Disgusted of what I just heard...

**Lonestar210** · 10-23-2003, 10:29 PM

Re: Disgusted of what I just heard...

Almost everything if forgiveable. Unless Kobe went out and murdered 10 people he deserves to be forgiven for his affair. If your dad cheated on your mom would you stay mad at him forever?

**Tayze** · 10-23-2003, 10:30 PM

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QuickSilverK, i understand what youre trying to say but why cant people cheer for him as a basketball player. I agree with the others about the innocent till proven guilty argument, but why cant people cheer for him as a basketball player. There are people in which i dont like some of the things that they do in their personal lives but i like them as athletes as far as ability goes. So while i do feel that adultery is really bad, that doesnt mean its wrong to cheer for him as a basketball player. Personally i've never been a Kobe fan but i respect his ability even though i disagree with some of his personal actions.

**Tayze** · 10-23-2003, 10:30 PM

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QuickSilverK, i understand what youre trying to say but why cant people cheer for him as a basketball player. I agree with the others about the innocent till proven guilty argument, but why cant people cheer for him as a basketball player. There are people in which i dont like some of the things that they do in their personal lives but i like them as athletes as far as ability goes. So while i do feel that adultery is really bad, that doesnt mean its wrong to cheer for him as a basketball player. Personally i've never been a Kobe fan but i respect his ability even though i disagree with some of his personal actions.

**Tayze** · 10-23-2003, 10:30 PM

Re: Disgusted of what I just heard...

QuickSilverK, i understand what youre trying to say but why cant people cheer for him as a basketball player. I agree with the others about the innocent till proven guilty argument, but why cant people cheer for him as a basketball player. There are people in which i dont like some of the things that they do in their personal lives but i like them as athletes as far as ability goes. So while i do feel that adultery is really bad, that doesnt mean its wrong to cheer for him as a basketball player. Personally i've never been a Kobe fan but i respect his ability even though i disagree with some of his personal actions.

**SoMiss2000** · 10-23-2003, 10:30 PM

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And for the comment about her being a hoe. That's just wrong, Kobe is more of the whore than her, is she married? No she's not Kobe is. We don't KNOW anything about her everything we've heard about her has been hearsay, but we KNOW for a fact 2 things about Kobe 1. he's a liar 2. He's an adulterer. He admitted that he's an adulterer and he lied about it at first so those two FACTS are undisputable.

<hr /></blockquote>He admitted to the world that he's an adulterer. He first confessed to his wife then to the world. As long as HIS WIFE accepts this and is standing by his side, it should be of no concern to us. The same with Micheal and Juanita Jordan. You guys are the ones who put these professional athletes on a pedestal. That's the first mistake our society makes. You think these guys are perfect. Guess what? They're not! They're human just like you and I. People thought Barkley was crazy when he came out with his infamous "I am not a role model" commercial. I didn't really understand what he meant until I was older. Some people who are surprised by the things these guys get caught up in are still trying to get this concept.

**SoMiss2000** · 10-23-2003, 10:30 PM

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And for the comment about her being a hoe. That's just wrong, Kobe is more of the whore than her, is she married? No she's not Kobe is. We don't KNOW anything about her everything we've heard about her has been hearsay, but we KNOW for a fact 2 things about Kobe 1. he's a liar 2. He's an adulterer. He admitted that he's an adulterer and he lied about it at first so those two FACTS are undisputable.

<hr /></blockquote>He admitted to the world that he's an adulterer. He first confessed to his wife then to the world. As long as HIS WIFE accepts this and is standing by his side, it should be of no concern to us. The same with Micheal and Juanita Jordan. You guys are the ones who put these professional athletes on a pedestal. That's the first mistake our society makes. You think these guys are perfect. Guess what? They're not! They're human just like you and I. People thought Barkley was crazy when he came out with his infamous "I am not a role model" commercial. I didn't really understand what he meant until I was older. Some people who are surprised by the things these guys get caught up in are still trying to get this concept.

**SoMiss2000** · 10-23-2003, 10:30 PM

Re: Disgusted of what I just heard...

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And for the comment about her being a hoe. That's just wrong, Kobe is more of the whore than her, is she married? No she's not Kobe is. We don't KNOW anything about her everything we've heard about her has been hearsay, but we KNOW for a fact 2 things about Kobe 1. he's a liar 2. He's an adulterer. He admitted that he's an adulterer and he lied about it at first so those two FACTS are undisputable.

