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  • kabamaru
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 2478

    #16
    Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

    Originally posted by Housh123
    I honestly wasnt gonna say anything

    I explained it well enough

    I ran the PnR I got the switch. I then spaced out and saw my starting C on a PG and pressed the button 2k designated as the lob pass.

    idk what im even supposed to say to "just alley oop it every time". how is that gonna work every single time?

    Well according to what people in the replies say, it is normal that the LOB pass button, doesn't always give LOB passes.

    That's why you should do an alley oop to "adjust" even if your center is 6 feet away from the basket

    Get good!

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    • howardphillips214
      MVP
      • Jan 2018
      • 1928

      #17
      Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

      Originally posted by kabamaru
      Well according to what people in the replies say, it is normal that the LOB pass button, doesn't always give LOB passes.

      That's why you should do an alley oop to "adjust" even if your center is 6 feet away from the basket

      Get good!
      Jesus... Why would you press the correct button for your intended response! You're supposed to compensate for the lack of the foresight of the developers and just adjust your tactics to faulty to mechanics!

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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47568

        #18
        Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

        I stop playing after watching an easy pass get stolen.

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        • ksuttonjr76
          All Star
          • Nov 2004
          • 8662

          #19
          Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

          Sooooooooo....am I only who thought that the pass over Giannis wasn't a good idea from the start? I would have let my center post Bledsoe, then threw a bounce pass. Do you know what type of arch you would have to put on that pass to get over Giannis to get it to the center?

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          • ksuttonjr76
            All Star
            • Nov 2004
            • 8662

            #20
            Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

            Maybe we should start qualifying people's basketball background? Between all the threads, there seems to be distinctive different perspectives on the outcome of certain situations.

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            • wrestlinggod1
              MVP
              • Jan 2008
              • 2491

              #21
              Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

              I can almost guarantee that this was a lead pass but then somehow, Bledsoe immediately stopped moving and just put his hands in the air as if he's Richard Sherman. Unfortunately, the game does questionable things that are for the benefit of the CPU.
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              • wrestlinggod1
                MVP
                • Jan 2008
                • 2491

                #22
                Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

                Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                Sooooooooo....am I only who thought that the pass over Giannis wasn't a good idea from the start? I would have let my center post Bledsoe, then threw a bounce pass. Do you know what type of arch you would have to put on that pass to get over Giannis to get it to the center?

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                This would be a good point if Giannis was the one who stole the ball.
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                • howardphillips214
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 1928

                  #23
                  Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

                  Originally posted by wrestlinggod1
                  This would be a good point if Giannis was the one who stole the ball.
                  Point is... Bledsoe 6'1. His big has DEEP position in the paint and looks like he has momentum rolling to the rim. The passing mechanics regardless of triangle, or X being pressed should realize it's a mouse in the house and compensate. There should be no reason Bledsoe doesn't even have to jump to Palm that pass with 2 hands.

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                  • tru11
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1816

                    #24
                    Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

                    [QUOTE=howardphillips214;2050041255]Point is... Bledsoe 6'1. His big has DEEP position in the paint and looks like he has momentum rolling to the rim. The passing mechanics regardless of triangle, or X being pressed should realize it's a mouse in the house and compensate. There should be no reason Bledsoe doesn't even have to jump to Palm that pass with 2 hands.[/]

                    The user should realize what he should press not the game.

                    For someone that claims to want a sim experience its amazing how every time you keep asking for the game to make things easier for you.

                    Circle is a bounce pass.
                    X is a standard pass.
                    Triangle is a lob pass.
                    Double traingle is an ally oop.

                    You have icon passing.
                    Lead passing.
                    Passing with the analog.

                    In this particular situation with a player in motion moving to the basket the ally oop is the best option.

                    Lob passes are best for players that are posting up and has been since forever.

                    Knowing when to pass and what pass to use is all part of a person understanding of the game.

                    So rather then asking for the game to do it for you i suggest you try and learn it yourself.

                    The game already does to many things for the user , making it more arcade and less sim....


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                    • ksuttonjr76
                      All Star
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 8662

                      #25
                      Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

                      Originally posted by wrestlinggod1
                      I can almost guarantee that this was a lead pass but then somehow, Bledsoe immediately stopped moving and just put his hands in the air as if he's Richard Sherman. Unfortunately, the game does questionable things that are for the benefit of the CPU.
                      Honestly, I don't worry about the one off situations. It's a video game. Sometimes the unexpected happens. Personally, I always turn off lead passing in settings, and I've been doing that since 2K13ish.

