If 2k wants to make association mode good, they need to focus on logic and reasoning

[241mavsrule]

Re: If 2k wants to make association mode good, they need to focus on logic and reason

huge fan of that austin rivers scenario where the percentage chances would be based of some sort of potential rating. But would how good they would be be based off of their play?? or completely random

[JasonMartin]

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when his market price was 8 million. I know he could never get that much money, but if he could, J.R. would go get it.

Really? There are enough teams in this league that would and could pay this guy that amount per season. Especially the way he's been playing this year. If he keeps his head straight, he will.

I wonder what the Knicks will offer him next year. He bought into the team, the city and knows this is his only chance for a title. I respect him for that, he could have been making much more money the last couple of years. I wish there were more players who would make such a move.

[JasonMartin]

Re: If 2k wants to make association mode good, they need to focus on logic and reason

You got to choose your team direction (Rebuild, Compete, and Contend)

I would love to see the association mode get an overhaul so I'm all for it.

But in 2K it seems, even if I use the Bobcats I can still make the playoffs . Lets take a "struggling" team like the Lakers or Dallas (rebuild mode/inbetween/waiting for an FA like Howard), that's a guaranteed playoff spot. The game should "hold" you back in a way, I don't know how to explain it properly though.

They have to make the game more realistic, ratings, players match up.


I want to see Lebron and Wade dominate in the 4th quarter when all the players from the Bobcats are dead tired and can't make a basket.

[kwabalicious]

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I would love to see the association mode get an overhaul so I'm all for it.

But in 2K it seems, even if I use the Bobcats I can still make the playoffs . Lets take a "struggling" team like the Lakers or Dallas (rebuild mode/inbetween/waiting for an FA like Howard), that's a guaranteed playoff spot. The game should "hold" you back in a way, I don't know how to explain it properly though.

They have to make the game more realistic, ratings, players match up.


I want to see Lebron and Wade dominate in the 4th quarter when all the players from the Bobcats are dead tired and can't make a basket.

Speaking of that, and this is more gameplay than anything, but LeBron, Wade, Durant, etc. Aren't great players because of their ability to dunk over everyone. In the paint, their should be more contact animations resulting in blocks, layups, and fouls. Guys like Lebron and KD shouldn't be dunking over everyone, but rather finishing more difficult contact layups.

[Amfanda]

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I really like the idea of players not working out or being sleeps in the 2nd round.

[SPRINGS03]

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Another flaw in association that really needs to be addressed is the rotation logic, it's horrible. Why the hell would the clippers have blake griffin starting at center just to have grant hill starting and have deandre jordan on the bench? That's just flat out stupid. It's been this way for years though.

[Ejfalcon9]

I would love to see the association mode get an overhaul so I'm all for it.

But in 2K it seems, even if I use the Bobcats I can still make the playoffs . Lets take a "struggling" team like the Lakers or Dallas (rebuild mode/inbetween/waiting for an FA like Howard), that's a guaranteed playoff spot. The game should "hold" you back in a way, I don't know how to explain it properly though.

They have to make the game more realistic, ratings, players match up.


I want to see Lebron and Wade dominate in the 4th quarter when all the players from the Bobcats are dead tired and can't make a basket.

THIS! I can't even play my actual games in association because like you said You can literally win in year 1 with the Bobcats if you tried. I've just had to sim seasons in my rebuild associations acting as GM simming games. Even using that method it is still pretty lame because if you free up enough cap space you can easily get a Chris Paul or whoever is on the market. I usually have to screw my own team over in order to keep realism. Why on earth would Chris Paul leave Lob City to join my struggling Raptors just because we offered him 2 million more?




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[kwabalicious]

Re: If 2k wants to make association mode good, they need to focus on logic and reason

Really? There are enough teams in this league that would and could pay this guy that amount per season. Especially the way he's been playing this year. If he keeps his head straight, he will.

I wonder what the Knicks will offer him next year. He bought into the team, the city and knows this is his only chance for a title. I respect him for that, he could have been making much more money the last couple of years. I wish there were more players who would make such a move.

Yeah. At Smith's age, he doesn't have much value. Really, he is just an inefficient chucker that shoots 40 percent. No young, rebuilding team needs that at his age. No older team needs that at a high price.

