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  • Andarus
    Banned
    • May 2009
    • 145

    #46
    Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

    Looks like you still will need to manually edit the draft classes alot. I mostly try to only have 1-2 Players with 85+ potential and Rest of the Top10 like 70-75.

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    • Pitfighter87
      Pro
      • Nov 2009
      • 803

      #47
      Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

      Man cant wait for some draft classes.I went ahead and got it tonight i couldnt wait any longer.Im really enjoyin the smoothness of the game and the commentary is actually really good.Im in my first game with the wizards in my association vs the nets.

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      • Matty Aqua
        Pro
        • Oct 2009
        • 1298

        #48
        Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

        are the rotations still screwed up?....will i have to control all 30 teams again?

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        • CWSapp757
          SimWorld Draft Class Guru
          • Aug 2008
          • 4651

          #49
          Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

          I really don't understand why 2K would continuously program these mediocre players with such high potential ratings. It doesn't seem like such a big deal until you get deep in to your Association. Here are some notable player ratings that I came across just by simulating several years into the future.

          Darren Collison 89
          Ricky Rubio 93
          Anthony Randolph 89
          Jonny Flynn 88
          Xavier Henry 87
          Patrick Patterson 88
          Ed Davis 86
          Landry Fields 86
          Brandon Jennings 94

          Now I am not going to sit here and say that there isn't a chance that any of these players will showcase the talent in real life that will justify these type of rating in the future. As a matter of fact I'm sure a couple of those guys will probably be all-stars at least once in the future. However, to have ALL of those guys with all-star type ratings (in addition to many many others) makes the mode less enjoyable. Bottom line: potential gotta come down.

          And Pit, I've been working on some draft classes but they are not going to be compatible with the default roster. I am going to have my draft classes set up just like I did last year. I plan on making about 9 or 10. Most will be mediocre with some good players sprinkled around in there but I always have a bust draft (see the 2000 NBA draft) and one where a lot of good players are spread throughout the draft. I also include players that will have low overalls but excel at a certain skill. I suggest that anyone that does use my draft classes to just scout and not cheat to find the gems lol. Makes it more interesting and exciting that way.
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          • SwaggerCoach
            MVP
            • Oct 2011
            • 1342

            #50
            Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

            Originally posted by CWSapp757
            I really don't understand why 2K would continuously program these mediocre players with such high potential ratings. It doesn't seem like such a big deal until you get deep in to your Association. Here are some notable player ratings that I came across just by simulating several years into the future.

            Darren Collison 89
            Ricky Rubio 93
            Anthony Randolph 89
            Jonny Flynn 88
            Xavier Henry 87
            Patrick Patterson 88
            Ed Davis 86
            Landry Fields 86
            Brandon Jennings 94

            Now I am not going to sit here and say that there isn't a chance that any of these players will showcase the talent in real life that will justify these type of rating in the future. As a matter of fact I'm sure a couple of those guys will probably be all-stars at least once in the future. However, to have ALL of those guys with all-star type ratings (in addition to many many others) makes the mode less enjoyable. Bottom line: potential gotta come down.

            And Pit, I've been working on some draft classes but they are not going to be compatible with the default roster. I am going to have my draft classes set up just like I did last year. I plan on making about 9 or 10. Most will be mediocre with some good players sprinkled around in there but I always have a bust draft (see the 2000 NBA draft) and one where a lot of good players are spread throughout the draft. I also include players that will have low overalls but excel at a certain skill. I suggest that anyone that does use my draft classes to just scout and not cheat to find the gems lol. Makes it more interesting and exciting that way.
            Look forward to checking our your draft classes. I know I'll definitely be making my own...as well as going through and editing the potential for the guys currently in the NBA.

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            • swish_316
              Rookie
              • Sep 2011
              • 21

              #51
              Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

              just simmed one year of association with my friends game.
              free agents after season 1:

              cp3 went to the bobcats
              d.rose resigned
              westbrook resigned
              wilson chandler resigned
              eric gordon resigned
              brook lopez resigned
              oj.mayo resigned
              garnett resigned
              jr smith
              marc gasol
              batum
              brooks
              m.thornton
              mcgee
              ja.crawford
              fields
              vince carter and so on

              3 x 90+
              5 x 80+
              25 x 70+

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              • BBaller24
                Rookie
                • Jul 2010
                • 82

                #52
                Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                Will you be posting your draft classes on 2k share?
                PSN: ThatRick2k
                Los Angeles Dodgers, Los Angeles Lakers, Denver Broncos, UCLA Bruins

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                • CWSapp757
                  SimWorld Draft Class Guru
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 4651

                  #53
                  Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                  Yeah I definitely will man. The thing that's taking me kinda long is the fact that I'm going and lowering potential across the board. I've already got a base for a few draft classes but I need to finish them up and test them in Association to see how they fit with the real players.
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                  • CWSapp757
                    SimWorld Draft Class Guru
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 4651

                    #54
                    Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                    Just wondering if anyone else plans on lowering potential for most of the players? I've done so and it definitely helps the overabundance of 80+ players in the future. Anyone else plan on doing this also?
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                    • SwaggerCoach
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1342

                      #55
                      Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                      Originally posted by CWSapp757
                      Just wondering if anyone else plans on lowering potential for most of the players? I've done so and it definitely helps the overabundance of 80+ players in the future. Anyone else plan on doing this also?
                      I am - going to pick up the game today (FINALLY) and get to work editing the players.

                      What I'll probably do is drop everyone by roughly 10 points each (except for a few young guys I see becoming absolute stars (Blake Griffin, John Wall, Kevin Durant, etc.)

                      What do you suggest doing to evenly lower potential?

