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  • Goffs
    New Ork Giants
    • Feb 2003
    • 12279

    #46
    Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

    Hooboy....stay away from the park fellas. Its a green fest over there. Hell it doesn't even have to be green. I've seen plenty of white going in. Mike stop saying we've made greens a lot harder this year because every year thats not the case.

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    • mb625
      DJ2K
      • Jan 2012
      • 5016

      #47
      Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

      The new meter is really great. It's all about the rhythm of the catch and shoot, which is super cool. My only complaint is that red releases always manifest as airballs, and for me, they're about the only shots that are missing. I can be shooting 60% and the other 40 are airballs lol. Since airballs are rare in the NBA, I'd prefer them to also be rare in game, so adjusting reds so that they do catch a little rim would be a welcome change.
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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #48
        Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

        Originally posted by mb625
        The new meter is really great. It's all about the rhythm of the catch and shoot, which is super cool. My only complaint is that red releases always manifest as airballs, and for me, they're about the only shots that are missing. I can be shooting 60% and the other 40 are airballs lol. Since airballs are rare in the NBA, I'd prefer them to also be rare in game, so adjusting reds so that they do catch a little rim would be a welcome change.
        I REALLY hate the airballs, lol

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        • mb625
          DJ2K
          • Jan 2012
          • 5016

          #49
          Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
          I REALLY hate the airballs, lol
          It made perfect sense the way the stick was previously, but right now it really turns out poorly lol.

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          • ataman5
            MVP
            • Jun 2007
            • 2620

            #50
            Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

            The greens are all over the place with button shooting on HOF. 3/4 out of 10 shots with button is a green now esp on hot zones, it may even be bigger.

            Whoever told the green is harder this year has again been unjustified. Unfortunately.

            PS: Button shooting doesn't even take any practice or anything.

            ** I told way before the game released and even before demo released just after gameplay blog that as Fifa does with its own defending method strictly as 'tactical defending' a must on online games, 2k should follow the same route and force one way of shooting in online games and that is for this year is 'Pro Stick' shooting.
            Last edited by ataman5; 09-17-2020, 04:46 AM.

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            • Guard-ian
              Pro
              • Apr 2008
              • 612

              #51
              Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

              Greens is what is killing this game, not shooting mechanics...

              They never should have put that arcade bar and green light, but hey! it seems that attracted the masses so... good decision from a business perspective... it's just bad for those as me who loves sim and a clean as possible screen similar to a TV broadcast...

              Anyway, at least now we have the possibility to disable it... so kudos to beluba!!!
              Ignorance is Bliss...

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              • Erithtotl
                Pro
                • Aug 2002
                • 679

                #52
                Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

                Wonder if someone can explain something about the aiming change. I get pulling back after you get the ball shifts the window left, and before shifts it right. but sometimes its in the middle-ish, and I have no idea why.

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #53
                  Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

                  Originally posted by Erithtotl
                  Wonder if someone can explain something about the aiming change. I get pulling back after you get the ball shifts the window left, and before shifts it right. but sometimes its in the middle-ish, and I have no idea why.
                  It's not necessarily when you get the ball, though I can see why you would see it that way.

                  Quick pulls of the stick trigger it right.

                  Slower pulls of the stick trigger it left.

                  It seems triggering in the middle is a rhythm between the two. When I was first getting used to the new mechanics I would get it on pull ups and shots after a crossover.

                  I'm not a fan of that because the games interpretation of that middle ground seems a bit shaky at times....and the whole point of this change was consistency.

                  at this point I am really deliberate with my shot aiming to make sure I get the meter I want and no "surprise middles"

                  Someone correct me if my understanding is off.

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                  • alabamarob
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3352

                    #54
                    Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

                    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                    It's not necessarily when you get the ball, though I can see why you would see it that way.

                    Quick pulls of the stick trigger it right.

                    Slower pulls of the stick trigger it left.

                    It seems triggering in the middle is a rhythm between the two. When I was first getting used to the new mechanics I would get it on pull ups and shots after a crossover.

