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  • extremeskins04
    That's top class!
    • Aug 2010
    • 3868

    #16
    Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

    Originally posted by BA2929
    No, that's not my advice at all.


    My advice is to practice how to play defense this year, what works and what doesn't, because it has changed from 2k18 and perhaps that will help you.


    Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're being toxic. I mean, what am I supposed to say here besides an attempt to help or just flat out agreeing (which accomplishes nothing)? Just say "that sucks man" and move on?





    I'll make sure to try to not give advice on how to maybe make the problem you're having go away next time you ask for it. Have fun playing.
    But you didn't even listen to what the original complaint was. I never said anything was too hard. I'm doing fine on the difficulty I'm playing on.

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    • extremeskins04
      That's top class!
      • Aug 2010
      • 3868

      #17
      Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

      Originally posted by TheWalkingCash
      When the CPU player shoots a 3, and I have an easy boxout in the paint and I'm in perfect position for a rebound, it doesn't matter how much the shot is contested. It goes in. Every. Single. Time.
      Finally. Someone gets what I was talking about.

      See the problem here is that people are so afraid of 2k doing a patch and ruining the gameplay, that ANY kind of complaint gets shot down. We aren't complaining about difficulty. The game defense and difficulty is great.

      It's the scriptedness of the MyCareer shooting. Just because I may get screened and leave a 3pt shooter open for a split second doesn't mean every single one of those shots should go in, but they do. If the CPU ends up doing a switch on me and puts my 6'3 shortness up against Hassan Whiteside who is probably a top 5 center in the league, if he completely destroys me, I shouldn't get hit for a teammate grade. It's a serious mismatch and not exactly my fault.

      The mode needs work is what I'm saying. Less dev time with the story, more dev time with the mechanics.
      Last edited by extremeskins04; 09-11-2018, 06:29 PM.

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      • BA2929
        The Designated Hitter
        • Jul 2008
        • 3342

        #18
        Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

        Originally posted by extremeskins04
        But you didn't even listen to what the original complaint was. I never said anything was too hard. I'm doing fine on the difficulty I'm playing on.



        I did read it. You complained the AI didn't miss any shots. I suggested maybe you should practice defense because it's different this year and perhaps that's why they're not missing. I also suggested that maybe you should drop down the difficulty to see if that helps your issue.



        I'm not sure what else you want me (or anyone) to do here. If you're getting B+ to A+ grades every single game there isn't much of an issue unless you just want it to be super easy so you can get A+ grades every game without much effort. If that's the case then do what I suggested: Drop the difficulty down.


        Maybe my original post came off as snarky. I apologize if you read it that way. I was actually trying to give you some help.
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        • jfsolo
          Live Action, please?
          • May 2003
          • 12965

          #19
          Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

          Some people are missing the point, but that happens here all the time, nothing can be done about that. I agree with the OP, yes you can win games, get great teammate grades, and put up numbers, but the gameplay is designed in a way that certain outcomes will be produced as a direct result of what the User does or doesn't do, not organically, but in a very contrived fashion. For me its design ultimately renders the mode not fun to play every year.
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          • extremeskins04
            That's top class!
            • Aug 2010
            • 3868

            #20
            Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

            Originally posted by jfsolo
            Some people are missing the point, but that happens here all the time, nothing can be done about that. I agree with the OP, yes you can win games, get great teammate grades, and put up numbers, but the gameplay is designed in a way that certain outcomes will be produced as a direct result of what the User does or doesn't do, not organically, but in a very contrived fashion. For me its design ultimately renders the mode not fun to play every year.
            Yes yes yes! Perfectly stated! That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.



            Originally posted by BA2929
            I did read it. You complained the AI didn't miss any shots. I suggested maybe you should practice defense because it's different this year and perhaps that's why they're not missing. I also suggested that maybe you should drop down the difficulty to see if that helps your issue.
            Sorry BA, no disrespect but you're still not getting it dude. It's not about practicing defense. I play defense very well. It does not matter how good my defense is, I'm not going to be able to bounce around a 7 foot 270lb center at the drop of a dime me being 6'3 and 170'ish lbs. Not in time for that 3pt shooter to let one loose. It's just not happening. Those shots will go in no matter what in MyCareer mode, and then you get dinged for the teammate grade.