<hr /></blockquote>He admitted to the world that he's an adulterer. He first confessed to his wife then to the world. As long as HIS WIFE accepts this and is standing by his side, it should be of no concern to us. The same with Micheal and Juanita Jordan. You guys are the ones who put these professional athletes on a pedestal. That's the first mistake our society makes. You think these guys are perfect. Guess what? They're not! They're human just like you and I. People thought Barkley was crazy when he came out with his infamous "I am not a role model" commercial. I didn't really understand what he meant until I was older. Some people who are surprised by the things these guys get caught up in are still trying to get this concept.

**SoMiss2000** · 10-23-2003, 10:32 PM

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Has he been proven guilty yet? NO? Why are you disgusted that they are cheering for him? If youre a fan of Kobe, why not cheer for him? In America, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

Im a Kobe fan, and if I decide to cheer for him, thats my business. Until its proven that he committed the crime, keep your mouth shut.

<hr /></blockquote> . Even if he didn't rape her he's still a scumbag. So you need to shut your mouth.

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Just calling him a scumbag when you dont even know him proves how ignorant and bias you are. Do you know Kobe Bryant personally? How would you know hes a scumbag. I dont know him personally either, I admit he has done things that are wrong in his personal life, but I dont care about that.

I care about him as a basketball player, nothing more. Jordan cheated on his wife, so did Magic, would that make me any less of a fan of them? NO it wouldnt. So what, Jordan is a scumbag now? We're all not perfect, we all [censored you naughty boy] up in life, so until he is proven GUILTY...STFU!

<hr /></blockquote> Yes ANYONE who cheats on their WIFE (someone they commited their life to) is a scumbag. I used to be a huge Jordan fan now I can't stand him. Judging from the way you defend Kobe you'd probably think it's ok to cheat on your wife, you may even feel it's ok to rape someone if you felt they acted like they wanted it. And you STFU comment was real mature bud. Good way of solidifying your arguement with that.

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So you hate Jordan because of what he did in his personal life? Something that is none of your business.

We all make mistakes buddy, face it. So would you despise your co workers or fellow studens because of what they do in their personal life? Just the fact that you judge somebody based on business that is not yours proves how ignorant you are.

<hr /></blockquote> Yes anyone that has made a lifelong commitment to another in front of god, that's what marriage is, do you understand that concept? Is a scumbag in my eyes. I'd feel that way if they're professional athlete or a bagger at a grocery store, I know everyone makes mistakes but some things in life are unforgivable to me, adultery is one of them.

<hr /></blockquote>They way I look at guys that cheat on their spouse is, that is something that's between the guy, his wife, and God. We shouldn't be ones to judge.

**SoMiss2000** · 10-23-2003, 10:32 PM

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Has he been proven guilty yet? NO? Why are you disgusted that they are cheering for him? If youre a fan of Kobe, why not cheer for him? In America, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

Im a Kobe fan, and if I decide to cheer for him, thats my business. Until its proven that he committed the crime, keep your mouth shut.

<hr /></blockquote> . Even if he didn't rape her he's still a scumbag. So you need to shut your mouth.

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Just calling him a scumbag when you dont even know him proves how ignorant and bias you are. Do you know Kobe Bryant personally? How would you know hes a scumbag. I dont know him personally either, I admit he has done things that are wrong in his personal life, but I dont care about that.

I care about him as a basketball player, nothing more. Jordan cheated on his wife, so did Magic, would that make me any less of a fan of them? NO it wouldnt. So what, Jordan is a scumbag now? We're all not perfect, we all [censored you naughty boy] up in life, so until he is proven GUILTY...STFU!

<hr /></blockquote> Yes ANYONE who cheats on their WIFE (someone they commited their life to) is a scumbag. I used to be a huge Jordan fan now I can't stand him. Judging from the way you defend Kobe you'd probably think it's ok to cheat on your wife, you may even feel it's ok to rape someone if you felt they acted like they wanted it. And you STFU comment was real mature bud. Good way of solidifying your arguement with that.

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So you hate Jordan because of what he did in his personal life? Something that is none of your business.

We all make mistakes buddy, face it. So would you despise your co workers or fellow studens because of what they do in their personal life? Just the fact that you judge somebody based on business that is not yours proves how ignorant you are.

