Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

[CharliePrince]

Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

The number value isn't the only thing that gives the Potential grade. I think height and certain mental attributes play a role because iirc even if you give someone a 99 Potential it isn't an A+ plus letter grade sometimes. I think that the skills they have also play a key role. This needs further research IMO.

Also Juke badass avatar man.

you made a very good point something I've personally seen (last year, i'm less player editing in my associaiton now since it's being tracked here) but in 2k11 i wanted to give certain teams that "key" rookie and gave them 99 pot..

ironically, some of their letter grades as you mentioned weren't even A+ .. it was B+ at the most!

but then again i did edit other things for those rookies so my rationale was their skills were already the best it could be and therefore potential didn't affect them..
ie: if I edited a Pass-first PG with the Lakers and set his OFF AWR, PASSING and Handling to 99.. even with a potential of 99 his letter grade was only B+

that's pretty much why i say there's so many variables and nothing is absolute and people are wasting their time trying to find some cookie cutter formula

it as you said, everything about a player is connected.. their DNA so to speak

edit: i recently posted again in this thread instead of just sitting back laughing at everyone because for me, it's something new I learned and for certain wasn't in nba2k11... specifically: a player's POTential GOING UP, I always thought it was static

[fzdoom]

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FYI, the letter grade you see for player's potential is factored by how good an NBA scout you have. So if your scout is a C, then 99 rated potential will look like a B+ grade, eventhough it should say A+.

[RedSceptile]

Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

FYI, the letter grade you see for player's potential is factored by how good an NBA scout you have. So if your scout is a C, then 99 rated potential will look like a B+ grade, eventhough it should say A+.

Don't think so. Just going into roster editing (where there are no scouts) and that isn't the case. Could be wrong and might need to double check though.

[Jukeman]

FYI, the letter grade you see for player's potential is factored by how good an NBA scout you have. So if your scout is a C, then 99 rated potential will look like a B+ grade, eventhough it should say A+.

Dint think that's the case here, I 90% sure that feature is only used for scouting prospects and viewing players that is not on your current roster.

Plus he (B- guy) still progressed 10 points in 8 years (drafted at age 19-20)

I also notice that the guy who was a 67 pot(D+) was rated in the high 60's OVR when he was drafted while the 67 pot(B-) guy was a 59 OVR..

So Pot and OVR may indeed work as a cap and rate.


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[Tackleberry]

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Don't think so. Just going into roster editing (where there are no scouts) and that isn't the case. Could be wrong and might need to double check though.

You are wrong, he is correct. The accuracy of the potential grade shown in roster and trade screen is dependant on your NBA scouts rating.

[llantaeusll]

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I dont know if this had been covered or if it is even that important to go in this section. If it doesnt then my fault and wont do it again but I noticed in association that it wouldnt let me sign a free agent during the 1st season. It would just freeze but during the offseason and second it started back working. I just found that odd and see if anyone had experienced that.

Also can yall explain why when I simulate why there are sometimes so many unrealistic scores like teams getting beat by 40 or 50 points sometimes?

[Tackleberry]

Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

Dint think that's the case here, I 90% sure that feature is only used for scouting prospects and viewing players that is not on your current roster.

Plus he (B- guy) still progressed 10 points in 8 years (drafted at age 19-20)

I also notice that the guy who was a 67 pot(D+) was rated in the high 60's OVR when he was drafted while the 67 pot(B-) guy was a 59 OVR..

So Pot and OVR may indeed work as a cap and rate.


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Potential is a cap, it does progress as a player progresses. A player who is 60 overall with 70 potential will progress further than a player who is 68 overall with 70 potential. Players with a 10 point gap between overall and potential will progress more and for longer than say a player with a 2 point gap between overall and potential. If a player progresses 4 points in the offseason his potential will progress 2 or 3 points. You guys are reading way too much into this, it's pretty easy to figure out with a few simple tests. It is actually a very good system and allows for good players to be found later in drafts.

[Tackleberry]

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Actually it was in 2k11 but it just wasn't as noticeable because the upgrade was minor, maybe it would go up 1-2 pts in 5 years lol


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It was exactly the same last year, the difference was in the generated draft classes. The classes are much better this year. This is post patch, pre patch the potential rating didn't work at all.

[jinntu]

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You are wrong, he is correct. The accuracy of the potential grade shown in roster and trade screen is dependant on your NBA scouts rating.

No, you're wrong. Reread what he said, in the Roster Edit screen, ie not even in the Association where scouts would even be factored in....

[Tackleberry]

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No, you're wrong. Reread what he said, in the Roster Edit screen, ie not even in the Association where scouts would even be factored in....

No, you're wrong, in the roster edit screen outside of association they don't even show you a letter grade for potential. Inside the association where you see this letter grade, its accuracy is dependant on your scout.

[Jukeman]

Here's another problem, although I am not sure on how it translate to gameplay but later in your association, players (yes Centers) progress significantly in they're 3pt tendency...

Howard is attempting about 40 3's a year while J McGee is well over 100...

We all know how the bigs 3pt glitch killed association a few years ago, luckily we can edit the tendency back to a normal number..

Well, this is more evidence that players need to progress to they're play styles!

Btw, it also hinders the FG% of players league wide (mainly guys with a poor 3pt rating)


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[MarvellousOne]

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I have also seen the 3pt tendency glitch just last night. I was watching cpu vs cpu in my association and daniel orton was shooting a 3 everytime he was open. So I quit match and checed his tendency and sure enough it was set at 63. For the past 3 years in my association he taking 200+ 3pts per year....I think I need to check around my association to see if any other centers are doing the same.

[rjohns23]

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Good find fellas, in regard to the C's 3pt tendency increasing. Seems like we have to edit everything Lol!... Just think if we couldn't edit players in the association, this would be

[Jukeman]

Good find fellas, in regard to the C's 3pt tendency increasing. Seems like we have to edit everything Lol!... Just think if we couldn't edit players in the association, this would be

Yea smh I'm used to it with choops 2k8 tho, it wasn't centers with the 3pt tendency but random players with very poor 3 pt ratings would progress up to 99 3pt tendency in that game! So im ready for the edits..Would be nice if it was fixed but at the same time I don't want them to screw something up like tendencies not progressing at all.


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[Tackleberry]

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It's not just bigs that have the problem, it's just more noticeable with them. Every player that progresses their rating in the offseason has their 3pt tendency go up.