NBA2k16 Computer On ball D issue (vid inside)

[newmanpblog]

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I've mastered dribbling to the point where I can do this but still not get past the CPU more than 5% of the time with ANYTHING I know...https://vimeo.com/140682938


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[DmaXmius101]

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it's not about being able to get passed your man everytime, stop cape-ing for the game and look at the context of the video, if your defender is that far out of position, there is no way they should be able to recover in a split second.

You guys are literally okay with random bump animations that don't make sense in the context of the situation ??

Ok let's say you blow by defenders, what are you trying to do with the rock(basketball) you can't just blow by someone without a game plan. basketball is a game of angels you will get cut off quickly..watch your angles that's all i'm saying.

[Scrooge]

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what are you talking about? I think fixing this "suction cup" animation would actually make the game even better. I'm just saying that let's not overreact now, it's still a pretty isolated glitch and overall CPU on-ball defense is still fantastic. When this glitch is fixed it will be even more fantastic.

And I'm telling you just cuz you may or may not be going to look at replays constantly doesn't mean it's an isolated glitch, 24th letter just posted like 7 videos after that. This happens very frequently. And I can make 10 more videos showing the same thing when I get off work if you would like. If you want it fixed stop coming in here undermining this thread.

Ive been a member on this forum since like 2k8, look at my post count and realize. I wouldn't make a thread off just one random "one of" infrequent glitch smh

[newmanpblog]

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Ok let's say you blow by defenders, what are you trying to do with the rock(basketball) you can't just blow by someone without a game plan. basketball is a game of angels you will get cut off quickly..watch your angles that's all i'm saying.

Did Tony Wroten not do a dribble move? Did he not have the angle?


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[ksuttonjr76]

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Idk how often you actually go to replays to see what's really happening, but this is a very very common issue not some one off thing.
I've been working on mastering iso motion none stop since friday and I can recreate this very often. If you would like more proof I can make more videos of it

And Even if the defense is realistic "most of the time" according to you, this thread isn't about those times, it's about when it isn't realistic. I don't understand why you think fixing this sucktion cup animation will ruin everything else

Okay, let's be fair. The game is not realistic 100% of the time. However, I'm totally against trying to fix something that's a very rare occurrence. Out of 10 tries, if it only happens once, then that's a good day in my book. Hell, I'll give you two. However, if it's happening most times than not, then I'll start to question whether or not it's a problem.

Right now, I've been mostly successful, so I'm not that overly concern about it. I get upset when I SWEAR that I had a open look and I get my **** blocked to the third row. However, I'm not going to start complaining and ask that they patch the closeout speed.

In reality, was it as open as I thought it was, or do I need to merely adjust? I saw the video. I get it. In my mind, the ball handler wasn't that explosive to begin with. Russel did make a mistake, but he's pretty athletic too. To me, it probably was suppose to be more of a "backpedal" move to get back in position from the side and to bump the ball handler off his course. I just don't think there's a true animation to replicate that.

In real life, I have done that stupid mistake, but I have long legs. I can backpedal quick enough to recover on the ball handler from the side. I might not get directly in front of you, but I can disrupt you enough to slow you down. HOWEVER, if you had some crazy *** speed burst from your first step, well...hopefully my big can stop you.

[Daking0325]

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Excellent video showing off a problem that needs to be fixed. I love the defense on here but there are instances such as the one posted in the vid where it's virtually impossible to get past the defense. I've tried lowering the on ball defense slider a bit to counteract it. There should be more hip riding animations on defense.

[Scrooge]

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Ok let's say you blow by defenders, what are you trying to do with the rock(basketball) you can't just blow by someone without a game plan. basketball is a game of angels you will get cut off quickly..watch your angles that's all i'm saying.

????????? What does this have to do with anything lmao ???????

You know so much about basketball and the angles to take but yet a clearly beat defender magically sliding sideways in a split second despite his momentum looks legit to you lol

[iamgramps]

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Excellent evidence here. I'm surprised nobody hit you with a "lower the difficulty" or "sliders" reply haha I want a challenge based on real basketball strategy not video game cheese. I understand that implementing that into 2K is a work in progress, but what was in that video doesn't belong in any simulation basketball game no matter the difficulty.

I'm playing on pro and still have bigs sticking to my guards like glue on isolation plays. So, I don't think it matters what level you're playing on. I'm also horrible at the game, too, so that doesn't help.

