The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

[TripleJay_X]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

it is indeed bit easy -> i'm OVR 72, driving&finishing plus ballhandling&passing as 2nd archetype. i make 20-30 points a game, sometimes even more. 80-90% of my baskets are pure 'driveby's' or the fouls from it.... difficulty, all-star.

i think you get too often to the charity stripe. that's where atleast i see the main issue so far.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

There's plenty of games on a yearly cycle. And since that is your argument, 2k has been doing this for 18 years now.
I would think that they could fix things like controller settings not staying. Or server issues that have literally been there since day 1.
Or how about the game crashing as you're walking down the street.

There's a ton of things, that if they had game testing, they could have found and fixed.

Stop making assumptions and quit making excuses for 2k.

Name any Triple A title that has as many issues as NBA 2k. You can't, but you'll find a way to assume that I don't play the game right and make excuses for 2k to keep putting out unfinished games.

Grow up!



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Educate yourself and get back at me. Feel free to click on any and however many videos you feel like watching.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=games+broken+on+release

[The 24th Letter]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

OK guys, let's get back to the topic please...

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[awg811]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

Educate yourself and get back at me. Feel free to click on any and however many videos you feel like watching.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ken+on+release

I tried but the links not working.

But since you say that I shouldn't buy it when 2k tells me that it's ready, when exactly should I buy it?

Should I buy it 10 or 11 months after its initial release once they've released patch 12?

If you dropped you car off to get the brakes fixed, paid up front, and waited for them to call you when it was ready. Would it be acceptable to arrive and find out the that tires aren't on and won't be installed for a month or two? And then once they are installed would it be acceptable to find out that the brakes don't actually work and you'll have to wait another month or two for them to attempt to fix those?


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[awg811]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

OK guys, let's get back to the topic please...

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I'm still on topic, talking about the exact topic as the OP.

Some people in this forum are only here to refute anything anyone else has to say because they think they are superior and have more knowledge than anyone else.

If they believe that selling an unfinished and obviously broken game is OK, do they have the right to bash people that expect to get what they paid for and what they were told they could expect?

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[The 24th Letter]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

I'm still on topic, talking about the exact topic as the OP.

Some people in this forum are only here to refute anything anyone else has to say because they think they are superior and have more knowledge than anyone else.

If they believe that selling an unfinished and obviously broken game is OK, do they have the right to bash people that expect to get what they paid for and what they were told they could expect?

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What does your last couple of posts have to do with the ease of driving to the basket?

and I wasn't just talking to you, I meant everyone involved in the back and forth....if you want to continue to discuss your stance on 2k, there are plenty of threads to do so in...but lets keep this one on subject ...

[awg811]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

What does your last couple of posts have to do with the ease of driving to the basket?

and I wasn't just talking to you, I meant everyone involved in the back and forth....if you want to continue to discuss your stance on 2k, there are plenty of threads to do so in.

Is the topic not about broken and flawed mechanics?

And I understand that you weren't speaking solely to me, as I wasn't speaking solely to you.

I know that your job here is not easy, so please don't take my comments as disrespect. I appreciate what you do here.

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[ksuttonjr76]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

I tried but the links not working.

But since you say that I shouldn't buy it when 2k tells me that it's ready, when exactly should I buy it?

Should I buy it 10 or 11 months after its initial release once they've released patch 12?

If you dropped you car off to get the brakes fixed, paid up front, and waited for them to call you when it was ready. Would it be acceptable to arrive and find out the that tires aren't on and won't be installed for a month or two? And then once they are installed would it be acceptable to find out that the brakes don't actually work and you'll I've to wait another month or two for them to attempt to fix those?


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Video games and broken cars is comparing apples to oranges.

Real talk. You know most games have bugs/glitches on release days. The term "Day 1 Patch" is now synonymous with nearly all video game releases. Hence, people need to stop acting like bugs/glitches on release day is a NBA 2K problem, when it's really a videogame problem. Historically, 2K Sports normally have the "major" stuff patched within the second month. Based on the history of past patches, I say wait 2 months or even catch it on sale for Black Friday.

