Western Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

[jeebs9]

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Those numbers actually make it worse. I'm just saying when you give up

108, 99, 128, 121 and 94 in consecutive games, whether you win or not clearly the other team is doing something that you simply can't figure out how to stop on defense. Hence giving you fits on that side of the ball.

That's basically what I was trying to show. That is a lot of points to give up.

[coogrfan]

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Saw this on another board:



You the man, Phil.

[jeebs9]

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But I think for Houston to have any chance of winning. They have to win one of the first 2 games at warriors. That could be said about every series. But it's more about building confidence. Like the Clippers series.

[jeebs9]

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Saw this on another board:



You the man, Phil.

Where are these teams in terms of defensive defensively

[DJ_Solis]

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Under 45% from the field (including 30% from deep) for three out of five games and under 40% in two of those.



Again, a pretty liberal use of the term "fits". Just one man's opinion tho.

You can say fits, problems or that the Houston was just straight up bad. It doesn't really matter to me how you word it. Looking at the stats make it seem even worse now considering how reliant the Mavs were on the three. Holding that team to 31% on one of their biggest strengths should lead to better results than it did.
Mavs ended with an offensive rating of 106.1, which would rank as a top 10 offense. Looking at it the other way, a team with a defensive rating that Houston had in that series would rank as the 5th worst in the regular season this year. And the numbers get even worse looking at the Clippers series.
Again it didn't really matter in this series because Dallas' defense was worse but Houston's defense was given some problems.
I agree with your other post though. I thought DMo was fantastic this year and he often went uncredited.


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3s arent the reason those teams have been winning though.

[coogrfan]

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3s arent the reason those teams have been winning though.

How so? The teams that have averaged the most 3 pt atts are also the final four. That can't be a coincidence.

[jeebs9]

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How so? The teams that have averaged the most 3 pt atts are also the final four. That can't be a coincidence.

That's why I ask where are these teams when it comes to defense.

[coogrfan]

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Where are these teams in terms of defensive defensively

Don't know, don't care. I just want to enjoy poking a little fun at The Zen Master.

[coogrfan]

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That's why I ask where are these teams when it comes to defense.

1 T Cleveland 92.6 allowed per game

3 Golden State 94.2

4 Atlanta 95.7

15 Houston 111.5

[JazzMan]

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Wouldn't the second round skew those stats a little bit? Of course they're going to shoot more threes than teams that lost in the first round.

[DJ_Solis]

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That's why I ask where are these teams when it comes to defense.

GS, Atlanta and Houston were among the top defenses in the regular season. Cleveland was average but has looked better in the playoffs.
Phil made this remark when each of these teams were down 2-1. I guess he was trying to prove a point but it kind of backfired lol


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[coogrfan]

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Wouldn't the second round skew those stats a little bit? Of course they're going to shoot more threes than teams that lost in the first round.

The stats listed are per game, not total.

[DJ_Solis]

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Wouldn't the second round skew those stats a little bit? Of course they're going to shoot more threes than teams that lost in the first round.

You can look at the regular season as well. In terms of percentage of attempted three pointers Houston is 1st, Cleveland is 2nd, Hawks are 4th and GS is 7th. Also, the Clippers, who somehow didn't make it, were ranked 3rd.


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[JazzMan]

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The stats listed are per game, not total.

Just woke up, didn't see it was per game lol.