Another age limit thread...

[Rocky]

I know we have been through this argument many times...but now that we are nearly 7 years into the one and done rule and in the light of recent events, I think we should revisit whether this rule helped the NBA, NCAA, and the athletes.

I think without question it's helped the NBA. They are the clear winners here and if they're weren't any players union they would probably extend the limit to 20. Teams haven't drafted perfectly because of college but they are much improved with seeing prospects play on a national stage. From a marketing perspective, you now have guys like Kevin Durant and Anthony Davis who only hardcore fans would've knew if they had entered they entered the NBA out of high school, that are pop culture icons even before they've played a game.

Thoughts?

[RapboY]

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Voted Good for NBA, bad for players and NCAA.

It's really bad for the NCAA because colleges don't really get the chance to develop their systems when their best players only play for a year, which is really really short if you think about it.

It's bad for the players for the most part because they don't get to finish their education, which is really important especially after their careers. But usually they do get to earn big money right away, so it's not all that bad for them.

It's good for the NBA because it gets new blood quicker, new hype, mostly good stuff. They do get less experienced players this way, but there's the D-League now so it doesn't affect the league as much as it did before.

So a simple compromise would be make it at least 2 years college, no?

[DoubleDeuce]

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I hate it. It's unAmercan. Should go with the baseball rule. You can go pro right away. If you go to college, stay 3 years. College basketball is now a farce.

[return.specialist]

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Guys should be able to play in the D-League as graduates of high school. Although I personally would like to see players play for four years at the collegiate level and earn bachelor's degrees in basketball. This would include general education coursework of course, as any other major, but the core classes would be focused around basketball theory and strategy, nutrition and physiology, leadership in practice and sports psychology. In my opinion, we expect this in any other profession, but because it's athletics, it seems as though people may consider it unnecessary. Given it puts these guys at the increased risk for injury, but that's a hazard of the path they've chosen.

[bigbob]

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Should have probably put a "Good for all parties involved" in the poll.

[ehh]

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Certainly been good for the NBA, since the rule kicked in there have been so many highly touted HS recruits that would have likely gone pro out of HS that didn't pan out and weren't even standout college players. They would have been more dreadful lottery picks that set franchises back a few more years.

For the NCAA, its game has been a mess before the age limit rule came into effect and UK has abided by those rules and turned college basketball into even more of a mess. The entire developmental process in this country is a mess. Not sure it's going to be fixed for a very long time (a la a European system).

I would like to see the age limit be at least 2 years out of HS. The one-and-done really wreaks havoc on the continuity of some powerhouse programs, not that they're being forced to take the stud recruits.

[NYJets]

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I think generally its been good for all involved but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better. Definitely been better for the NBA. Generally good for the players too but I guess it depends on the individual. I don't think its really helped NCAA but I don't think its really hurt it either. Either way, the days of the best players staying 3 or 4 years were pretty much over. There's just a few more one year players now than before the rule. I would also like to see the rule expanded to 2 years

The baseball rule works well for baseball, don't like it for the NBA though. I think a lot of HS players who aren't ready would try and make the jump in fear of being "stuck" in college for 3 years. Baseball has a much larger development system, and a much longer draft. They have no problem drafting guys knowing they aren't going to play in the major leagues for at least 3 years

[return.specialist]

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I also would welcome the idea of guys being drafted out of highschool, but then playing a few years in college or the D-League if necessary for a year or two. Thus the 'right' to a player is owned by the drafting team much like in baseball. Players could be awarded some amount of gaurenteed money that would be paid in the event their pro-team elects not to bring them into the League. While this would not be millions or even half a million, but I would provide 'busts' some monetary compensation without having ever played in the League while still being able to retain collegiate elligibility. The issue here is the NCAA restrictions, in my opinion, because the NBA LOVES stats and numbers and some sort of minor league system would provide them with even more information.

[ehh]

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^ That still leaves the door open for idiotic GM's to reach on 18-19 year old HS kids they really don't know much about.

If a rule like that was in place teams would still roll the dice like crazy on high schoolers hoping they hit the jackpot, even if they wouldn't be in their organization for a couple of years. Guys like BJ Mullens and Josh Selby would have been Top 5 picks.

[Jukeman]

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Before the cream of the crop it was pretty much rare for a high schooler to be a top 5 pick. (They weren't even asked to be immediate franchise players then neither; 10 guys out of only 42 HS players have been drafted top 5)

Keep in mind, Kwame was the first ever #1 pick taken out of High school.

Its not fair to even say most of the one & done guys would still be high picks if they came out of HS. Its no past history to base that projection on. One of the main reason most of the one & done guys are high picks is because of the exposer on TV every night and during the March Madness campaigns. The top players in college are nationally known after one year in college. (Marketable)

Guys like Rose, Durant (maybe not as he was a stick), etc would still be highly touted coming out of HS though.

I also never understood the narrative of "because bum HS players skip college and declare early missing out in development and education" there are just as many bum 4 year players as well. I rather have a young player I can develop in the D league than a 22 year old who would most likely max out his potential at 26 and fade away overseas somewhere.

Also underclassmen finish school all the time. Its not broadcasted much and you'll most likely have to read articles to find these things out but most of these guys are back in school.

I mean that have to be a better option than staying in college for 4 years majoring in some Liberal Arts just to try and stay eligible to play and then graduate and end up becoming an hobo in Europe trying to play for Barca right?

I also can't really say its been better for the NBA. The NBA always had it ups and downs. But its no coincidence that the top players are one & done guys and not Jr's and Sr's.

[da ThRONe]

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The only benefit to the NBA is hype created during that one college year. Which can easily be created in this era of technology. All other parties lose. Especially college basketball who spend a year hyping these special athletes only to have them walk the very same year.

[NDAlum]

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It's stupid to have any age limit other than 18 or a graduate of high school.

What are the graduation rates of the top tier college programs anyways? It's not like they actually go to school to learn.

For the players who claim they have to feed their families let them to make money in the professional ranks. I want this applied to all sports personally.


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