            Basically it's something that is out of my control is what I mean. Sure I can do it against players that aren't brick walls, but serious mismatches it's not happening. I could be on Rookie difficulty and the outcome is the same.
            Last edited by extremeskins04; 09-11-2018, 06:39 PM.

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            • GisherJohn24
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 4609

              #21
              Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

              Originally posted by extremeskins04
              But gameplay is as well. I have played about 30 games or so with Minnesota and any time, ANY ..TIME...that I make a wrong defensive move or get even just a LITTLE out of position, and the CPU shoots, it's AUTOMATIC make.

              Why..

              This doesn't happen in MyLeague, why MyCareer. I understand they want to make you pay for making a mistake, but no shot should be an automatic and I'm telling you, these shots don't miss...ever.

              Does the AI miss shots? Sure. But not when you make a mistake on defense.

              Also, on many plays if I'm shooting a FT and whether I make or miss it, my opposition guy is all the way down on the other side of the court and unless I grow wings, I'll never get there in time.

              Then, the long pass bomb by the CPU...my opposition guy shoots, makes it, and I take the negative hit on the teammate grade for it.

              Absolute bs. I can't move fast enough to catch him...cause I barely have finished my shot at the FT line! The **** is about as unfair as it comes.

              If I check the "Scouting Report" on my opposition guy and he's a 3 pt shooter, then I'm going to go OVER on the screens, and when I do, he still shoots, automatic make and I get dinged for it. If he's a driver type player, I go under...he still shoots the 3 even if he's not that good...I get dinged for it.

              I love the gameplay in MyLeague, but MyCareer is horrible with how you get dinged for the teammate grades.
              It's def scripted. My first NBA game the Spurs did not miss a single shot in the first half.

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              • Thrustie
                Pro
                • Sep 2016
                • 764

                #22
                Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                I get what you’re saying about open shots going in a lot but I don’t think it’s specifically scripted against the user. I had Kawhi Leonard light up my team for 57 points but it wasn’t me covering him. Seemed like every open shot he got was a make. Steph Curry just went off 9/10 from 3 in the first half in my last game. Most of them were nice set plays where he got open looks but that’s still crazy. Then again, I have Lebron on my team and he’s shooting over 50% from 3 after 35 games which is crazy high. Again, a lot of them are open looks. This is on Superstar.

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                • yungmeaks
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 393

                  #23
                  Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                  I know exactly what you're talking about, OP. It's ridiculous at times. Even on All-Star which is what I play at too. There are some shots that just shouldn't be going in or are automatic, but they are every time in MyCareer. These CPUs are something else

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                  • extremeskins04
                    That's top class!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 3868

                    #24
                    Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                    You know how sometimes when you get screened (picked), and your opposition player you're supposed to guard sprints on the opposite side of the arc. I wish I could replay it, but I run around the screen and sprint my arse off to get over to where he was.

                    The game actually gave me a ding for leaving my assignment, LOL. It was literally a second to get around the screen and sprint over there.
                    Last edited by extremeskins04; 09-11-2018, 08:57 PM.

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                    • Taer
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1432

                      #25
                      Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                      Originally posted by extremeskins04
                      You know how sometimes when you get screened (picked), and your opposition player you're supposed to guard sprints on the opposite side of the arc. I wish I could replay it, but I run around the screen and sprint my arse off to get over to where he was.

                      The game actually gave me a ding for leaving my assignment, LOL. It was literally a second to get around the screen and sprint over there.

                      I understand what you refer to but I don't really let this bother me as much as it bothers you.


                      There will be times that because the MyPlayer is not "officially" contesting a shot properly, the AI punishes me and that is ok because there are things that happen in the opposite manner as well - things that I "exploit" on purpose or on accident.



                      One example: a flaw exists in 2k19 that I can guaranty a foul being called on the opposition in such a manner that it did not ever occur in this mode before. (being vague to discourage cheese)


                      More and more we have Scott OG and Da Czar helping on this mode to get this to be as sim as possible and to encourage the "best practices" of basketball - I think Scott OG mentioned this on his stream about helping specifically this year.


                      This is something I've been advocating for since 2k10 but there is another argument that says this mode is a trainer for online and coop modes so it shouldn't be full on sim.


