Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

[Streaky McFloorburn]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

99 Block- Russell, Hakeem, Wilt
99 Steal - AI, Stockton, Michael Ray
99 Pass- Pistol, Magic

As far as legends go there should be lots of players with 99s in different categories

Not if you can play online with them or have them on CPU controlled teams in an association. They should be rated realistically on a linear scale like everyone else. Thanks for correcting my oversight with the guys who predate the block stat, and I agree with you about Pistol and Magic from an aesthetic sense, if all the rating did was allow for flashier passes (I'd love to throw the young White Chocolate in there too). I just feel that there's got to be stat-based differentiation when you're talking about ratings that will produce certain results in a simulation, and that's the standard I was using in my first post.

[mightyrx]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

There shouldn't be anyone with 99 anything.
High 90's? yes.
But not 99.
Especially not shooting related. (close, mids, and especially 3s)

[richmo]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

There shouldn't be anyone with 99 anything.
High 90's? yes.
But not 99.
Especially not shooting related. (close, mids, and especially 3s)

I agree with this somewhat. I want to see 2k scale the ratings so that a 90/90 rebound rating can get you 15 rebounds, a 90 pass rating 12 assists, etc. etc. Would make ratings lower but would further seperate players and leaves it open to reach even BETTER record-breaking numbers in Association seasons.

[Zach_Novak]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

ray ray in his prime should've had a 99 3pt rating, can't diss the best 3pt shooter of all time (maybe 98 would be fine) but if you're talking about this season he is old... and injury prone, and doesn't have the same shot he once had on that consistent basis.

[slimm44]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

Unless they changed the sim-engine, these are what 99's translate to:

Inside Shot 99 - 60% (hoopdata.com) - Nearly the entire league should have a 99. I REALLY hope they change this scale this year.
Close Shot 99 - 55% (hoopdata.com).
Mid-Range Shot 99 - 55% (hoopdata.com).
3PT Shot 99 - 50% (hoopdata.com).
FT 99 - 99% (hoopdata.com).
Pass 99 - 50% Assist Percentage (Basketball-reference.com, under Advanced Stats)
Block 99 - 6% Block Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)
Steal 99 - 5% Steal Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)
Offensive Rebound 99 - 14% Offensive Rebound Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)
Defensive Rebound 99 - 30% Defensive Rebound Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)

Going by last year's stats alone (I go by a 3 year average in my rosters), the following players would get 99's in objective statistical categories. If no one deserved a 99, the highest rated player is listed:

Close Shot - None (Hibbert - 92)
Mid Range - None (Dirk - 94)
3PT - None (Novak - 96)
Passing - Steve Nash, Rajon Rondo
Steal - None (Chris Paul - 84)
Block - Serge Ibaka, Javale McGee, DeAndre Jordan, Ekpe Udoh, Bismack Biyombo)
Offensive Rebounding - Nikola Pekovic, Tristan Thompson, Demarcus Cousins, Joakim Noah
Defensive Rebounding - Dwight Howard, Marcus Camby

[slimm44]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

ray ray in his prime should've had a 99 3pt rating, can't diss the best 3pt shooter of all time (maybe 98 would be fine) but if you're talking about this season he is old... and injury prone, and doesn't have the same shot he once had on that consistent basis.

Allen would get a 94 based on last season's % (45). Incidentally, last year was the best of his career from 3PT land.

[ojandpizza]

Unless they changed the sim-engine, these are what 99's translate to:

Inside Shot 99 - 60% (hoopdata.com) - Nearly the entire league should have a 99. I REALLY hope they change this scale this year.
Close Shot 99 - 55% (hoopdata.com).
Mid-Range Shot 99 - 55% (hoopdata.com).
3PT Shot 99 - 50% (hoopdata.com).
FT 99 - 99% (hoopdata.com).
Pass 99 - 50% Assist Percentage (Basketball-reference.com, under Advanced Stats)
Block 99 - 6% Block Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)
Steal 99 - 5% Steal Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)
Offensive Rebound 99 - 14% Offensive Rebound Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)
Defensive Rebound 99 - 30% Defensive Rebound Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)

Going by last year's stats alone (I go by a 3 year average in my rosters), the following players would get 99's in objective statistical categories. If no one deserved a 99, the highest rated player is listed:

Close Shot - None (Hibbert - 92)
Mid Range - None (Dirk - 94)
3PT - None (Novak - 96)
Passing - Steve Nash, Rajon Rondo
Steal - None (Chris Paul - 84)
Block - Serge Ibaka, Javale McGee, DeAndre Jordan, Ekpe Udoh, Bismack Biyombo)
Offensive Rebounding - Nikola Pekovic, Tristan Thompson, Demarcus Cousins, Joakim Noah
Defensive Rebounding - Dwight Howard, Marcus Camby

I disagree with that list completely.. For one Kevin Love is the best rebounder in the entire nba, he should at least be 99 on defensive rebounds.. I also don't think Novak is the best shooter in the NBA.. He just gets the open looks because he's absolutely terrible LOL.. I understand you went by the stat based system but stats don't tell the entire story..

