2017 Offseason Thread

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Tyler Ennis made Clarkson expendable? Yikes, he must've fell off real bad.


I'd imagine that ya'll would have to attach a 1st round pick to get someone to take that contract.

[Vni]

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I don't know if that's their reasonning or not. I have no clue about anything tbh but I'd have thought we keep his off the bench scoring for now.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I'd probably be interested in something like Clarkson + #28 for #17 + salary filler (Delly, Telly, Henson, etc.)

The only realistic guy I like at 17 is John Collins and I think he'll end up going a few picks before us anyways.

[23]

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Ennis, Nwaba and likely soon to be Ball made him very expendable. I wonder what they could get for him. Could they land a first round pick ? What do you mean by they soured him ? Can you say it differently ?

Yeah I wouldn't say that, but the Lakers went from wanting to trade Nick Young to Clarkson being looked at as the odd man out by the time the season ended.

I'm not sure what he did that they didn't like or maybe they just look to bring in another vet.

[Vni]

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Personally what I don't like about Clarkson is his tunnel vision (even though it improved a little bit when he played at PG at the end of the season) and his lack of defense (wich could be said about a lot of the lakers players). It looks like he's pretty much peaked as a player but with Nick young likely opting out (or has he already ?), Lou gone I thought we would keep him around this season.

[23]

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Personally what I don't like about Clarkson is his tunnel vision (even though it improved a little bit when he played at PG at the end of the season) and his lack of defense (wich could be said about a lot of the lakers players). It looks like he's pretty much peaked as a player but with Nick young likely opting out (or has he already ?), Lou gone I thought we would keep him around this season.

Nick Young said they told him they wanted him back.

Lou's contract coming up soon? If so he probably would've demanded more than they were willing to pull out of the budget.

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Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @WojVerticalNBA 10m10 minutes ago

The Sacramento Kings have waived Anthony Tolliver, league sources tell @TheVertical.



Random

[wco81]

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Is the #28 pick likely to remain on the active roster for the Lakers, as opposed to spend a lot of time in the D League? Team overall could improve but they have a lot of young players who will need playing time for development -- Russell, #2, Nance, Zubac, Randle, Ingram.

As for Clarkson, they obviously have several young players whom the team will prioritize over Clarkson. Maybe if they don't move him, he could try to be a better defender to get playing time. Russell and Ball may struggle defending quick PGs.

[King_B_Mack]

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If the Lakers wanna get rid of him, feel free to send him this way, I'd gladly take him on the Bulls. Not like we got **** going on here anyway.


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[Majingir]

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Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @WojVerticalNBA 10m10 minutes ago

The Sacramento Kings have waived Anthony Tolliver, league sources tell @TheVertical.



Random

But also saves the Kings 6M by deciding to waive him. If they kept him past today, would've had to pay him 8M instead of just 2M from waiving him.

[ProfessaPackMan]

2017 Offseason Thread

Per NetsDaily and a spinoff from Areobee's earlier post:

The Portland Trail Blazers have a problem, a number of them, in fact. They have 12 players on the books next season for $132 million and have three first round picks as well. If they used all three, at Nos. 15, 20 and 26, they’d have to pay out another $5 million ... and make a four-year commitment to each.

Their biggest problem is they won only 41 games with little hope of a big improvement. So they’re looking, suggests RealGM and Sporting News, to make a deal. To get more flexibility and avoid an $11 million luxury tax bill, they might even be ready to do a salary dump, maybe of Allen Crabbe, the 6’6” swingman who they’re going to pay $55 million over the next three years, unless they find a way to turn him into a trade asset.

The question, as Brian Lewis of the Post writes Thursday, would the Nets be interested?

“If the Nets wanted him before, would they still have interest?” Lewis notes. “Or would they feel they dodged an expensive bullet?”

No one on the Nets side of things is talking, but Sean Deveney of Sporting News writes that both the Knicks and the Nets are interested in acquiring one of the three picks, with Brooklyn having a history with Crabbe.

