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  • extremeskins04
    That's top class!
    • Aug 2010
    • 3868

    #31
    Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

    Yea I hear you guys. I'm playing as a PG on the Timberwolves and I just made starter, and we're power ranked 4th in the NBA currently just under the Lakers.

    I'm currently leading the rookies in PPG, APG, FT%, FG% and 3P% stats.

    I'm currently leading ALL players in 3P% stat.

    Playing on All-Star, it's too easy at the moment and I'm about to up it to Superstar so it's not the difficulty right now.

    I just get annoyed when on defense if I get screened, and can't get immediately in front of the shooter, it's an automatic 3. We're currently about 50 games into the season, and this happens atleast once per game and the opposing shooter has not missed once on those.

    That's all. It's not about the difficulty. I find the game pretty easy, but I just want it to be realistic and those shooters should miss once in a while.

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    • Erithtotl
      Pro
      • Aug 2002
      • 679

      #32
      Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

      People are talking across from each other on this thread. A couple people get it. It's not scripted. Its that shooting percentages are too high for the AI. Period. AI guys hit open shots at an insanely high rate. It's not uncommon to see mildly above average 3 point guys going 6 for 7. It doesn't matter if its a human or AI guarding them.

      Also, the reason that you are in perfect position on makes is that often over the years I've noticed that the AI will 'know' a shot is going in, and not contest for position.

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      • El_Poopador
        MVP
        • Oct 2013
        • 2624

        #33
        Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

        Originally posted by Erithtotl

        Also, the reason that you are in perfect position on makes is that often over the years I've noticed that the AI will 'know' a shot is going in, and not contest for position.
        This. I've noticed this for years and it's always bothered me. If a shot goes up and I don't get sucked into a box out, I know it's going in. But even if I am in position first, the AI can warp me into a box out animation until they grab the board. Sometimes it happens when I'm not even trying to go for the rebound; I'll be trying to get back on defense but I'll be stuck in the box out animation.

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        • MrWrestling3
          MVP
          • May 2015
          • 1146

          #34
          Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

          Originally posted by Erithtotl
          People are talking across from each other on this thread. A couple people get it. It's not scripted. Its that shooting percentages are too high for the AI. Period. AI guys hit open shots at an insanely high rate. It's not uncommon to see mildly above average 3 point guys going 6 for 7. It doesn't matter if its a human or AI guarding them.

          Also, the reason that you are in perfect position on makes is that often over the years I've noticed that the AI will 'know' a shot is going in, and not contest for position.
          I noticed this myself, CPU team mates seem to still rely on the old "I'm in the general area, that's good enough" type of defense that used to work.

          However, with this year being more "hand down man down" when it comes to contesting shots, this system just doesn't work;people will just get buckets right over you .They need to tweak their logic to contest the shots of other CPU players much more actively than they currently do.

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          • extremeskins04
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            • Aug 2010
            • 3868

            #35
            Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

            Originally posted by Erithtotl
            People are talking across from each other on this thread. A couple people get it. It's not scripted. Its that shooting percentages are too high for the AI. Period. AI guys hit open shots at an insanely high rate. It's not uncommon to see mildly above average 3 point guys going 6 for 7. It doesn't matter if its a human or AI guarding them.

            Also, the reason that you are in perfect position on makes is that often over the years I've noticed that the AI will 'know' a shot is going in, and not contest for position.
            I hear you Erithtotl, but I actually turned down both cpu and user shooting success to 30 to tone down the FG%'s which does in fact work, EXCEPT when the AI shoots off the screen, or when the MyPlayer user makes a mistake. Haven't seen the AI miss those yet, but on normal shots they do miss more.

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            • yungmeaks
              Rookie
              • Jun 2012
              • 393

              #36
              Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

              Originally posted by Erithtotl
              People are talking across from each other on this thread. A couple people get it. It's not scripted. Its that shooting percentages are too high for the AI. Period. AI guys hit open shots at an insanely high rate. It's not uncommon to see mildly above average 3 point guys going 6 for 7. It doesn't matter if its a human or AI guarding them.

              Also, the reason that you are in perfect position on makes is that often over the years I've noticed that the AI will 'know' a shot is going in, and not contest for position.
              Nah, I feel like it’s scripted. Based on the fact alone that if the other team doesn’t box out on a jump shot, that means the shot is automatic and 100% going in — it’s heavily scripted. Even if it’s goijg in, I shouldn’t know it is every single time I see the opposite team isn’t boxing out. It just feels way too predictable.

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              • Quentin32
                Pro
                • Sep 2015
                • 546

                #37
                Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

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                • Thrustie
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 764

                  #38
                  Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                  Originally posted by Erithtotl
                  People are talking across from each other on this thread. A couple people get it. It's not scripted. Its that shooting percentages are too high for the AI. Period. AI guys hit open shots at an insanely high rate. It's not uncommon to see mildly above average 3 point guys going 6 for 7. It doesn't matter if its a human or AI guarding them.

                  Also, the reason that you are in perfect position on makes is that often over the years I've noticed that the AI will 'know' a shot is going in, and not contest for position.
                  This is what I’m trying to say. I’m on Superstar and Lebron and Corey Harris on my team are shooting 60%. Lebron is 54% from 3. I played my first game against Steph Curry and he went 15/19 from 3, shattering his own record and it wasn’t me covering him. GS shot 62% that game and 64% from 3. My Lakers shot over 50% on both although we lost. It seems like open shots go in way too much. Contested shots are probably where they should be.