<hr /></blockquote> Yes anyone that has made a lifelong commitment to another in front of god, that's what marriage is, do you understand that concept? Is a scumbag in my eyes. I'd feel that way if they're professional athlete or a bagger at a grocery store, I know everyone makes mistakes but some things in life are unforgivable to me, adultery is one of them.

<hr /></blockquote>They way I look at guys that cheat on their spouse is, that is something that's between the guy, his wife, and God. We shouldn't be ones to judge.

**SoMiss2000** · 10-23-2003, 10:32 PM

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Has he been proven guilty yet? NO? Why are you disgusted that they are cheering for him? If youre a fan of Kobe, why not cheer for him? In America, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

Im a Kobe fan, and if I decide to cheer for him, thats my business. Until its proven that he committed the crime, keep your mouth shut.

<hr /></blockquote> . Even if he didn't rape her he's still a scumbag. So you need to shut your mouth.

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Just calling him a scumbag when you dont even know him proves how ignorant and bias you are. Do you know Kobe Bryant personally? How would you know hes a scumbag. I dont know him personally either, I admit he has done things that are wrong in his personal life, but I dont care about that.

I care about him as a basketball player, nothing more. Jordan cheated on his wife, so did Magic, would that make me any less of a fan of them? NO it wouldnt. So what, Jordan is a scumbag now? We're all not perfect, we all [censored you naughty boy] up in life, so until he is proven GUILTY...STFU!

<hr /></blockquote> Yes ANYONE who cheats on their WIFE (someone they commited their life to) is a scumbag. I used to be a huge Jordan fan now I can't stand him. Judging from the way you defend Kobe you'd probably think it's ok to cheat on your wife, you may even feel it's ok to rape someone if you felt they acted like they wanted it. And you STFU comment was real mature bud. Good way of solidifying your arguement with that.

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So you hate Jordan because of what he did in his personal life? Something that is none of your business.

We all make mistakes buddy, face it. So would you despise your co workers or fellow studens because of what they do in their personal life? Just the fact that you judge somebody based on business that is not yours proves how ignorant you are.

<hr /></blockquote> Yes anyone that has made a lifelong commitment to another in front of god, that's what marriage is, do you understand that concept? Is a scumbag in my eyes. I'd feel that way if they're professional athlete or a bagger at a grocery store, I know everyone makes mistakes but some things in life are unforgivable to me, adultery is one of them.

<hr /></blockquote>They way I look at guys that cheat on their spouse is, that is something that's between the guy, his wife, and God. We shouldn't be ones to judge.

**49ersPhreak** · 10-23-2003, 10:34 PM

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Has he been proven guilty yet? NO? Why are you disgusted that they are cheering for him? If youre a fan of Kobe, why not cheer for him? In America, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

Im a Kobe fan, and if I decide to cheer for him, thats my business. Until its proven that he committed the crime, keep your mouth shut.

<hr /></blockquote> . Even if he didn't rape her he's still a scumbag. So you need to shut your mouth.

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Just calling him a scumbag when you dont even know him proves how ignorant and bias you are. Do you know Kobe Bryant personally? How would you know hes a scumbag. I dont know him personally either, I admit he has done things that are wrong in his personal life, but I dont care about that.

I care about him as a basketball player, nothing more. Jordan cheated on his wife, so did Magic, would that make me any less of a fan of them? NO it wouldnt. So what, Jordan is a scumbag now? We're all not perfect, we all [censored you naughty boy] up in life, so until he is proven GUILTY...STFU!

<hr /></blockquote> Yes ANYONE who cheats on their WIFE (someone they commited their life to) is a scumbag. I used to be a huge Jordan fan now I can't stand him. Judging from the way you defend Kobe you'd probably think it's ok to cheat on your wife, you may even feel it's ok to rape someone if you felt they acted like they wanted it. And you STFU comment was real mature bud. Good way of solidifying your arguement with that.

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So you hate Jordan because of what he did in his personal life? Something that is none of your business.

We all make mistakes buddy, face it. So would you despise your co workers or fellow studens because of what they do in their personal life? Just the fact that you judge somebody based on business that is not yours proves how ignorant you are.