                      I really wish MyCareer was separated from the online modes - so that we can focus on the sim side of the AI performance and we can teach the masses the beauty of the game instead of finding the newest cheese.



                      I don't expect this mode to be patched for this - the game producer focuses on his "story" bona-fides and we see this every year since NextGen - a focus on "being the ultimate basketball story"


                      Personally I feel that the Chinese and GLeague experiences this year reinforces the original concept of MyCareer and it would be much better to go back to the roots even more than they have this year.


                      I appreciate that Chris Smooth popularized this mode on YouTube but I much prefer his earlier vids where he made his own story and feel the devs are willfully blind and enamored with the idea of this forced story-telling they do.


                      MyCareer should be about my career not AI's career, DJ's career, Freak's career and all the rest. I understand the shiny aspect of being enamored with the characters you make but seeing Ellis Jackson each year in various "cameos" just reminds me of how many times the devs keep trying the same thing and keep expecting a different result from it.

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                      • Vic_Clancy
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 223

                        #26
                        Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                        Had no problem getting A+ in 2k18 in HOF. Just getting into the main mycareer in 2k19, so can't call it there yet.

                        Perhaps it's playstyle I was a pass-first point guard, averaging 12 assists a game, and shooting about 55%
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                        • extremeskins04
                          That's top class!
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3868

                          #27
                          Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                          Originally posted by Vic_Clancy
                          Had no problem getting A+ in 2k18 in HOF. Just getting into the main mycareer in 2k19, so can't call it there yet.

                          Perhaps it's playstyle I was a pass-first point guard, averaging 12 assists a game, and shooting about 55%
                          Same here. I'm a pass-first PG getting 9-10 assists a game, and 18 ppg, currently shooting 57% and my 3P% is 61%. All-Star difficulty. I might have to up it to Superstar soon. Normally I get either A, A- or B+ if I'm having an off game. 40 games into 1st season with the Timberwolves.

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                          • TheFinalEvent97
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 1519

                            #28
                            Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                            I'm playing on HOF Difficulty on the Lakers, from what I've seen the problem with picks getting players open at the 3 is I haven't seen the man getting screened attempt to 'Go Over' the screen, the vast majority of the time its 'Go Under' with some 'Switch' or 'Double' occasionally. 'Go Under' in the NBA is generally done against poor shooters not the vast majority of the time.
                            Last edited by TheFinalEvent97; 09-11-2018, 10:48 PM.

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                            • Lakerplayer8
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 85

                              #29
                              Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                              Have to admit that whenever I am in perfect position for an offensive rebound because I know my AI teammate is about to take a moving shot on the fast break (which usually misses) always goes in if I have perfect position to get the offensive rebound. On defense it also seems like the CPU will never miss if I am in great position for the defensive rebound however If I'm not in position the computer will miss and get the offensive rebound lol

                              I know your issue wasn't specifically difficulty but I will say I had to take a piece of humble pie this year. I always played on Superstar in my career last year in 2k18. However this year I was getting blown out on superstar losing by at least 45-50 points. I lowered it to All-Star and Steph Curry almost had a triple Double on me 50 points, 9 steals and had double digit assists.

                              I lowered it to PRO and I am currently 12-8. I started off 3-8 on PRO difficulty and I am slowly figuring the computer out. I have been having close games and even some 20 point blowouts. Just when I think I have it figured out winning 9 in a row I get blown out by the Lakers on PRO!!! Maybe its because that Harris guy is on the lakers? Idk but I totally agree with the games be scripted. Some games it just feels like We are supposed to lose but Its a game so...I guess thats just how its going to feel. In real life teams maybe a little careless and have bad pass turnovers , bad shooting nights from the field and freethrow line but in 2K a bad night consists of computer players making impossible shots, warping out of no where to steal passes and dominating the offensive boards with cheesy animations when my guy or teammate was clearly there.

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                              • Aricin
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 43

                                #30
                                Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                                Game play is def better, but one thing that is sticking out to me if you play good defense and force a end of shot clock shot and the shooter is defended by AI team the will make the shot every single time.

                                Jacking 3s from deep against double team as a center. no problem as long as its with the shot clock running down.

                                That is my biggest pet pieve with 2K19 my career at this point.

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