However, Mike Wang made a post (not sure which thread) that they will be approaching patches differently this year. Instead of making a bunch of large patches, they're going to patch the game with smaller ones. To my knowledge, this might be an industry first. Most games I know create multiple "large" patches. Personally, I think that's a better idea, because they can address individual problems quicker and with more focus without the risk of "ruining" the game for the rest of the year. Thus far, the patches have been addressing issues without creating new ones from what I read of the feedback thus far. Currently, the patches have mostly been about MyCareer and online stability.

[awg811]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

Video games and broken cars is comparing apples to oranges.

Real talk. You know most games have bugs/glitches on release days. The term "Day 1 Patch" is now synonymous with nearly all video game releases. Hence, people need to stop acting like bugs/glitches on release day is a NBA 2K problem, when it's really a videogame problem. Historically, 2K Sports normally have the "major" stuff patched within the second month. Based on the history of past patches, I say wait 2 months or even catch it on sale for Black Friday.

However, Mike Wang made a post (not sure which thread) that they will be approaching patches differently this year. Instead of making a bunch of large patches, they're going to patch the game with smaller ones. To my knowledge, this might be an industry first. Most games I know create multiple "large" patches. Personally, I think that's better idea, because they can address individual quicker and with more focus without the risk of "ruining" the game for the rest of the year. Thus far, the patches have been addressing issues without creating new ones from what I read of the feedback thus far. Currently, the patches have mostly been about MyCareer and online stability.

Getting what you've paid for regardless of the product is what I'm speaking about, whether it be video games or cars.

And, yes, I agree day 1 patches are pretty much a norm because they find flaws in game testing. But, show me another yearly released Triple A title that has 12 patches a year and still doesn't get it right.
We now have 4 patches in the first month , at least on Xbox, and a 5th is on its way soon.

I really don't want to argue with you, I have enjoyed, liked, and agreed with your posts in my many years on this forum and I don't want us to have a dislike for each other because we disagree.

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[The 24th Letter]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

Is the topic not about broken and flawed mechanics?

And I understand that you weren't speaking solely to me, as I wasn't speaking solely to you.

I know that your job here is not easy, so please don't take my comments as disrespect. I appreciate what you do here.

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It's all good man...thanks.

Topics like this, where we are discussing a particular mechanic, are vital in making changes toward the better. There are good points about this on both.sides...I just want to make sure its more about that thsn going at each other.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

Getting what you've paid for regardless of the product is what I'm speaking about, whether it be video games or cars.

And, yes, I agree day 1 patches are pretty much a norm because they find flaws in game testing. But, show me another yearly released Triple A title that has 12 patches a year and still doesn't get it right.
We now have 4 patches in the first month , at least on Xbox, and a 5th is on its way soon.

I really don't want to argue with you, I have enjoyed, liked, and agreed with your posts in my many years on this forum and I don't want us to have a dislike for each other because we disagree.

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Fair enough. Hug it out, lol.

It's mostly my fault. I've been so damn passionate about this game, and I keep dreading that it's going to be ruined by one too many patches. Some stuff I understand to be purely technical problems and requires a patch. Other stuff, I'm like..."Man, that's mostly user error or misunderstanding".

As a side note, I'm going to record one of my games to address "newest" cheese. I think the OP had one thing in mind, but the tactic evolved into something else. However, it's still pretty much the same topic.

From what I'm experiencing, people are calling the 5-out or some other play where player "flatten-out" along the baseline. I'm not a plays guru, so someone might recognize what I'm talking about. From there, the ball handler begins their zig-zag motions. I normally drop down to the top of the key, but obviously you can't do that with all players since you'd be giving up the 3. However, the danger is in that first damn step. I swear some players have a very unnatural first step. Iverson and Kobe, I can live with. James Johnson from Miami? That's too much for me.

