If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

[MosiahThaGreat]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

Despite the unbelievable agenda against 2k in this thread, I do agree with them in being disappointed by the regression issue. However, I'm sure that it was probably an unpatchable issue, but still, an acknowledgment would be great.

There's no agenda going on, atleast not from me. I am just calling it how I see it and I don't believe anyone is either, these are valid complaints. The game has some serious issues.

[apollooff320]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

I find it funny that every year people say that years game is the best of all-time. 2k15 is not the best sports game of all-time in my opinion.

and they will say it next year and the year after that. I didn't buy 2K15 it was given to me as a gift. After 2K14 I said I was done buying NBA 2K on release day and will stick with that. Now if someone gets it for me i'll play it and play the hell out of it and report problems here. But to be honest 2K15 is the best basketball game IMO out of all the other past 2k games, but only because it plays more like basketball. I still see the same issues of past releases. To say 2K15 is the best sports game would be a straight up lie.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

I find it funny that every year people say that years game is the best of all-time. 2k15 is not the best sports game of all-time in my opinion.

Sure, there are extremes to everything. Just like the people go from October to the next October literally doing nothing but complaining. Don't contribute to any conversations in any other way, but continue to buy or "stumble upon a copy" every year

I'd actually like to know who called 2K14 NG the best of all time though....that game was a mess.

[wonderBOi]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

Yes this is one good game with lots of fancy stuff added to it especially this year, but the bottom line is, the mentioned bugs, especially the "regression issue" is the deal breaker here. What would you do if in two year-time all of the superstars are washed-up stars? Why would you call it realistic and deep when it is not?

At the end of the day, we are the ones playing this game and we are their customers, we are always right. They should even be thankful for this community as people here give them feedback on what needs improvements/adjustments rather than finding it out by themselves.

[spankdatazz22]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

My original question was IF WE DON'T GET ANOTHER PATCH THIS YEAR are you ok with that? You don't think that is a concern? Have we moved to a point where if things aren't fixed on the first major patch they won't be fixed at all?

They put out three patches - the 3rd being one of the most extensive patches for a sports game to date. I think that gets lost when people begin focusing more on the few things that may be wrong versus the vast majority the game gets right. Yet because they're not putting out a 4th patch we have a thread calling for a boycott. Implementing MyLeague was a vast undertaking as a mode and again - people aren't thinking about the majority they got right, people are trying to torpedo the mode for the few things it may get wrong. What's the incentive for a developer to take risks if you have people placing a disproportionate amount of attention on what's wrong versus what's right? (imo) No one's talking about giving a developer a pass. But geez - a little perspective on the big picture should be shown.

Not to mention the amount of things that can go wrong if they were to make changes. I think some people assume patches are easy, but we have no idea how much is involved from a resources standpoint in terms of testing, if an issue is even fixable, the potential for a possible fix causing some other issue, etc.

[Shady Mike]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

There's no agenda going on, atleast not from me. I am just calling it how I see it and I don't believe anyone is either, these are valid complaints. The game has some serious issues.

As I posted before I have bought every 2K since 2K2...no agenda here lmao I'm a huge fan so you can stop there...

They put out three patches - the 3rd being one of the most extensive patches for a sports game to date. I think that gets lost when people begin focusing more on the few things that may be wrong versus the vast majority the game gets right. Yet because they're not putting out a 4th patch we have a thread calling for a boycott. Implementing MyLeague was a vast undertaking as a mode and again - people aren't thinking about the majority they got right, people are trying to torpedo the mode for the few things it may get wrong. What's the incentive for a developer to take risks if you have people placing a disproportionate amount of attention on what's wrong versus what's right? (imo) No one's talking about giving a developer a pass. But geez - a little perspective on the big picture should be shown.

Not to mention the amount of things that can go wrong if they were to make changes. I think some people assume patches are easy, but we have no idea how much is involved from a resources standpoint in terms of testing, if an issue is even fixable, the potential for a possible fix causing some other issue, etc.

Want me to pull up the patch notes? 2 of the 3 patches were absolute jokes...watch the video on the first page I said it clear as day, this game got ONE true patch. I don't give a damn if they added 400 new game modes...if they put them in the damn game they should function properly. AND IF THEY DON'T they need to be fixed via a patch idc how many patches it takes.

[Shady Mike]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

Yes this is one good game with lots of fancy stuff added to it especially this year, but the bottom line is, the mentioned bugs, especially the "regression issue" is the deal breaker here. What would you do if in two year-time all of the superstars are washed-up stars? Why would you call it realistic and deep when it is not?

At the end of the day, we are the ones playing this game and we are their customers, we are always right. They should even be thankful for this community as people here give them feedback on what needs improvements/adjustments rather than finding it out by themselves.

This is the most well put post in this thread right now.

[spankdatazz22]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

As I posted before I have bought every 2K since 2K2...no agenda here lmao I'm a huge fan so you can stop there...



Want me to pull up the patch notes? 2 of the 3 patches were absolute jokes...watch the video on the first page I said it clear as day, this game got ONE true patch. I don't give a damn if they added 400 new game modes...if they put them in the damn game they should function properly. AND IF THEY DON'T they need to be fixed via a patch idc how many patches it takes.

