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  • raiderphantom
    MVP
    • Jul 2012
    • 1537

    #76
    Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

    Last year I thought layup % was a bit low, but this year definitely not. I've seen too many And 1's so fouls at the rim don't need raising either imo. Shots at the rim are supposed to be a higher % so I'm not really complaining. Getting good position as a big felt worthless last year in the post.
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    • BKJ7
      Rookie
      • Apr 2015
      • 27

      #77
      Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

      My biggest gripe is when I go for a dunk and bump someone or something and it changes to a layup. I have no time to make the adjustment for a layup. Very late layup release every single time the dunk doesn't happen. Talk about frustrating...

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      • 2_headedmonster
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 2251

        #78
        Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

        Originally posted by Saro1
        I miss every layup with Westbrook, c'mon 2K......
        Pretty realistic

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #79
          Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

          Mike, for the love of everything in the Basketball Heavens, please do not cave in and raise the %'s again.

          Please do not, sir.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • downsouth
            Banned
            • Dec 2013
            • 323

            #80
            Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

            For all the smart *** knowitalls out there.. if you need to green time the layup to make one if there is someone within 5 feet... then tell me what the point of a high layup rating is.

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            • Graphik
              Pr*s*n*r#70460649
              • Oct 2002
              • 10582

              #81
              Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
              Mike, for the love of everything in the Basketball Heavens, please do not cave in and raise the %'s again.

              Please do not, sir.


              I concur. Folks don't know how to play the game IMO. I don't even pay much attention to the lay up meter. I've come to the conclusion that it barely changes anything anyway. I hit them even if its half full, all the way full or even 1/4 full. The ratings still seem to matter more than the meter. If I miss, its usually because the lay up was contested. It's the same as last year.
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              • downsouth
                Banned
                • Dec 2013
                • 323

                #82
                Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

                Originally posted by Graphik
                I concur. Folks don't know how to play the game IMO. I don't even pay much attention to the lay up meter. I've come to the conclusion that it barely changes anything anyway. I hit them even if its half full, all the way full or even 1/4 full. The ratings still seem to matter more than the meter. If I miss, its usually because the lay up was contested. It's the same as last year.
                Right since we dont know how to play the game why dont you explain the point of the layup rating if you can only make green ones or can only make uncontested layups. Any 3rd grader can make UNCONTESTED layups. Its literally the MOST basic basketball skill after dribbling.

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #83
                  Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

                  How come folks can't make videos if it's as bad as some in here are making it seem? Ain't nobody asking for a 3 hour documentary but at least show something to back up YOUR personal claims.

                  It's a lot better than just saying "Man, that **** is broken. Why ya'll got these dumb*** ratings in if I can't make wide open layups" since people can just see what you're talking about.

                  It's 2016 and everybody can record video on a phone(I bet you can record a 30 second video of you acting a fool for the Gram though, lol)so it's no excuse to not have one, lol.
                  #RespectTheCulture

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                  • Graphik
                    Pr*s*n*r#70460649
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 10582

                    #84
                    Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

                    Originally posted by downsouth
                    Right since we dont know how to play the game why dont you explain the point of the layup rating if you can only make green ones.


                    I don't need the meter to be green to make a layup. In fact, I can't even recall holding the stick till its green to make a layup. I just play the game the same way I've always played it. I can still make contact layups, open layups, reverses, whatever. I think people are focusing too much on the meter as every layup seems to have its own release point. Some are off cause the animation doesn't comply with the amount of time you have to reach a green release. So if you're holding the stick down in hopes of getting a green release, I think the animation is playing out to long and it cause people to miss. Not 100% sure but from "MY" experience, I pay absolutely no attention to the meter. None whatsoever. I always happen to notice it after the fact cause its to much going on in the paint as it is.
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                    • downsouth
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 323

                      #85
                      Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      How come folks can't make videos if it's as bad as some in here are making it seem? Ain't nobody asking for a 3 hour documentary but at least show something to back up YOUR personal claims.

                      It's a lot better than just saying "Man, that **** is broken. Why ya'll got these dumb*** ratings in if I can't make wide open layups" since people can just see what you're talking about.

                      It's 2016 and everybody can record video on a phone(I bet you can record a 30 second video of you acting a fool for the Gram though, lol)so it's no excuse to not have one, lol.
                      I dont make videos because i post at work and grinding when im at home. I dont do instagram videos either lol.

                      My point is if layup ratings is to help you on uncontested layups and you will shoot 3 of 12 on contested layups then the whole system is flawed because elementary school kids can make uncontested layups.

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                      • alabamarob
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3352

                        #86
                        Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

                        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                        How come folks can't make videos if it's as bad as some in here are making it seem? Ain't nobody asking for a 3 hour documentary but at least show something to back up YOUR personal claims.

                        It's a lot better than just saying "Man, that **** is broken. Why ya'll got these dumb*** ratings in if I can't make wide open layups" since people can just see what you're talking about.