                      (BTW - this thread is a GREAT idea - wish I had it last year with 2k11)

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                      • CWSapp757
                        SimWorld Draft Class Guru
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 4651

                        #56
                        Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                        Thanks man. I just think we can all help each other to make the game more realistic and enjoyable.

                        And as far as editing potential, it was kind of difficult. I'm probably going to go back and re-edit some things but what I was lower a lot of players by 10, but some were already relatively low so I only lowered them by 5. It was kind of on a case by case basis. Like I said, I'm just experimenting right now. But the results seem to be an improvement so far.
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                        • SwaggerCoach
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1342

                          #57
                          Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                          Originally posted by CWSapp757
                          Thanks man. I just think we can all help each other to make the game more realistic and enjoyable.

                          And as far as editing potential, it was kind of difficult. I'm probably going to go back and re-edit some things but what I was lower a lot of players by 10, but some were already relatively low so I only lowered them by 5. It was kind of on a case by case basis. Like I said, I'm just experimenting right now. But the results seem to be an improvement so far.
                          Good deal - just picked the game up (Larry Legend cover baby!) and am going to play around for a while, then start taking a look at potential. Probably a case by case basis for me as well, but I'll probably drop most by 10/5.

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                          • CWSapp757
                            SimWorld Draft Class Guru
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 4651

                            #58
                            Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                            Hey swagger, did you want me to upload my roster so you don't have as much work to do? Its cool if not but I figured I'd offer. I also got about three draft classes to upload. I want to tweak some things but they are basically just about ready and compatible with rosters that have lowered potential. Anybody just let me know if you're interested.
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                            • SwaggerCoach
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1342

                              #59
                              Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                              Originally posted by CWSapp757
                              Hey swagger, did you want me to upload my roster so you don't have as much work to do? Its cool if not but I figured I'd offer. I also got about three draft classes to upload. I want to tweak some things but they are basically just about ready and compatible with rosters that have lowered potential. Anybody just let me know if you're interested.
                              I have a PS3..if you have PS3, that'd be cool. I just went through and looked at who is either:

                              A) Highly rated in 2K12
                              B) Who has/should have high potential

                              So here's my list of the highest potential ratings for the league:

                              Glaring problems are bolded.

                              Lebron James 99
                              Dwayne Wade 99
                              Kobe Bryant 99
                              Tim Duncan 99
                              Kevin Garnett 99
                              Steve Nash 98

                              Dirk Nowitzki 97
                              Kevin Durant 97
                              John Wall 97
                              Chris Paul 97
                              Dwight Howard 96
                              Deron Williams 95
                              Carmelo Anthony 95
                              Amare Stoudemire 95
                              Paul Pierce 95
                              Ray Allen 95

                              Derrick Rose 94
                              Pau Gasol 94
                              Danny Granger 94
                              Chris Bosh 94
                              Al Jefferson 94
                              Blake Griffin 93
                              Joe Johnson 93
                              Tony Parker 93
                              DeMarcus Cousins 93
                              Rajon Rondo 92
                              Caron Butler 92
                              Derrick Favors 92
                              Russell Westbrook 91
                              OJ Mayo 91
                              Evan Turner 91
                              Tyreke Evans 90
                              Manu Ginobili 90
                              Stephen Curry 90
                              Brook Lopez 90
                              Rudy Gay 89
                              Andre Iguodala 89
                              Brandon Jennings 89
                              Lamar Odom 89
                              Zach Randolph 88
                              LaMarcus Aldridge 88
                              Monta Ellis 88
                              Ricky Rubio 88
                              Chris Kaman 88
                              Andrew Bynum 87
                              Gerald Wallace 86
                              Stephen Jackson 86
                              Al Horford 86
                              Ty Lawson 86
                              Josh Smith 85
                              Brandon Roy 85
                              Paul George 85
                              Wesley Johnson 85
                              Anthony Randolph 85
                              Tyrus Thomas 85
                              Michael Beasley 84
                              Andrew Bogut 84
                              Wilson Chandler 84
                              Rodney Stuckey 84
                              DeMar DeRozan 84
                              James Harden 84
                              Eric Gordon 83
                              Kevin Love 82
                              Patrick Patterson 82
                              Darren Collison 81
                              Roy Hibbert 81
                              Paul Millsap 80
                              Eric Bledsoe 80
                              Michael Conley 80
                              Marc Gasol 80
                              Jrue Holiday 79
                              Marcus Thornton 79
                              Javale McGee 79
                              DJ Augustin 79
                              Ramon Sessions 79
                              Jeff Green 79
                              JJ Hickson 78
                              Landry Fields 78
                              Al Farouq Aminu 78
                              Serge Ibaka 70 - Way too low IMO.

                              I probably left out at least 5-10 key players...this is just a quick look through the league.

                              Already, I see a lot of players rated way too high.

                              In Ibaka's case, he's 75 overall now...and yet his potential is a 70?! So he's going to get WORSE as he progresses (age 22)??? Huh??!

                              And of course, there's no reason for Garnett, Duncan, and Nash to have such ridiculous potential...they're not going to get any better.

                              Hopefully this helps in some way - I'm still working with it.

                              One last question: If someone's potential is 80...does that mean they will never get to 81? And does it mean they are guaranteed to reach 80 at some point in their career?

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                              • CWSapp757
                                SimWorld Draft Class Guru
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 4651

                                #60
                                Re: Some info for those of you that like to go deep into your Association.....

                                Well, here's something I learned about NBA2K12.... someone with an 80 potential can very easily pass an overall of 80. The potential isn't necessarily a benchmark for what overall they will reach but instead gives you an idea of how many points they can/will increase each year. For example, a player with 80 potential comng out of the draft with an 80 overall can reach a 90 overall. And I've seen a lot of players with 75 potential reach the mid 80s. Its weird how they do it honestly.

                                And it sucks you're on PS3. I'm on 360 man.
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