Jeremy Lin

[slimm44]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I just simmed a season with the ratings/tendencies I listed above (although I changed his Inside Shot Rating to 95 for the sim-engine). Here are the results:

Basic

32.8 MPG, 48%FG, 29%3PT, 20.9PPG, 3.7RPG, 6.9APG, 2.2SPG, 3.4TOPG

Metric

25.85 Per, 20.8 EFF, 55%TS, 51%EFG, 5.6REBRate, 23.6AstRate, 11.5 TORate, 30USGRate

Not bad for a guy with a 69 rating.

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I just simmed a season with the ratings/tendencies I listed above (although I changed his Inside Shot Rating to 95 for the sim-engine). Here are the results:

Basic

32.8 MPG, 48%FG, 29%3PT, 20.9PPG, 3.7RPG, 6.9APG, 2.2SPG, 3.4TOPG

Metric

25.85 Per, 20.8 EFF, 55%TS, 51%EFG, 5.6REBRate, 23.6AstRate, 11.5 TORate, 30USGRate

Not bad for a guy with a 69 rating.

Im curious what you had the other players minutes and shot tendencies set to, because for a player to average 21 a game and only have a 50 shot tendency seems to be a little bit of a fabrication.

Not saying I don't believe you, but something doesn't seem right about the info you gave

[Pitfighter87]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Wall does a have weakness and that's shooting from outside. Lin isn't a long range bomber, but he can atleast hit the open 3. I haven't seen Wall do it yet.

I agree Wall isnt as good of outside shooter as Lin but his Mid range is really startin to be consistent and he's still really young so he can add that to his game.Lin doesnt have the end to end speed or defense Wall has though.Both have their pros and cons but if im startin a team im taken J WALL over J LIN.

[slimm44]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Im curious what you had the other players minutes and shot tendencies set to, because for a player to average 21 a game and only have a 50 shot tendency seems to be a little bit of a fabrication.

Not saying I don't believe you, but something doesn't seem right about the info you gave

Ask and you shall receive. I'm just going to post the starters' and 6th man minutes and tendencies for now. If you want the rest, let me know.

Jeremy Lin 32.8MPG
Ratings/Tendencies/MPG listed above

Landry Fields
32.1MPG, 40%FG, 31%3PT, 11.6PPG, 6.1RPG, 1.6APG, .6SPG
35 Take Shot
35 Inside Shot
14 Close Shot
10 Mid Range
34 3PT

Bill Walker
25.5MPG, 44%FG, 43%3PT, 7PPG, 4RPG, 1.1APG, .3SPG
30 Take Shot
22 Inside Shot
11 Close Shot
9 Mid Range
78 3PT

Amare Stoudemire
33MPG, 46%FG, 19.9PPG, 7.1RPG, 1.1APG, .4SPG
50 Take Shot
67 Inside Shot
76 Close Shot
59 Mid Range

Tyson Chandler
31.2MPG, 53%FG, 4.5PPG, 10.4RPG, 1.5APG, .4SPG
25 Take Shot
58 Inside Shot
12 Close Shot
9 Mid Range

Iman Shumpert (Didn't adjust his Inside Shot Rating so his FG% was low)
26.8MPG, 35%FG, 23%3PT, 13PPG, 4.2RPG, 2.6APG, 2SPG
45 Take Shot
40 Inside Shot
32 Close Shot
32 Mid Range
48 3PT

[slimm44]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I ran another sim with all players' Inside Shot Rating adjusted to 2k's scale and this is how the FG% changed. I don't use this when I play because it puts almost all players Inside Shot Rating at 95+ and I wanted more variation in gameplay. In the NBA, the % ranges from roughly 45% to 75% at the rim but 2k uses a scale that ranges from 30% to 60%. The league average for hitting shots at the rim is 60%.

Lin 47%
Fields 46%
Walker 44%
Stoudemire 50%
Chandler 50%
Shumpert 40%

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Ask and you shall receive. I'm just going to post the starters' and 6th man minutes and tendencies for now. If you want the rest, let me know.

Jeremy Lin 32.8MPG
Ratings/Tendencies/MPG listed above

Landry Fields
32.1MPG, 40%FG, 31%3PT, 11.6PPG, 6.1RPG, 1.6APG, .6SPG
35 Take Shot
35 Inside Shot
14 Close Shot
10 Mid Range
34 3PT

Bill Walker
25.5MPG, 44%FG, 43%3PT, 7PPG, 4RPG, 1.1APG, .3SPG
30 Take Shot
22 Inside Shot
11 Close Shot
9 Mid Range
78 3PT

Amare Stoudemire
33MPG, 46%FG, 19.9PPG, 7.1RPG, 1.1APG, .4SPG
50 Take Shot
67 Inside Shot
76 Close Shot
59 Mid Range

Tyson Chandler
31.2MPG, 53%FG, 4.5PPG, 10.4RPG, 1.5APG, .4SPG
25 Take Shot
58 Inside Shot
12 Close Shot
9 Mid Range

Iman Shumpert (Didn't adjust his Inside Shot Rating so his FG% was low)
26.8MPG, 35%FG, 23%3PT, 13PPG, 4.2RPG, 2.6APG, 2SPG
45 Take Shot
40 Inside Shot
32 Close Shot
32 Mid Range
48 3PT

What about Anthony? Those numbers are a little skewed without him right?