The Nets have inquired, too, and that could be interesting because of the Nets’ ability to absorb salary. Brooklyn stands to have about $40 million in cap space next summer, and without much to offer big-time free agents, leveraging that space to accumulate picks with bad contracts would make sense for the Nets...

Crabbe might be the most inviting trade target, especially for the Nets. They offered him the four-year, $75 million deal he originally signed as a restricted free agent last July before the Blazers matched the terms. Problem is, Crabbe comes with a 15-percent trade kicker...”
Trade kickers can be waived however and under the new CBA, the obligation to pay him rests with the trading team, meaning Portland.

Crabbe, 25, did not have a bad year, shooting 46 percent overall and better than 44 percent from three, averaging 10.7 points in 79 games, seven as a starter. Those are better numbers all around than he had in 2015-16, after which the Nets tendered him an offer sheet worth $75 million. The question is can he improve those numbers —and other parts of his game to justify a deal that would kill more than half of the Nets current cap space.

Not everyone thinks he can. In his end-of-the-season podcast, Mike Richman, Blazers beat writer for The Oregonian, compared Crabbe and Evan Turner, who was also signed to a $70+ million deal last summer. He thinks Turner is a better all-around player.

“He can dribble, Allen Crabbe has no idea how to dribble.

“He can pass, Allen Crabbe has no idea how to pass.

“He can play defense. Allen Crabbe didn’t try to play defense the first 45 games of the season.

“Crabbe can't possibly live up to that $18 million a year contract just because his game is somewhat limited.”
He also mentioned the possibility of a salary dump.

“They’re going be a tax team and they might have to dump off some contracts. It's messy. a messy couple of years ahead of them.”
Richman admitted Crabbe is “an incredibly gifted shooter” but added he’s sometimes reluctant to shoot, never taking more than 16 shots in a game. Still, he hit 134 three pointers, the same number as Brook Lopez.

Lewis thinks the Nets may be willing to do a deal, noting their need for shooting at the wing.

Marks admitted his team needs to fix the small forward spot. And despite taking the fourth-most 3-pointers in the league (31.6) during the season, the Nets made the fifth-worst percentage (.338). Crabbe was second-best in the NBA with a career-best 44.4 percent. Portland, in line for a $132 million payroll next year, can’t afford him. The Nets can.
Moreover, there are few NBA teams that could afford Crabbe, who have the $19.33 million in cap space needed to take him on. The market is thin. So the Nets, if they want Crabbe, could have the upper hand. On the other hand, do the Nets want to pay that much and do they want a third pick in the 20’s? Hard to imagine Portland giving up the 15th pick.

Of course, it’s possible the Blazers look at moving other players not named Crabbe. Other than Turner, Portland has Meyers Leonard, a stretch 5 with, as Richman notes, “confidence issues,” and Maurice Harkless, a 6’8” swingman who was also disappointing. Both are owed around $33 million over the next three seasons. Harkless is a local product from Queens and St. John’s.

There’s plenty of time for the Nets and Blazers to decide. Under the CBA, a team that tendered an offer sheet which was then matched can’t make a deal for that player until after the first anniversary of the offer sheet. That would mean July 9. Of course, the two sides could make a handshake deal, then simply wait until July 9 to conclude it.

As we’ve noted, the Nets have a lot of flexibility this summer. This is one area where they will have to think long and hard about using it.

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[wco81]

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Nets might throw an offer sheet at Jonathan Simmons.

There may be some other RFAs out there worth taking flyers on.

[wco81]

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New Beats commercial after game 1 of the Finals.

Sequences of KD, Draymond and Lebron wearing different models of Beats headphones, ends with "Champions."

OK, Apple is in the Bay Area but the Beats executives who live in LA may still cut these endorsement deals.

For Beats, they only care about how big the stars are, not which markets they play in.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Are you trying to tell us something or just casually mentioning it?

I can never tell with your posts, lol


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[areobee401]

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Raptors and Amir Johnson are said to have mutual interest in a reunion, per Sporting News.