No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

[stillfeelme]

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This issue I have with sliders (and knowing if they're right) is who's to say the user isn't just jacking awful shots?

Say I put them down to 45 for 3pt. Then shoot 11% from behind the arc and complain its too low...... not factoring in poor shot choice etc.

You know what I mean?

Then it swings both ways, you play lights out with GSW and suddenly its too high (but the splash family just splashed)..... such a grey area topic which fills me with uncertainty......

I'm talking specifically for Users (not AI). Pitting AI vs AI wouldn't be a solution for this reason of course.

This is why I never tweak sliders - because I'll always just doubt what I've done ya know?

But 2K17 definitely needs something....

The only "right" area might be real fg% even the people that play that way are saying they had to tweak the sliders to bring the FG% down.

Now for the shot stick users everything else is about getting it close so that the majority of people that play close to simulation manner get FG%'s close to real stats with some reasonable variation.

This year there are a lot of variables thrown in the mix shooting is a little bit easier this year alone from a control standpoint. It is also easier to get open off of playbook penetration, screens etc. Then when you heat up when the double team starts to come you can easily pick apart the AI.

I still say the best way to determine if shooting is too easy or hard is play the same team over again multiple times to see which "average" or below average shooters keep hitting shots game after game.

I know this is strictly simulation sliders but something is wrong with how the CPU is running in transition and jacking up threes. They are doing it too much for teams that don't even play uptempo like that. I played the Cav's multiple times and the Cav's were doing this against me. The Cav's were playing way too fast. The Cav's don't play fast but they do shoot a lot of threes. Something is wrong with this.

I know I am not the only one experiencing this.

[thevardano]

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Games plays really well with Sim sliders from 2k16, it's not that hard to adjust it little bit too, but it's a clearly mess with MyCareer.

Overall it would be really good to have Sim sliders out of a box. At first I played Superstar and did not see new sliders and was very, let's say not happy, with CPU FG %.

[alabamarob]

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This issue I have with sliders (and knowing if they're right) is who's to say the user isn't just jacking awful shots?

Say I put them down to 45 for 3pt. Then shoot 11% from behind the arc and complain its too low...... not factoring in poor shot choice etc.

You know what I mean?

Then it swings both ways, you play lights out with GSW and suddenly its too high (but the splash family just splashed)..... such a grey area topic which fills me with uncertainty......

I'm talking specifically for Users (not AI). Pitting AI vs AI wouldn't be a solution for this reason of course.

This is why I never tweak sliders - because I'll always just doubt what I've done ya know?

But 2K17 definitely needs something....

The only clean way to do it is to focus on open shots. People talk about defense and percentages, but the only clean number is open shot percentages. That is all i want as a realistic number. The other stuff is user specific.

[alabamarob]

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This seems like a good start. I'll play around with this for a bit. Thanks. If others can confirm it would be good.


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40, 40, 45 47 it was it has been for years on hof sim. That would be my preference as default hof.

[Fullspeed]

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Shooting % is way too high for both user and cpu on superstar/hof. Not sure what would be the ideal slider set since it is different from previous years. It definitely need to be tweaked and lowered in order to resemble a realistic stat line.

[ataman5]

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This seems like a good start. I'll play around with this for a bit. Thanks. If others can confirm it would be good.


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Well as you already told, i rather see it all sliders on 50 and difficulty level to keep up user/user difficulty on everything so 1 layer to keep the game balanced. I believe a lot of the 2k players sim or not, veteran or not are tired and biased about sliders in some ways so i really like that no more different set of sliders so i hope that you'll find the happy medium out of the box and 50 for all kinda stuff. Thanks for looking up Mike.


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[hristi]

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So I can't change mycareer slider to sim?

[ClutchCity]

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Shooting is perfect to me at least. I dont think nothing needs to be tweaked. The game plays fine. Just watched a old summer league game and buddy heild was making crazy contested jumpshots.

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[MarkWilliam]

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The only "right" area might be real fg% even the people that play that way are saying they had to tweak the sliders to bring the FG% down.

Now for the shot stick users everything else is about getting it close so that the majority of people that play close to simulation manner get FG%'s close to real stats with some reasonable variation.

This year there are a lot of variables thrown in the mix shooting is a little bit easier this year alone from a control standpoint. It is also easier to get open off of playbook penetration, screens etc. Then when you heat up when the double team starts to come you can easily pick apart the AI.

I still say the best way to determine if shooting is too easy or hard is play the same team over again multiple times to see which "average" or below average shooters keep hitting shots game after game.

I know this is strictly simulation sliders but something is wrong with how the CPU is running in transition and jacking up threes. They are doing it too much for teams that don't even play uptempo like that. I played the Cav's multiple times and the Cav's were doing this against me. The Cav's were playing way too fast. The Cav's don't play fast but they do shoot a lot of threes. Something is wrong with this.