I'll use Monta Ellis as an example. He's having a bad year, but really, Monta is a more efficient scorer/chucker. If Monta opts out of his 11 million dollar contract, who is going to want him at a high price at his age? He is known to hog the ball, which is only really wanted on treadmill teams that are just out of the playoffs. People like that are cancerous to bad teams' development, and are cancerous to a good team as well. If he wants to go to a good team, I can see him getting a 6 or 7 million dollar contract to be a bench spark on a playoff team, but that's it. There really isn't that much of a market for players like JR Smith or Monta Ellis who are inefficient scorers that are older and don't have the star label. I can see the Raptors or the Suns signing guys like them to 8 million dollar contracts (treadmill teams) just to sell tickets, but that's really it.

[javicd21]

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something i want to see is small market teams not being able to go over the salary cap right away. Like on MLB The Show 12, teams like the cubs have a team cap that you cant exceed. That would make you think how to spend your money smart, and you won't get teams like the pistons getting CP3 or Howard.

[theascetichope]

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I think it's time for sports games to add in a work ethic attribute, maybe under a different title to avoid a potential slander lawsuit from a player(s), to help factor in with player development. Now I'm just a spectator and I honestly don't know that much about players work ethic, aside from the stories that commentators and other media give about certain instances where a player worked hard. I'm sure every NBA or a vast majority work really hard on their craft and this is not an attempt discredit an individuals work ethic at all. There's clearly some players that do work harder than others and there's obviously less talented players that work way harder than another player who is a lot more talented than them.

If you have a player that has all-star or even superstar level talent but poor work ethic in real life, how good is that guy really going to get? For NBA 2k13, he probably gets to 90 overall and dominates the NBA. There needs to be a system where a player can only access his full potential with an extremely high work ethic. A player can certainly improve their work ethic with good a good coaching staff behind them as well as off season workouts. Also you should be able to improve their work ethic in the off season, not by much of course. It would also help simulate the players that need to mature, Cousins for example, to help them reach their true potential.

I have yet to expand on this idea and give solid examples and rough simulations of a particular players career and how he would develop over the years. So, it's a pretty rough idea.

[theascetichope]

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something i want to see is small market teams not being able to go over the salary cap right away. Like on MLB The Show 12, teams like the cubs have a team cap that you cant exceed. That would make you think how to spend your money smart, and you won't get teams like the pistons getting CP3 or Howard.

There definitely needs to be a per team basis on how much of the cap each individual team can spend. If you're able to consistently make the playoffs and be more than a first round exit for a few years, making the organization more money over time, then after a couple years the owners could potentially let you spend more money. I think certain teams really need to have great success in order to allow you to spend.

Very good idea and in the NBA, something extremely similar to this needs to be in the game.

[tetoleetd]

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Yeah. At Smith's age, he doesn't have much value. Really, he is just an inefficient chucker that shoots 40 percent. No young, rebuilding team needs that at his age. No older team needs that at a high price.

I'll use Monta Ellis as an example. He's having a bad year, but really, Monta is a more efficient scorer/chucker. If Monta opts out of his 11 million dollar contract, who is going to want him at a high price at his age? He is known to hog the ball, which is only really wanted on treadmill teams that are just out of the playoffs. People like that are cancerous to bad teams' development, and are cancerous to a good team as well. If he wants to go to a good team, I can see him getting a 6 or 7 million dollar contract to be a bench spark on a playoff team, but that's it. There really isn't that much of a market for players like JR Smith or Monta Ellis who are inefficient scorers that are older and don't have the star label. I can see the Raptors or the Suns signing guys like them to 8 million dollar contracts (treadmill teams) just to sell tickets, but that's really it.

i agree with what you're saying but i dont understand why you keep harping on their ages. they are both 27 and in the prime of their careers.

[Ejfalcon9]

Another thing I thought of. Bring back an effective D League. Even when it did little to nothing if I had a low rated rookie I wanted to develop ,but they were in the way of me signing an effective Free Agent, I'd stash him on the D League team to keep him around and develop him. Now I'm left with either make do with my team as is or cut my rook. I even at one point towards the end of 2k12 found a roster with an entire accurate D League. Went through a season with the Reno Bighorns and had a blast.


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[ghettogeeksta]

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I just hope they have ignored the Association mode for the last few years because they are overhauling it.

[timmio1990]

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Getting rid if the D league to me shows how casual they are making the game.