                    I'm not a fan of that because the games interpretation of that middle ground seems a bit shaky at times....and the whole point of this change was consistency.

                    at this point I am really deliberate with my shot aiming to make sure I get the meter I want and no "surprise middles"

                    Someone correct me if my understanding is off.
                    Nope you got it correct. The only issue is consistency. Sometimes I pull fast and end up in the middle, and sometimes i don’t pull fast and I end up to the right. I am also having problems with catch and shoots. In practice if I hold down pre shot the meter goes to the right, but in a game it pops up everywhere. Then every blue moon the meter won’t be to the right or the middle but in between. Same with the left. So there are like 5 different places it could show up.

                    Any updates on the side step 3”s? It would greatly open up the offense. Especially on closeouts. In real life the pumpfake and side step 3 is huge. It was in the demo, but taken out of the game.
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                    • The 24th Letter
                      ERA
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 39373

                      #55
                      Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

                      Originally posted by alabamarob
                      Nope you got it correct. The only issue is consistency. Sometimes I pull fast and end up in the middle, and sometimes i don’t pull fast and I end up to the right. I am also having problems with catch and shoots. In practice if I hold down pre shot the meter goes to the right, but in a game it pops up everywhere. Then every blue moon the meter won’t be to the right or the middle but in between. Same with the left. So there are like 5 different places it could show up.

                      Any updates on the side step 3”s? It would greatly open up the offense. Especially on closeouts. In real life the pumpfake and side step 3 is huge. It was in the demo, but taken out of the game.
                      I've hit Mike up quite a few times about side steps. I havent heard anything back as of yet.

                      You are spot on about practice.

                      The catch animation in practice is different than in game somehow. So if you are like me and "queue" your jumper before you even catch the ball, the meter will end up far left. In game you have a little bit more leeway to decide

                      I'm literally popping my RS stick to get consistency across the court, lol....but certain shot types are tricky.

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                      • Erithtotl
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 679

                        #56
                        Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

                        Another question, it sometimes appears that you've adjusted the stick basically dead center then you get an airball and a 'left' or whatever for feedback. It sort of feels like maybe you can adjust the stick after the target is 'locked in', and you get a false impression you've aimed correctly but have not?

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                        • alabamarob
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3352

                          #57
                          Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

                          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                          I've hit Mike up quite a few times about side steps. I havent heard anything back as of yet.

                          You are spot on about practice.

                          The catch animation in practice is different than in game somehow. So if you are like me and "queue" your jumper before you even catch the ball, the meter will end up far left. In game you have a little bit more leeway to decide

                          I'm literally popping my RS stick to get consistency across the court, lol....but certain shot types are tricky.
                          So you always pulling hard trying to get that aim on the right side? Haha. I tried that but my old man reflexes can’t even pull the stick that fast every time.
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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #58
                            Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

                            Originally posted by alabamarob
                            So you always pulling hard trying to get that aim on the right side? Haha. I tried that but my old man reflexes can’t even pull the stick that fast every time.
                            Yep, thats my way of just keeping it simple lol

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                            • Dagoods
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2019
                              • 23

                              #59
                              Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

                              I'm playing at PRO level and the PC can't miss, Shaq is even draining 3s from way down town!

                              Is this a bug? Or should I switch from PRO to Professional?

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                              • Guard-ian
                                Pro
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 612

                                #60
                                Re: Updated Shooting Difficulty In Patch 1.02 (Feedback)

                                Originally posted by alabamarob
                                Any updates on the side step 3”s? It would greatly open up the offense. Especially on closeouts. In real life the pumpfake and side step 3 is huge. It was in the demo, but taken out of the game.
                                Side Steps 3's (and mids also) work for me but I am only able to trigger them whit the shot button (X in my Xbox), after a pump fake and before initiating any driblling, so to do it:

                                1.- you catch the ball (and before moving or dribbling) pump fake with X (shot button)
                                2.- after the pump fake move Left Stick to the side you want to step
                                3.- push the shot button again to complete the side step shot while you have LS deflected

                                Try and let me know, for me that way it works consistently...

                                Cheers! ;-)
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