[bo.jangles344]

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here's another thing people don't realize--

sub-par defenders will actually tend to sag off of you instead of trying to play you up tight, because they know they're at a disadvantage

so if you see that happening, the best option may not be trying to blow past them in iso-motion, but instead just step back for an open jumper

blows my mind people forget that's an option when taking on a defender one-on-one

I will admit i suffer from the rondo syndrome a bit. Lol i don't have a great shot but I'll pull it, for sure. I wish that was the best explanation, because they do sag off me. But most of the time i was watching rondo in Dallas (I'm a mavs fan) he wouldn't even TRY to make the defender guess. I've hit some 3s, just not consistently so i see your point. But the fast break issues and the full court press i was talking about don't account for your theory.

And let's not act like 95% of the guards in the league are great defenders here guys. Let's say around 20-30 guards and wings are decent to above average and maybe 5 are elite in the entire LEAGUE. Most decent to above average defenders CAN get past their man most of the time, they wouldn't be in the nba otherwise. Whether you're watching high school, college, or professional, most guards can penetrate. The question is, and what separates the elite guards are what they do afterwards. Can they finish? Can they hit the mid? Can they pass to an open man when they collapse the d? That's all "high level bball IQ" stuff that hubie, van gundy, and just about every color commentary person throws out when talking about the westbrooks, roses, and lillards.

Wanna talk hoops? We can do that. We're talking about morphing.

Edit: most ball handlers, not defenders.

[Scrooge]

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Okay, let's be fair. The game is not realistic 100% of the time. However, I'm totally against trying to fix something that's a very rare occurrence. Out of 10 tries, if it only happens once, then that's a good day in my book. Hell, I'll give you two. However, if it's happening most times than not, then I'll start to question whether or not it's a problem.

Right now, I've been mostly successful, so I'm not that overly concern about it. I get upset when I SWEAR that I had a open look and I get my **** blocked to the third row. However, I'm not going to start complaining and ask that they patch the closeout speed.

In reality, was it as open as I thought it was, or do I need to merely adjust? I saw the video. I get it. In my mind, the ball handler wasn't that explosive to begin with. Russel did make a mistake, but he's pretty athletic too. To me, it probably was suppose to be more of a "backpedal" move to get back in position from the side and to bump the ball handler off his course. I just don't think there's a true animation to replicate that.

In real life, I have done that stupid mistake, but I have long legs. I can backpedal quick enough to recover on the ball handler from the side. I might not get directly in front of you, but I can disrupt you enough to slow you down. HOWEVER, if you had some crazy *** speed burst from your first step, well...hopefully my big can stop you.

Derrick rose and John wall aren't explosive off the dribble ???

Rose and wall aren't explosively fast but kyrie has explosive defensive recovery??
Even Derrick fisher could get by a defender that far out of position for Petes sake


What about the other videos 24th letter posted ?
What about the fact that I said I can recreate this at a very frequent rate?

I think I'm done going back and forth with you. Good day sir

[Scrooge]

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here's another thing people don't realize--

sub-par defenders will actually tend to sag off of you instead of trying to play you up tight, because they know they're at a disadvantage

so if you see that happening, the best option may not be trying to blow past them in iso-motion, but instead just step back for an open jumper

blows my mind people forget that's an option when taking on a defender one-on-one

Again what does this have to do with the video/ thread ? The defenders were playing tight in all the examples posted ?

[kadzier]

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Again what does this have to do with the video/ thread ? The defenders were playing tight in all the examples posted ?

not addressing the specific video posted in the OP, but addressing the people who later complain that they're not able to blow past big men with their speedy point guard

maybe it's because the big men are sagging off and giving you the outside shot, and you should take it

[MrBallaBoy21]

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This game is NBA 2K11 Jr. Those clips are exactly like the ones I made when 2K11 was out.

[ksuttonjr76]

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Derrick rose and John wall aren't explosive off the dribble ???

Rose and wall aren't explosively fast but kyrie has explosive defensive recovery??
Even Derrick fisher could get by a defender that far out of position for Petes sake


What about the other videos 24th letter posted ?
What about the fact that I said I can recreate this at a very frequent rate?

I think I'm done going back and forth with you. Good day sir

The OP video didn't have any of the above players.

24th's videos show players blowing past their defenders. Hell, I'm impressed that he did it with George Hill, and I run with the Pacers. I normally use Paul George and Monte Ellis in ISO 1-4 plays to clear out one side of the floor.

If you're able to recreate this situation at a frequent rate, then it's not the game. It's you. You're not creating enough separation from the defender when you're making your move.

[rejaa17]

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I understand where the people are coming from I sometimes myself run into this problem. BUT I DO KNOW. They better not ruin this perfectly playable game with some atrocious patch, Nerfing the defense entirely. I really don't know if this is even patchable to be honest but we will see.