[slimm44]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

I disagree with that list completely.. For one Kevin Love is the best rebounder in the entire nba, he should at least be 99 on defensive rebounds.. I also don't think Novak is the best shooter in the NBA.. He just gets the open looks because he's absolutely terrible LOL.. I understand you went by the stat based system but stats don't tell the entire story..

How many rosters did you release last year?

[RedSceptile]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

How many rosters did you release last year?

Something about that made me laugh more than I needed too.

[Biagas]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

Unless they changed the sim-engine, these are what 99's translate to:

Inside Shot 99 - 60% (hoopdata.com) - Nearly the entire league should have a 99. I REALLY hope they change this scale this year.
Close Shot 99 - 55% (hoopdata.com).
Mid-Range Shot 99 - 55% (hoopdata.com).
3PT Shot 99 - 50% (hoopdata.com).
FT 99 - 99% (hoopdata.com).
Pass 99 - 50% Assist Percentage (Basketball-reference.com, under Advanced Stats)
Block 99 - 6% Block Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)
Steal 99 - 5% Steal Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)
Offensive Rebound 99 - 14% Offensive Rebound Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)
Defensive Rebound 99 - 30% Defensive Rebound Percentage (Basketball-reference.com)

Going by last year's stats alone (I go by a 3 year average in my rosters), the following players would get 99's in objective statistical categories. If no one deserved a 99, the highest rated player is listed:

Close Shot - None (Hibbert - 92)
Mid Range - None (Dirk - 94)
3PT - None (Novak - 96)
Passing - Steve Nash, Rajon Rondo
Steal - None (Chris Paul - 84)
Block - Serge Ibaka, Javale McGee, DeAndre Jordan, Ekpe Udoh, Bismack Biyombo)
Offensive Rebounding - Nikola Pekovic, Tristan Thompson, Demarcus Cousins, Joakim Noah
Defensive Rebounding - Dwight Howard, Marcus Camby

I think 2k factors in player reputation and ability as well. Brandon bass might have had a higher mid range % than KD, but we know that KD has the defense play him a certain way. Absolutely no air space, while BBass gets em wide open from Rondo. KD midrange is automatic as seen in the olympics with the short 3 point line..and thats a long 2.

[slimm44]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

Something about that made me laugh more than I needed too.

I try, my man. I try.

I think 2k factors in player reputation and ability as well. Brandon bass might have had a higher mid range % than KD, but we know that KD has the defense play him a certain way. Absolutely no air space, while BBass gets em wide open from Rondo. KD midrange is automatic as seen in the olympics with the short 3 point line..and thats a long 2.

What separates the two with the system 2k uses are the following:

Shoot Off Dribble
Shoot In Traffic
Consistency
Offensive Awareness
Several Tendencies
Several Capabilities
Hot Zones

Durant is going to be better in all of the other "supportive" ratings and capabilities while having the tendencies to ISO, pull-up and take fadeaways, runners and step-back jumpers. Although Bass would technically have a higher Mid-Range Shot rating, he's only going to be able to hit them when he's standing still with nobody around him, as you said, mainly when Rondo is setting him up after drawing the D on a drive. Durant can hit them in nearly any situation. Hence, Durant is actually the better mid-range shooter, despite the rating.

[WarriorPrince]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

I try, my man. I try.



What separates the two with the ratings 2k uses are the following:

Shoot Off Dribble
Shoot In Traffic
Consistency
Offensive Awareness
Several Tendencies
Several Capabilities
Hot Zones

Durant is going to be better in all of the other "supportive" ratings and capabilities while having the tendencies to ISO, pull-up and take fadeaways, runners and step-back jumpers. Although Bass would technically have a higher Mid-Range Shot rating, he's only going to be able to hit them when he's standing still with nobody around him, as you said, mainly when Rondo is setting him up after drawing the D on a drive. Durant can hit them in nearly any situation. Hence, Durant is actually the better mid-range shooter, despite the rating.

You know your stuff. Finally, someone who understands the engine and doesn't just bitch about ratings.

[Colts18]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

You dudes are just throwing numbers around with no type of basis at all.

[thilanwij]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

I think they should leave space for progress and not have anyone get a 99 attribute on a rating, maybe like a 97/98 at most, cuz 99 is like PERFECT basically. There are only a few that should have that. There are a lot of good guys who can have those attributes, but i 99 is basically they're the master of that attribute. I'm sure they should leave at least some room for improvement, or else they'll just stop working on those skills in real life. Idk but that's just me. Just only a few exceptions for that 99, not many.

[thilanwij]

Re: Players you predict/should have a 99 in their attributes

I disagree with that list completely.. For one Kevin Love is the best rebounder in the entire nba, he should at least be 99 on defensive rebounds.. I also don't think Novak is the best shooter in the NBA.. He just gets the open looks because he's absolutely terrible LOL.. I understand you went by the stat based system but stats don't tell the entire story..