                      We ALL need to stop treating this game like a pure simulation of basketball. It's amazing how less frustrated you'll become with the game. Everyone have their moments of rant, but let's not start calling the game garbage.



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                      Last edited by ksuttonjr76; 03-09-2020, 08:00 AM.

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                      • MakaveliLPC
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 365

                        #26
                        Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

                        Passing is so behind in this game. Hopefully they can overhaul it for next gen. It never gets the attention it deserves.

                        I don't think anybody minds bad passes but it seems if the game determines you made a bad pass, you'll just throw it directly to the defender. It can be infuriating

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                        • ksuttonjr76
                          All Star
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 8662

                          #27
                          Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

                          Originally posted by MakaveliLPC
                          Passing is so behind in this game. Hopefully they can overhaul it for next gen. It never gets the attention it deserves.



                          I don't think anybody minds bad passes but it seems if the game determines you made a bad pass, you'll just throw it directly to the defender. It can be infuriating
                          Random thought on this subject, since this "problem occurs in ALL modes. When you throw the ball directly into the defender, all that's really happening is that the ball is following your target. In 90% of the cases, the target was in Spot A, but at the last moment moved towards Spot B. I have thrown those same stupid passes in REC, so the "cpu is cheating" conspiracy is not valid.

                          I can't believe I'm saying this for the first time after years of complaining about this situation. What SHOULD happen is that pass should merely be thrown out of bounds. The million dollar is...can this be implemented without doing a complete overhaul of the passing system? How do you simulate that, because IRL there's usually eye contact between the passer and receiver before a pass is made.

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                          • TheFgGoatLikesHawks
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2019
                            • 359

                            #28
                            Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

                            The premise of the OP is kinda dumb. One play doesn't make or break if it's sim or not. Even if you're right, all that would be needed is to tone down passing lane steal / hands sliders. Simple fix. I think maybe the passing steals should be toned down for crappy defensive players. Like these OP offensive threats, they should suck more at defense, their ratings should matter more.

                            If you wanna see what's wrong with the game, watch a pro am game. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/558506694 Never seen more contested 3's go in (ok maybe 2k17 or 2k18). Never seen more spacing due to 50 ft threes 'gawds'. And ffs can we get rid of the Quick Draw badge. Jumpshot release times are literally Steph Curry in fast forward. So you're tellin me "speed boosting" into an insanely fast 3 is "realistic".

                            5 out and 4 1 iso ball... why? 1) Insane spacing from 50 ft threats 2) Everyone scared of TO's 'cause of passing lane steals 3) OP "curry gawds" still here.
                            Last edited by TheFgGoatLikesHawks; 03-09-2020, 02:25 AM.

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                            • PillBill
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2019
                              • 49

                              #29
                              Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

                              Thread got polluted by the usual 2Kers

                              Yall must work for 2K the way youll defend the game. There are glaring weaknesses in the mechanics of the game but with the constant fanboyism displayed there is zero chance its ever taken seriously. Just a bunch of athletic rejects ball hogging, spending all their money on “virtual currency” and playing the fortnite version of basketball, green splashing and all.

                              Disgusting and pathetic.

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                              • ksuttonjr76
                                All Star
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 8662

                                #30
                                Re: Starting to have an issue with how this game doesn’t simulate actual basketball

                                Originally posted by PillBill
                                Thread got polluted by the usual 2Kers

                                Yall must work for 2K the way youll defend the game. There are glaring weaknesses in the mechanics of the game but with the constant fanboyism displayed there is zero chance its ever taken seriously. Just a bunch of athletic rejects ball hogging, spending all their money on “virtual currency” and playing the fortnite version of basketball, green splashing and all.

                                Disgusting and pathetic.
                                Naw...some of you all take this game way too serious and expect a videogame to replicate every single aspect of basketball down to the smallest atom. It's not that deep. Some of you overreact to one "unsim" incident and think the game is "broken" and "arcade in nature". It's a videogame. It's about as close to basketball as technically possible. I understand genuine programming bugs like those found in MyLeague, however I'm not going to trip over bad passes which are preventable.

                                YES, I will acknowledge that passing lane steals can be OP, BUT that's only if they're being executed by an "elite" team. Certain guns can be OP in COD in the hands of a Pro Gamer. To the everyday average gamer...it's just a gun. From what I'm seeing of passing lane steals...most of it is just user error caused by panic or lack of self-awareness of the defense. How people play "with their heads down" from a 3rd person perspective is beyond me, but NBA 2K20 is a solid game when you're not nit-picking it to death.

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