2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

[sfx]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

I don't think it's that injuries need to be toned down, I think it's more the fact that when an injury occur, (even if it's as mild as a ankle sprain and the player is listed as day-to-day)that team's feel they need to make a roster move to make up for that missing player. Then once they make that move they need to then replace the player they just replaced ala the Mavs trading for another SF in Harrison Barnes after trading Carter for Brand to replace the injured Blair at backup PF.

Part of the problem is the competitor logic. I mean, sure, Dallas now need a SF. But who would trade them Barnes? The roster building logic is flawed. The teams don't seem to prioritize who is a core player, who is a building block, who is trade bait. The GM needs to assign "roles" to players as he sees them. Right now, roles are strictly coaching/tactical based.

[apollooff320]

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Hmm...I went back and read old threads from 2K12 and 2K13 and noticed that a lot of the things you guys are saying have been mentioned before. Hopefully since this is a new gen these ideas will actually get put into place.

[Gosens6]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Hmm...I went back and read old threads from 2K12 and 2K13 and noticed that a lot of the things you guys are saying have been mentioned before. Hopefully since this is a new gen these ideas will actually get put into place.

We've been saying it for years. This is the first time it's been acknowledged by a dev who works on that part of the game.

The fact that they're giving us somewhat of a fix in patch 3 is mindblowing and amazing.

[RED BULL]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

We've been saying it for years. This is the first time it's been acknowledged by a dev who works on that part of the game.

The fact that they're giving us somewhat of a fix in patch 3 is mindblowing and amazing.

It's likely the last patch we get before they fully focus on 2k15. I remember 2k12 had tons of issues but only received like 2 patches.

I think 2k normally gives u about 2 to 3 and then shifts focus to the next game. I don't think I've ever seen a patch past January from them. Really crappy customer service if you ask me, but as long as people keep buying the game year to year praying that the issues they've been having for years have been fixed, they will continue in this manner

[kamackeris76]

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Are there any gameplay issues that will be focused on with patches? Warping and general Defensive issues that I have read about comes to mind? Oh and maybe some decent rosters with missing players etc....

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[radog99]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

I knew mygm would be plagued with association issues. I'm sad because I had to cancel my xbox one preorder. I was going to get bf4 also but nba 2k14 association/mygm was the MAIN reason I was getting one. Foolishly I thought upgrading to a $500 console and 2k having the power of next generation consoles I thought all the lingering issues (for years) would FINALLY be fixed.

EXACTLY SIR.

[Virtualc]

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Listen I love this game but now that I have gotten to play it more I see a huge problem with player roles and trade logic.

Player roles no reason Jamison, Crawford, and Barnes are starting. No reason that Collison wants a bigger role because he knew he wasn't going to take over for Chris Paul!

Same thing with Jr Smith, Ginobli and other sixth men starting.

Trade logic to many times in trade finder I find insane trades where I could get david west, kevin love and other untouchables..



Ideas on how to fix this.

If u want to keep players role I'm fine with that but let us choose the roles in the beginning. also in the twitter era and stuff why not talk to the players and find out if they would take bench roles and stuff and add that to the game.

Trade logic just get rid of the star rating and add untouchables.

[Altohombre]

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for the love of everything holy can we get CPU vs CPU back in season modes? Please!

[HuRRiCaNeS27]

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I dont understand why they would take out the option to turn it off...

Unless it was fixed there's no reason to force us to have to deal with that BS. I might not get the next gen 2k because of that cuz i despised player roles. Midway through the season half you bench wants out.

[RumbleCard]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

Listen I love this game but now that I have gotten to play it more I see a huge problem with player roles and trade logic.

Player roles no reason Jamison, Crawford, and Barnes are starting. No reason that Collison wants a bigger role because he knew he wasn't going to take over for Chris Paul!

Same thing with Jr Smith, Ginobli and other sixth men starting.

Trade logic to many times in trade finder I find insane trades where I could get david west, kevin love and other untouchables..



Ideas on how to fix this.

If u want to keep players role I'm fine with that but let us choose the roles in the beginning. also in the twitter era and stuff why not talk to the players and find out if they would take bench roles and stuff and add that to the game.

Trade logic just get rid of the star rating and add untouchables.

There is one very simple fix to lopsided and illogical trades. One all encompassing admin feature that allows you to decline or accept a CPU to CPU trade. A basic pop-up window as you sim through the dates where it tells you the CPU to CPU proposed trade and you as the admin(commissioner) can either approve or decline the trade. Sure it would be repetitive and annoying but its the easiest solution that would still allow some measure of CPU to CPU trades.

However that doesn't fit the MO of an RPG game which is clearly the direction they're trying to take. Even with that said I think it would be a welcome feature that exacts some measure of control.

I don't care how robust or amazing the new consoles are its almost impossible to have picture perfect trade logic. When we see lopsided trades in real life there are reasons that play out in reality that will never translate well to video games.

Just allow us to administrate over the trades and be done with it.