                        It's 2016 and everybody can record video on a phone(I bet you can record a 30 second video of you acting a fool for the Gram though, lol)so it's no excuse to not have one, lol.
                        That video i posted is of 2 games, and there are tons of contested layups dropping. It is not a legitimate an issue imo. People are just used to getting free points., and dont like the change. I hope they dont make layups easier. I speak from a user v user hof perspective.
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                        • hanzsomehanz
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 3275

                          #87
                          Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

                          Originally posted by DC
                          Define WIDE OPEN

                          Also, do you have video evidence of it?
                          I'm using their claims; not my own

                          I'm not attempting to build a case for blown wide open layups happening too often.. you'll have to re-read the context of my response lol

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                          how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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                          • hanzsomehanz
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 3275

                            #88
                            Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

                            Originally posted by downsouth
                            You can make all the smart alec comments to the OP you want to so you can feel superior/cool, but there's no reason a guy with 90 layups should have twice the difficulty in making contested layups as someone with 90 3 pointer has making contested 3's.

                            You can talk about realism all you want and then turn around in the same game and have kawhai in your face and drain 3pt shot after 3 pt shot.
                            Are these not isolated scenarios based on individual experience and user competence? 'It's not like every sharpshooter and every driver is having the same success.

                            I'm using a Playmaker build and I'm getting greens on layups in traffic. My success doesn't demonstrate or cover for the other hundreds of thousands or millions in the community however. I can't paint everyone with my fails and my success and be naive enough to be convinced they are all having the same experience as me in accordance.

                            Come on now.. a case becomes a case with justifiable evidence.. proof and statistical validity would go a long ways opposed to simply holding an individual experience on a while community.

                            We are better of sharing and asking for best practise than simply throwing our hands in the air in digression that it's a lost cause until patched or fixed "outside of your hands".

                            My tip is to practicse attempting your layups, especially the wide-open ones, using only left stick and the face button for shoot... also, be careful with contact if you're struggling in that area..

                            I get the plea regarding slashers should have a larger window for success against contact and i general, I get that.. go back to the reality though that there are others succeeding in contact and in the open who are not slashers which should eliminate the guts of the sliders as being the cause and effect here


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                            Last edited by hanzsomehanz; 09-23-2016, 12:36 PM.
                            how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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                            • hanzsomehanz
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 3275

                              #89
                              Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

                              Originally posted by downsouth
                              For all the smart *** knowitalls out there.. if you need to green time the layup to make one if there is someone within 5 feet... then tell me what the point of a high layup rating is.
                              Here are a couple clips from college career on All-star. The MP is a 55 overall 6ft6 Shot Creator. Layup package is Guard

                              First video here, I use left stick to trigger this layup. This is an animation I practice with so I'm familiar with how to deliberately trigger it and time it.

                              *http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/mistahanz/video/21795252

                              Second video here, I use left stick but get a similar animation but again this is one I'm familiar with. I'm deliberately triggering these animations.

                              *http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/mistahanz/video/21795395

                              *http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/mistahanz/video/21795395/imgur

                              I'm using the stick in the direction I want to trigger specific animation - from there it is a matter of timing and dice roll chances for success. I would be ok If I failed to deliver on these attempts but I wouldn't be discouraged. I would be surprised but not discouraged and I would check with myself regarding how much force I used on the stick.

                              Best regards

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                              • infemous
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 1568

                                #90
                                Re: If I Miss ONE MORE Layup......

                                Originally posted by hanzsomehanz
                                Are these not isolated scenarios based on individual experience and user competence? 'It's not like every sharpshooter and every driver is having the same success.

                                I'm using a Playmaker build and I'm getting greens on layups in traffic. My success doesn't demonstrate or cover for the other hundreds of thousands or millions in the community however. I can't paint everyone with my fails and my success and be naive enough to be convinced they are all having the same experience as me in accordance.

                                Come on now.. a case becomes a case with justifiable evidence.. proof and statistical validity would go a long ways opposed to simply holding an individual experience on a while community.

                                We are better of sharing and asking for best practise than simply throwing our hands in the air in digression that it's a lost cause until patched or fixed "outside of your hands".

                                My tip is to practicse attempting your layups, especially the wide-open ones, using only left stick and the face button for shoot... also, be careful with contact if you're struggling in that area..

                                I get the plea regarding slashers should have a larger window for success against contact and i general, I get that.. go back to the reality though that there are others succeeding in contact and in the open who are not slashers which should eliminate the guts of the sliders as being the cause and effect here


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                                May be a dumb question but how do you determine a shot becoming a layup vs a jumper or dunk?

                                This is my biggest issue.

                                I thought layups were just holding down shoot without sprinting, and dunking was holding down sprint, while in the paint, and all jumpers were from outside the paint?

                                Yet now I'm getting all these weird mess ups where what I want to be a dunk is a (failed) layup or jumper.

                                I've had to move to strictly shoot button now because if the attempt with the right stick ever becomes a pull up jumper its guaranteed miss every time.

                                Sometimes, I can even hold down shoot after doing a shot fake after an O Rebound and my guy just stands there.
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