385
                      Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

                      Now we're just waiting on Lance & Latavious.
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                      • wildcatchild
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2129

                        #386
                        Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

                        This is just freaking unbelievable with Wall deciding to be a Cat today...never in my wildest dreams would I think the UK program could turn around this fast. I always thought when Gillispie was here Calipari would be the one coach that could turn this program around the quickest, but I never thought he could put together one of the greatest classes of all time in such a short time span.

                        Which begs the question...why don't more teams run the dribble drive? Recruits seem to be drooling over this system. I realize the system is relatively new, just surprised more teams are not using it.
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                        • fsquid
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #387
                          Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

                          Memphis didn't run the dribble drive last season because they didn't have the personel. You have to have the people to run it or you look like a fool.

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                          • jake44np
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                            • Jul 2002
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                            #388
                            Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

                            Originally posted by wildcatchild
                            This is just freaking unbelievable with Wall deciding to be a Cat today...never in my wildest dreams would I think the UK program could turn around this fast. I always thought when Gillispie was here Calipari would be the one coach that could turn this program around the quickest, but I never thought he could put together one of the greatest classes of all time in such a short time span.

                            Which begs the question...why don't more teams run the dribble drive? Recruits seem to be drooling over this system. I realize the system is relatively new, just surprised more teams are not using it.
                            And UK has won what so far?
                            You do realize alot of these recruits UK is landing will be one and done dont you?
                            UK fans are acting like the National Title is a givin next year. lol
                            Can we wait to see them play before we declare the program is "turned around" and have them cutting down any nets??
                            I do understand the excitment but seriously, alot of my buddies are huge UK fans and they are talking about winning 2 or 3 National Titles in a row, STARTING NEXT YEAR!
                            So what is up with Meeks?? Is he coming back??? And where is UK getting all of the scholorships for these guys arent they like 3 or 4 over the limit now?
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                            • mvb34
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              #389
                              Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

                              Originally posted by kgx2thez
                              Now we're just waiting on Lance & Latavious.
                              Is Georgetown still in the run for Latavious? I heard he visited GTown the past weekend..
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                              • Cebby
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                                #390
                                Re: '09 Recruiting Discussion

                                Originally posted by jake44np
                                And UK has won what so far?
                                7 National Championships

                                UK fans are acting like the National Title is a givin next year. lol
                                Them not making the Final Four would be the biggest mismanagement of talent since Duke in 2002.

                                I do understand the excitment but seriously, alot of my buddies are huge UK fans and they are talking about winning 2 or 3 National Titles in a row, STARTING NEXT YEAR!
                                It's certainly possible. They've already got one top 10 player for next year, and they're in the running for 3-4 others.

                                And where is UK getting all of the scholorships for these guys arent they like 3 or 4 over the limit now?
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