[LakersNation]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

There is one very simple fix to lopsided and illogical trades. One all encompassing admin feature that allows you to decline or accept a CPU to CPU trade. A basic pop-up window as you sim through the dates where it tells you the CPU to CPU proposed trade and you as the admin(commissioner) can either approve or decline the trade. Sure it would be repetitive and annoying but its the easiest solution that would still allow some measure of CPU to CPU trades.

However that doesn't fit the MO of an RPG game which is clearly the direction they're trying to take. Even with that said I think it would be a welcome feature that exacts some measure of control.

I don't care how robust or amazing the new consoles are its almost impossible to have picture perfect trade logic. When we see lopsided trades in real life there are reasons that play out in reality that will never translate well to video games.

Just allow us to administrate over the trades and be done with it.

This seems like easiest way to fix the mode. I appreciate 30 team control but that's very time consuming. Let me reject the Chauncey Billups for Anthony Davis trade for "basketball reasons"

[RED BULL]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

There is one very simple fix to lopsided and illogical trades. One all encompassing admin feature that allows you to decline or accept a CPU to CPU trade. A basic pop-up window as you sim through the dates where it tells you the CPU to CPU proposed trade and you as the admin(commissioner) can either approve or decline the trade. Sure it would be repetitive and annoying but its the easiest solution that would still allow some measure of CPU to CPU trades.

However that doesn't fit the MO of an RPG game which is clearly the direction they're trying to take. Even with that said I think it would be a welcome feature that exacts some measure of control.

I don't care how robust or amazing the new consoles are its almost impossible to have picture perfect trade logic. When we see lopsided trades in real life there are reasons that play out in reality that will never translate well to video games.

Just allow us to administrate over the trades and be done with it.

If u think that's happening in 2k14,u can forget it. But it would be very nice for the future, a way to veto trades sounds like the perfect implementation

[RumbleCard]

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If u think that's happening in 2k14,u can forget it. But it would be very nice for the future, a way to veto trades sounds like the perfect implementation

I agree. Unfortunately administrating features have never been well received by 2K.

I could see where guys who control 30 teams(or any of us) wouldn't mind being able to steer a teams direction in FA without actually having to make the move.

IE a FA screen with options that can be selected.

Lets say for the Spurs

C - Sign
PF - Sign
SF - Back up role player only
SG - Do not sign
PG - Do not sign
Backup - Best available

This way you know going in to FA the Spurs aren't going to try and land a starting pg and they'll pursue the best available bigs that fit into the cap.

Simple predetermined directions/options could go a long way in cleaning up the failures of CPU logic. Its impossible to recreate trade and FA logic and the sooner they realize that and allow people to steer the league in the direction they want to go they'll forever be fighting public opinion.

Same or draft logic. Why can't we just select an option that would stop say the Rockets from drafting a C. It doesn't have to be complicated if you just give the gamer options to direct the league's teams.

[Boilerbuzz]

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I don't think it's that injuries need to be toned down, I think it's more the fact that when an injury occur, (even if it's as mild as a ankle sprain and the player is listed as day-to-day)that team's feel they need to make a roster move to make up for that missing player. Then once they make that move they need to then replace the player they just replaced ala the Mavs trading for another SF in Harrison Barnes after trading Carter for Brand to replace the injured Blair at backup PF.

Exactly. No offense, but this is why game design is not easy. It's so easy to say, "this feature isn't working right, take it out!" If you did that all the time, you wouldn't have a game. The average Joe does this far too much. We see 2 examples of that in this thread alone starting with roles, and now the comment about injuries. It's insane.

I agree, the injuries seem to trigger reactionary trading. So, injuries need to have special weighting when determining team needs. IMO


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[Boilerbuzz]

Re: 2K needs to patch player roles NOW and not wait until next year.

lol, so we have the truth out in the open finally: they actually WANT (and are TRYING) to take control away from us. Awesome. And here I was being flamed to death for not being all giddy when MyGM details were fully announced. Man I should go find that thread and bump it.

Thank you for the honesty though (and I mean that. I'm pretty sure that the Devs that post on forums have been coached to speak in generalities and half-truths. We like honesty.). Barring a return of good ole fashioned Association Mode, you have saved me atleast $60 in future purchases.

I hope you guys can find away incorporate the option to turn Player Roles off for this year (and I know you said it's hard because you're messing with menus and such). If not, MyGM will probably be unplayable, and that means 2K14 just turned into a coaster for me. What a shame.

I know you are doing this respectfully, but are antagonistic, ultimatum posts like this really necessary? I get where you're coming from. Don't get me wrong. But the best thing about this thread was how the back and forth was all driving toward one ultimate goal: making the mode better for EVERYONE. And some sacrifices are needed on both sides. This thread is very informative about the process. Sounds to me like the guys working on this stuff are just like the rest of us. So, I would think it is safe to assume their goal is not to take anything away from anyone. Why would they make a game they wouldn't want to play? If they won't play it, why would they assume you would?

But, this thread is the reason I love to come to OS. Direct interaction with the people that make the game. As long as the posters remain respectful, fair, and open minded, we will continue to get these interactions.


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