Imo your extremism in reacting to a problem makes you come off more like a petulant child that's mad you're not getting everything you want than someone being able to appropriately weigh issues, and how unreasonable you're willing to be. The whole "I don't care if they had 400 modes" sounds silly - that SHOULD matter.

[Shady Mike]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

Imo your extremism in reacting to a problem makes you come off more like a petulant child that's mad you're not getting everything you want than someone being able to appropriately weigh issues, and how unreasonable you're willing to be. The whole "I don't care if they had 400 modes" sounds silly - that SHOULD matter.

Spank,

To me that's amazing.

For two reasons your response amazes me. First of all what I bolded up top simply means "Don't add game modes if they don't work" Really dude? That's extremism? That's extreme? Where are we at in society today where a gamer gets railed on in a forum for simply voicing his opinion to a dev saying "HEY, don't launch game modes with gamebreaking bugs!" Because the Myleague regression bug RIGHT NOW is exactly that. GAMEBREAKING.

Second of all you are the second person in this thread to take a shot at me personally, and I refuse to tolerate that. If this continues you will be reported. Everything I have said has been well within the TOS, and I expect the same from everyone else in their responses to this thread. Take Care.

[JazzMan]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

Sure, there are extremes to everything. Just like the people go from October to the next October literally doing nothing but complaining. Don't contribute to any conversations in any other way, but continue to buy or "stumble upon a copy" every year

I'd actually like to know who called 2K14 NG the best of all time though....that game was a mess.

I'm on the record for saying NG 2k14 was the best basketball game ever gameplay-wise at the time lol. Can't speak for MyGM or MyCareer, though.

[redsox4evur]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

Despite the unbelievable agenda against 2k in this thread, I do agree with them in being disappointed by the regression issue. However, I'm sure that it was probably an unpatchable issue, but still, an acknowledgment would be great.

Just an FYI they did acknowledge it. Someone came into 1 of the threads and said they are looking into it. So they have acknowledged it. They just haven't respond since.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

Spank,

To me that's amazing.

For two reasons your response amazes me. First of all what I bolded up top simply means "Don't add game modes if they don't work" Really dude? That's extremism? That's extreme? Where are we at in society today where a gamer gets railed on in a forum for simply voicing his opinion to a dev saying "HEY, don't launch game modes with gamebreaking bugs!" Because the Myleague regression bug RIGHT NOW is exactly that. GAMEBREAKING..

Watched the video on the front page. Having a hard time following you to be honest.

You think the community doesn't care about the regression issue (which is essentially what this thread about) because your thread in particular has '1 like' and '2 stars'? Do you not see the huge thread with regular posters, posters who have been here for years talking about the issue? We're all aware of it and think it's awful. Your take on this is "They know DAMN well they could've fixed it'". What is that based on? I really want to know why you think 2k has a "fix the regression bug" button that they refuse to push....just to annoy the community?

It doesn't work like that man, and it's naive to think so. I foresee a lot of disappointment in your future if your expectation for modes to either be released flawlessly or fixed immediately. Bugs happen, issues arise, it's technology. I'm not suggesting we don't hold these company's responsible.....I without question think we should. You just have to look at it from angles.

If you decide to boycott, I'll salute you and everyone else who follows through though. I just wouldn't be too surprised if not many follow suit.

[apollooff320]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

Sure, there are extremes to everything. Just like the people go from October to the next October literally doing nothing but complaining. Don't contribute to any conversations in any other way, but continue to buy or "stumble upon a copy" every year

I'd actually like to know who called 2K14 NG the best of all time though....that game was a mess.

I see nothing wrong with ppl buying the game and complaining every year. It's their right to since they payed their hard earned money on the game. That's how things get fixed...it's the reason why the game is getting better each year.

[23]

Re: If we don't get another patch...Would a 2K16 boycott be justified?

Watched the video on the front page. Having a hard time following you to be honest.

You think the community doesn't care about the regression issue (which is essentially what this thread about) because your thread in particular has '1 like' and '2 stars'? Do you not see the huge thread with regular posters, posters who have been here for years talking about the issue? We're all aware of it and think it's awful. Your take on this is "They know DAMN well they could've fixed it'". What is that based on? I really want to know why you think 2k has a "fix the regression bug" button that they refuse to push....just to annoy the community?

It doesn't work like that man, and it's naive to think so. I foresee a lot of disappointment in your future if your expectation for modes to either be released flawlessly or fixed immediately. Bugs happen, issues arise, it's technology. I'm not suggesting we don't hold these company's responsible.....I without question think we should. You just have to look at it from angles.

If you decide to boycott, I'll salute you and everyone else who follows through though. I just wouldn't be too surprised if not many follow suit.

I think its enough here, 24th said enough to end this... this has gone on long enough

I see nothing wrong with ppl buying the game and complaining every year. It's their right to since they payed their hard earned money on the game. That's how things get fixed...it's the reason why the game is getting better each year.

Its NOT your right to come here and complain and gripe and start threads about boycotting because this is Operation Sports not Operation complain, not Operation WHINE and GRIPE and this is most importantly NOT 2k sports website.

At this point everything is being regurgitated and if you decide not to buy the game, just dont buy it. You don't need to come to the internet to make an announcement about not spending your money because YOU are the one that's mad, then trying to organize a mob.

You guys need to relax a bit.