<hr /></blockquote> Yes anyone that has made a lifelong commitment to another in front of god, that's what marriage is, do you understand that concept? Is a scumbag in my eyes. I'd feel that way if they're professional athlete or a bagger at a grocery store, I know everyone makes mistakes but some things in life are unforgivable to me, adultery is one of them.

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Basically that shows how closed minded you are. You are judging people you do not know, based on what is their business. If you knew them, Id totally understand you. Without speaking a word to somebody, you can hate them just because they comitted a mistake? If this were murder or rape, I think that would be unforgivable. But adultery is something that is not unforgivable to me. We both differ, I can see why you would look at that as unforgivable, but hating somebody because of that is whats weird to me. Different strokes for different folks I guess, Ill be back in this thread if its still up, Im gonna finish watching Kobe "innocent until proven guilty" Bryant and the rest of the Lakers.

**49ersPhreak** · 10-23-2003, 10:34 PM

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Has he been proven guilty yet? NO? Why are you disgusted that they are cheering for him? If youre a fan of Kobe, why not cheer for him? In America, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

Im a Kobe fan, and if I decide to cheer for him, thats my business. Until its proven that he committed the crime, keep your mouth shut.

<hr /></blockquote> . Even if he didn't rape her he's still a scumbag. So you need to shut your mouth.

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Just calling him a scumbag when you dont even know him proves how ignorant and bias you are. Do you know Kobe Bryant personally? How would you know hes a scumbag. I dont know him personally either, I admit he has done things that are wrong in his personal life, but I dont care about that.

I care about him as a basketball player, nothing more. Jordan cheated on his wife, so did Magic, would that make me any less of a fan of them? NO it wouldnt. So what, Jordan is a scumbag now? We're all not perfect, we all [censored you naughty boy] up in life, so until he is proven GUILTY...STFU!

<hr /></blockquote> Yes ANYONE who cheats on their WIFE (someone they commited their life to) is a scumbag. I used to be a huge Jordan fan now I can't stand him. Judging from the way you defend Kobe you'd probably think it's ok to cheat on your wife, you may even feel it's ok to rape someone if you felt they acted like they wanted it. And you STFU comment was real mature bud. Good way of solidifying your arguement with that.

<hr /></blockquote>

So you hate Jordan because of what he did in his personal life? Something that is none of your business.

We all make mistakes buddy, face it. So would you despise your co workers or fellow studens because of what they do in their personal life? Just the fact that you judge somebody based on business that is not yours proves how ignorant you are.

<hr /></blockquote> Yes anyone that has made a lifelong commitment to another in front of god, that's what marriage is, do you understand that concept? Is a scumbag in my eyes. I'd feel that way if they're professional athlete or a bagger at a grocery store, I know everyone makes mistakes but some things in life are unforgivable to me, adultery is one of them.

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Basically that shows how closed minded you are. You are judging people you do not know, based on what is their business. If you knew them, Id totally understand you. Without speaking a word to somebody, you can hate them just because they comitted a mistake? If this were murder or rape, I think that would be unforgivable. But adultery is something that is not unforgivable to me. We both differ, I can see why you would look at that as unforgivable, but hating somebody because of that is whats weird to me. Different strokes for different folks I guess, Ill be back in this thread if its still up, Im gonna finish watching Kobe "innocent until proven guilty" Bryant and the rest of the Lakers.

**49ersPhreak** · 10-23-2003, 10:34 PM

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Has he been proven guilty yet? NO? Why are you disgusted that they are cheering for him? If youre a fan of Kobe, why not cheer for him? In America, we are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

Im a Kobe fan, and if I decide to cheer for him, thats my business. Until its proven that he committed the crime, keep your mouth shut.

<hr /></blockquote> . Even if he didn't rape her he's still a scumbag. So you need to shut your mouth.

<hr /></blockquote>

Just calling him a scumbag when you dont even know him proves how ignorant and bias you are. Do you know Kobe Bryant personally? How would you know hes a scumbag. I dont know him personally either, I admit he has done things that are wrong in his personal life, but I dont care about that.

I care about him as a basketball player, nothing more. Jordan cheated on his wife, so did Magic, would that make me any less of a fan of them? NO it wouldnt. So what, Jordan is a scumbag now? We're all not perfect, we all [censored you naughty boy] up in life, so until he is proven GUILTY...STFU!