Since the I play the angles, I can cut them off pretty good, but then comes the second danger. In certain animations, the offensive player literally pushes the defender back (which I think is an offensive foul), and the defender is now off-balance. Personally, I icon switch to a different defender and let the AI "auto-correct" the positioning. I bring the second defender for the soft double team, then I icon switch again to a different defender to possibly intercept any kick out passes. Depending on my opponent, I'll switch back to the first defender or play free safety for a few seconds.

The success is not in stopping the play every time. The success is in making it hard for them over a course of 4 quarters. From my experience, people give up on the exploit before the half, because it's becoming increasingly harder to do with each passing quarter. Then comes the fun part...building the lead. Most of these knuckleheads are NOTHING without their exploit. I usually end up building a double digit lead, and they eventually quit.

[awg811]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

Fair enough. Hug it out, lol.

It's mostly my fault. I've been so damn passionate about this game, and I keep dreading that it's going to be ruined by one too many patches. Some stuff I understand to be purely technical problems and requires a patch. Other stuff, I'm like..."Man, that's mostly user error or misunderstanding".

As a side note, I'm going to record one of my games to address "newest" cheese. I think the OP had one thing in mind, but the tactic evolved into something else. However, it's still pretty much the same topic.

From what I'm experiencing, people are calling the 5-out or some other play where player "flatten-out" along the baseline. I'm not a plays guru, so someone might recognize what I'm talking about. From there, the ball handler begins their zig-zag motions. I normally drop down to the top of the key, but obviously you can't do that with all players since you'd be giving up the 3. However, the danger is in that first damn step. I swear some players have a very unnatural first step. Iverson and Kobe, I can live with. James Johnson from Miami? That's too much for me.

Since the I play the angles, I can cut them off pretty good, but then comes the second danger. In certain animations, the offensive player literally pushes the defender back (which I think is an offensive foul), and the defender is now off-balance. Personally, I icon switch to a different defender and let the AI "auto-correct" the positioning. I bring the second defender for the double team, then I icon switch again to a different defender to possibly intercept any kick out passes. Depending on my opponent, I'll switch back to the first defender or play free safety.

The success is not in stopping the play every time. The success is in making it hard for them over a course of 4 quarters. From my experience, people give up on the exploit before the half, because it's becoming increasingly harder to do with each passing quarter. Then comes the fun part...building the lead. Most of these knuckleheads are NOTHING without their exploit. I usually end up building a double digit lead, and they eventually quit.

I was just about to post that my passion for this game might make it seems as though I dislike it and nothing could be further from the truth.
I feel like this one could be the best yet.

I buy 1 game ever year, I pay full price for only 1 game, and I'd buy 2 every year and pay full price for it as well if 2k could make a football game.

My opinion is that 2k is quite possibly the best game developer out, especially for sports gaming.

So if it ever seems that I'm bad mouthing the devs, that is not my intention. I only want the best for this game and a few fixes will make this game the goat!

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[sudanmalkovich]

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driving to the basket HOF.

you don't need clipings actually. you just..... go.

[ksuttonjr76]

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driving to the basket HOF.

you don't need clipings actually. you just..... go.

Yup, that's the move. However, this video is also a perfect example of why you shouldn't be hugged up on the ball handler. Like IRL if you're hugged on the ball handler (especially if they hadn't taken their first dribble), then you're going to be in poor defensive position to defend the drive.

Hence the reason why I said the first thing that I do is drop back, so I can defend the angles.

[TripleJay_X]

Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

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driving to the basket HOF.

you don't need clipings actually. you just..... go.

yeah, looks almost the same what i always do, but i think i dribble more at the end of the season i'm probably as good as LeBron and next season i'm the new LeBron.... the new BronJordan with OVR 75-80

Who needs VC anyway if you can drive that easy to the basket