Sounds like you scaled down shot tendency across the board which makes a little more sense

[slimm44]

Re: Jeremy Lin

What about Anthony? Those numbers are a little skewed without him right?

Sounds like you scaled down shot tendency across the board which makes a little more sense

I thought I mentioned in the earlier post that sim was done without Anthony. I'll add him in a future sim and post the results. I haven't tried yet, but I'm kind of wondering what will happen.

I sent you a PM.

[slimm44]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Just ran a sim with Anthony starting but haven't put Smith on the roster yet.

Lin 33.4MPG, 49%FG on 15FGA/G, 30%3PT, 19.4PPG, 3.8RPG, 8.6APG, 2.3SPG
Fields 32MPG, 45%FG on 7.5FGA/G, 36%3PT, 9.6PPG, 6.2RPG, 1.7APG, .7SPG
Anthony 33.3MPG, 51%FG on 17.6FGA/G, 31%3PT, 6.1RPG, 1.3APG, .4SPG
Stoudemire 33.2MPG, 52%FG 13.5FGA/G, 17.4PPG, 6.9RPG, 1.4APG, 1 BPG
Chandler 30.8MPG, 55%FG on 2.5FGA/G, 3.9PPG, 9.9RPG, 1.5APG, .7BPG
Shumpert 26.8MPG, 40%FG on 9.5FGA/G, 25%3PT, 11.2PPG, 3.7RPG, 3APG, 2SPG

Lin and Anthony both made 2nd team All-NBA
Lin made All Defensive 2nd Team
Shumpert made All Rookie 1st Team

[KensaiKatai]

Re: Jeremy Lin

My responses are in bold:





SMH.

care to dispute MY statement with more than a SMH.. I have numbers to back up what I said... do you? and btw, Magic Johnson agrees with me.

[slimm44]

Re: Jeremy Lin

care to dispute MY statement with more than a SMH.. I have numbers to back up what I said... do you? and btw, Magic Johnson agrees with me.

I'll tell you what...This is a 2k thread that has been derailed enough times. If you want to take your belief that Jeremy Lin is playing as well as anybody EVER has before, type up why you feel that way using your opinion, the numbers that you have to back it up, and the statements that Magic made that agree with you, and take yourself over to the Jeremy Lin discussion on the Pro Basketball forum. I'll gladly dispute your argument over there.

As for this thread, please list what ratings and tendencies you would give Jeremy Lin in the game to make him play as realistically as possible.

[Pared]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I bet he's the top player in the league or spent a whole lotta time perfecting his shot. How many have you seen shoot jumpers wit Griffin?

No, but he's competitive. I've hit jumpers with Griffin as well.

Unfortunately most are enamored with his athletic ability, which is why they choose to drive with him. It makes sense - go with his strengths.

[Colts18]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Offensive awareness - 92. He's an offensive genius, enough said.

This is just wrong. Someone with hardly any NBA Experience being that blessed in this category is just undeserved. He is a very young player with little experience, high 90s should be reserved for veteran NBA Players and/or the cream of the crop. He is intelligent but 92? No way.

[KensaiKatai]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I'll tell you what...This is a 2k thread that has been derailed enough times. If you want to take your belief that Jeremy Lin is playing as well as anybody EVER has before, type up why you feel that way using your opinion, the numbers that you have to back it up, and the statements that Magic made that agree with you, and take yourself over to the Jeremy Lin discussion on the Pro Basketball forum. I'll gladly dispute your argument over there.

As for this thread, please list what ratings and tendencies you would give Jeremy Lin in the game to make him play as realistically as possible.

that's what i thought.. first a trollish response.. then you defer.. and then you take what i say and make it a sig out of context.. whatever.

show me a point guard that has ever put up the numbers in his first games as a starter.. i don't have to prove anything to you.. you are the one who took what i said out of context and then SHOOK YOUR HEAD at me.. real mature..

I'll tell you what mr. condescension..

as i said if you want to UNDERRATE him in the interest of long term sustainability then that is completely understandable but IMO you are just delaying the inevitable.. again.. show me ONE POINT GUARD that is playing better than him or who has played better than him in his first 10 games as a starter. he makes everyone on that team better.. something that you can't quantify with a rating either.. but I expect you to SMH at that too.. don't forget to take what i said out of context and make it another sig either.. h a t e r.

[KensaiKatai]

Re: Jeremy Lin

This is just wrong. Someone with hardly any NBA Experience being that blessed in this category is just undeserved. He is a very young player with little experience, high 90s should be reserved for veteran NBA Players and/or the cream of the crop. He is intelligent but 92? No way.

he has the best court vision i've seen since Nash. he gets a little wreckless with the ball because the defense has been trapping the hell out of him but he usually gets the ball to the right spot.. amongst the best i've ever seen at that actually.. his assist numbers are not a coincidence. i personally don't need a million records to know a hit record when i hear it. hence why i knew he was the real deal after his FIRST game.. and by the way... i hadn't cared to watch or cared about the knicks in years.. because they have lacked so much heart.. if there was a heart rating his should be 100.

[slimm44]

My offer still stands. If you want my response, go to the appropriate place to have the discussion, ie the pro basketball forum. If not, let us know how to edit his ratings and tendencies so he'll play realistically. I've not only posted mine but also posted sim results to back up my ideas. I've shown you mine, now show me yours. Try to refrain from the all caps words, please. It makes it more difficult to read your posts.