<hr /></blockquote> Yes ANYONE who cheats on their WIFE (someone they commited their life to) is a scumbag. I used to be a huge Jordan fan now I can't stand him. Judging from the way you defend Kobe you'd probably think it's ok to cheat on your wife, you may even feel it's ok to rape someone if you felt they acted like they wanted it. And you STFU comment was real mature bud. Good way of solidifying your arguement with that.

<hr /></blockquote>

So you hate Jordan because of what he did in his personal life? Something that is none of your business.

We all make mistakes buddy, face it. So would you despise your co workers or fellow studens because of what they do in their personal life? Just the fact that you judge somebody based on business that is not yours proves how ignorant you are.

<hr /></blockquote> Yes anyone that has made a lifelong commitment to another in front of god, that's what marriage is, do you understand that concept? Is a scumbag in my eyes. I'd feel that way if they're professional athlete or a bagger at a grocery store, I know everyone makes mistakes but some things in life are unforgivable to me, adultery is one of them.

<hr /></blockquote>

Basically that shows how closed minded you are. You are judging people you do not know, based on what is their business. If you knew them, Id totally understand you. Without speaking a word to somebody, you can hate them just because they comitted a mistake? If this were murder or rape, I think that would be unforgivable. But adultery is something that is not unforgivable to me. We both differ, I can see why you would look at that as unforgivable, but hating somebody because of that is whats weird to me. Different strokes for different folks I guess, Ill be back in this thread if its still up, Im gonna finish watching Kobe "innocent until proven guilty" Bryant and the rest of the Lakers.

**QuickSilverK** · 10-23-2003, 10:35 PM

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The Trick was a hoe, looking for a little change....

I never liked Kobe.. but I am with him on this one...

Last time I checked.. In America I think.. You are innocent until proven guilty!!!!

<hr /></blockquote> LOL good one she lives in one of the wealthiest counties in colorado her family is well off, money was not the motivation for this, buttwipe. And at no point did I say he was guilty. But they SHOULD NOT be portraying him as the victim, cause the if's and maybe's about his guiltiness also go for his innocence too.

<hr /></blockquote>If he's found innocent he is the victim, is he not? He's already lost his Nike contract. They bought it out for 1.5 million.

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LOL good one she lives in one of the wealthiest counties in colorado her family is well off

<hr /></blockquote> These types of girls usually are the biggest sluts.

<hr /></blockquote> Yeah because judging by your pic you've been around a TON of wealthy white girls.

That comment of yours is as bad as me saying "most people on welfare are black" or "hey do indians still scalp people if they trespass on their reservations?" I expected better from you SoMiss. And boo hoo someone who's richer than everyone on this board put together only got 1.5 million of his contract. How can you feel sorry for this SOB, if he'd of kept it in his pants we wouldn't even be having this discussion. You prolly feel sorry for drunk drivers who kill people too, with your rational. Don't feel sorry for Kobe HE put HIMSELF in this situation, he has noone to blame but himself.

**QuickSilverK** · 10-23-2003, 10:35 PM

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The Trick was a hoe, looking for a little change....

I never liked Kobe.. but I am with him on this one...

Last time I checked.. In America I think.. You are innocent until proven guilty!!!!

<hr /></blockquote> LOL good one she lives in one of the wealthiest counties in colorado her family is well off, money was not the motivation for this, buttwipe. And at no point did I say he was guilty. But they SHOULD NOT be portraying him as the victim, cause the if's and maybe's about his guiltiness also go for his innocence too.

<hr /></blockquote>If he's found innocent he is the victim, is he not? He's already lost his Nike contract. They bought it out for 1.5 million.

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LOL good one she lives in one of the wealthiest counties in colorado her family is well off

<hr /></blockquote> These types of girls usually are the biggest sluts.

<hr /></blockquote> Yeah because judging by your pic you've been around a TON of wealthy white girls.

That comment of yours is as bad as me saying "most people on welfare are black" or "hey do indians still scalp people if they trespass on their reservations?" I expected better from you SoMiss. And boo hoo someone who's richer than everyone on this board put together only got 1.5 million of his contract. How can you feel sorry for this SOB, if he'd of kept it in his pants we wouldn't even be having this discussion. You prolly feel sorry for drunk drivers who kill people too, with your rational. Don't feel sorry for Kobe HE put HIMSELF in this situation, he has noone to blame but himself.

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