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                  • SonicMage
                    NBA Ratings Wizard
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 3544

                    #39
                    Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                    Originally posted by extremeskins04
                    I hear you Erithtotl, but I actually turned down both cpu and user shooting success to 30 to tone down the FG%'s which does in fact work, EXCEPT when the AI shoots off the screen, or when the MyPlayer user makes a mistake. Haven't seen the AI miss those yet, but on normal shots they do miss more.
                    What difficulty are you playing on? If you're playing on anything higher than All-star, don't. The CPU is intentionally cheating against you by hitting more shots to make it more difficult, Czar made that perfectly clear.
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                    • Retropyro
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 796

                      #40
                      Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                      Originally posted by extremeskins04
                      but I actually turned down both cpu and user shooting success to 30 to tone down the FG%'s
                      Wait, timeout. You're saying you adjusted sliders for MyCareer??
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                      • extremeskins04
                        That's top class!
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 3868

                        #41
                        Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                        Originally posted by SonicMage
                        What difficulty are you playing on? If you're playing on anything higher than All-star, don't. The CPU is intentionally cheating against you by hitting more shots to make it more difficult, Czar made that perfectly clear.
                        Playing on All-Star difficulty with shooting success turned down. But I did all this at the main menu outside of MyCareer mode. There isn't a way to adjust sliders inside the mode itself i don't think.


                        Originally posted by Retropyro
                        Wait, timeout. You're saying you adjusted sliders for MyCareer??
                        Outside of MyCareer before you enter it. There isn't a way to adjust it inside MyCareer unless I missed it.

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                        • SonicMage
                          NBA Ratings Wizard
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 3544

                          #42
                          Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                          Originally posted by extremeskins04
                          Playing on All-Star difficulty with shooting success turned down. But I did all this at the main menu outside of MyCareer mode. There isn't a way to adjust sliders inside the mode itself i don't think.




                          Outside of MyCareer before you enter it. There isn't a way to adjust it inside MyCareer unless I missed it.
                          I don't think you're adjusting the sliders for use in MyCareer. The difficulty *is* a set of sliders. So if you have All-star sliders, and adjust anything, it is no longer "All-star" but rather custom. Unless I'm mistaken, I think you can only use one of the difficulty slider presets for MyCareer.

                          As far as your original issue, respectfully I think you're perhaps just seeing things. The idea that a CPU player would get a shooting percentage bump just because your MyCareer player was the one guarding him sounds really bogus and unnecessary to me.
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                          • extremeskins04
                            That's top class!
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 3868

                            #43
                            Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                            Originally posted by SonicMage
                            As far as your original issue, respectfully I think you're perhaps just seeing things. The idea that a CPU player would get a shooting percentage bump just because your MyCareer player was the one guarding him sounds really bogus and unnecessary to me.
                            I'm not seeing things. If I'm defending as a PG, and the opposing PG (who excels at both driving and 3pt shooting) gets a screen setup by a big man, and I go under, he shoots immediately and I've never seen a shooter miss it. Not on All-Star difficulty yet. I've played 40'ish games now.

                            This goes for also if I make a mistake in my coverage, and the guy I'm supposed to guard ends up getting open, he never misses the 3.

                            In MyLeague? Happens all the time where they miss. Not in MyCareer.

                            I really need to start streaming and broadcasting this so people start believing it.

                            Now if it's just normal play, and the AI shoots...sure they miss. But if I am guarding the man with the ball and I either make a mistake in coverage whether I'm not fast enough or get screened out, that shooter will make his shot 10 out of 10 times.

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                            • SGMRock
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 991

                              #44
                              Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                              @OP so I thought it was only me that thought this but it seems to be a thing after all. I noticed that I can't make a single mistake or I get dinged and the CPU takes advantage. The AI switches are horrible too and that screws me a lot. Like I will switch when they say switch and cover my new guy and the guy I was covering will run the lane and score then it will ding me for defensive breakdown when I switched like they asked!!! I'm new to this game so I only play Pro right now.

                              They do miss once in a great while, but normally they are like 95% from the 3 point line if you give them any opening. You can be standing right next to them even, if you don't raise your hands or jump just right boom score. At least if you are standing next to them they don't ding you for those.

                              Also I don't like the fact you get double the negative for any bad play but you can put up 40 points and you get hardly anything for score, even when you score off an assist. If you score off an assist that should count good for team play imho. NBA Live does that. NBA Live 18 capped your play at 100 last year, this year it just keeps going up and it rewards you evenly for all the good stuff you do as well. I don't feel like this game does that.

                              Overall though what does team play grade really do for you other than give you some extra VC? I'm asking seriously here as I'm new to this game.
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                              • The Gym Reaper
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2017
                                • 438

                                #45
                                Re: MyCareer is extremely scripted, not only about storyline

                                I wouldn't have an issue if your AI teammates were just as smart, but they are extremely nerfed.

                                I've seen my players constantly have great box out position but won't jump for the rebound - they just stare at the ball coming off the rim. I thought this was just maybe Javale McGee's IQ rating being low or something, until I witnessed LeBron do the same thing multiple times. They don't always contest shots either.

                                Feels a bit fishy to me.
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