I know I am not the only one experiencing this.

I think I agree with what you're saying in bold (above). I played the Nuggets with OKC and (although in overtime), both teams shot 53% odd and it was 130-125. I had 34 with Westbrook and 31 with Oladipo. That MIGHT happen once or twice this upcoming season. On top of that, Kanter chipped in with a lazy 25 and 17..... but to your point, I will try a few more games (same matchup) and see how it plays out. Amount of shot attempts (for both teams, total) will be telling about if the pace is too fast.

I also feel like I'm being PUNISHED in transition with 3s and then lazy lapses which are allowing layups etc. Part of me accepts that will happen but I feel like it's happening a little too often and in kicks the helpless feeling....

For the record, we're all playing with ACE on right haha (I'd anticipate this would have a big bearing on the CPUs success at being open/scoring etc.)?

I've played other games and had big success with the key players. Definitely need to keep playing and providing feedback though.

Anyone feel like a deep dive by OG on defense may assist? Maybe we're not grasping some of the things at our disposal..... lots of new goodies in there....

[sirio994]

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I'm having good results with

40/45
40/45
45/48
45/47

[MarkWilliam]

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I just watched AI vs AI (Superstar) OKC at Nuggets.

OKC won 134-111 which I think is a bit high..... OKC shot 66% from the field.

Mudiay drained 8 x 3s which I also think is a bit high......

Side note: The team stats screen no longer has points which I think was a silly thing to remove. Hard to know the qtr by qtr breakdown (in terms of points) unless you do the FG and FT maths.

[stillfeelme]

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I think I agree with what you're saying in bold (above). I played the Nuggets with OKC and (although in overtime), both teams shot 53% odd and it was 130-125. I had 34 with Westbrook and 31 with Oladipo. That MIGHT happen once or twice this upcoming season. On top of that, Kanter chipped in with a lazy 25 and 17..... but to your point, I will try a few more games (same matchup) and see how it plays out. Amount of shot attempts (for both teams, total) will be telling about if the pace is too fast.

I also feel like I'm being PUNISHED in transition with 3s and then lazy lapses which are allowing layups etc. Part of me accepts that will happen but I feel like it's happening a little too often and in kicks the helpless feeling....

For the record, we're all playing with ACE on right haha (I'd anticipate this would have a big bearing on the CPUs success at being open/scoring etc.)?

I've played other games and had big success with the key players. Definitely need to keep playing and providing feedback though.

Anyone feel like a deep dive by OG on defense may assist? Maybe we're not grasping some of the things at our disposal..... lots of new goodies in there....

I am playing in auto for ACE. For certain teams the pace is just way off too fast.

If I could make a list of things to attack for gameplay fixes

1. FG% jumpers, 3's, inside shots need to be reduced some
2. Tempo being too fast for teams that don't play fast and shooting 3's in transition.
3. Floaty passing
4. 3 quarter length passing on made baskets by CPU that is minor but shouldn't occur as often.

[ezsmilez]

Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

I am playing in auto for ACE. For certain teams the pace is just way off too fast.



If I could make a list of things to attack for gameplay fixes



1. FG% jumpers, 3's, inside shots need to be reduced some

2. Tempo being too fast for teams that don't play fast and shooting 3's in transition.

3. Floaty passing

4. 3 quarter length passing on made baskets by CPU that is minor but shouldn't occur as often.

Couldn't u just adjust the sliders for the first one since I think you're talking about offline?


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[RNS1hunna]

Re: No simulation sliders this year. Out the box is default.

I am playing in auto for ACE. For certain teams the pace is just way off too fast.



If I could make a list of things to attack for gameplay fixes



1. FG% jumpers, 3's, inside shots need to be reduced some

2. Tempo being too fast for teams that don't play fast and shooting 3's in transition.

3. Floaty passing

4. 3 quarter length passing on made baskets by CPU that is minor but shouldn't occur as often.

-I agree the overall pace of the game is too fast needs to be slowed down
-fg% overall especially on contested shots need to be dramatically tuned down
-overhead passing needs to be sped up some
-there is a moving screen bug in the game where its like you get stuck in a screen animation while the offensive player runs down the court
- defensive breakdowns on made baskets similar to 2k16
-CPU seeks out 3 pointers a too much



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[knich]

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I think that the fouls on HOF are a bit to extreme... especially in the paint blocking shots... if u touch the person it is a whistle. If the foul sliders can be toned down that would be awesome


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Interesting...I can't seem to get enough fouls (NBA averages) with all foul sliders maxed. I'm playing a hybrid of pro and all-star. So my sliders are now custom. Curious if creating custom changes how fouls are called regardless of how high you set them. I hope that is not the case.