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  • Complex
    MVP
    • Oct 2005
    • 2494

    #1

    should ricky hatton stay or go?

    After his latest defeat, hatton has vowed to retire again. I for one thinks he should stay and continue on. Rather than go after a champion of top, a tune up or two should've taken place.

    His comeback fight sold out in two days even before an opponent was named. Like it or it he still generates interest and revenue.
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  • ubernoob
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    • Jul 2004
    • 15522

    #2
    If that fight were in the US there's no way it sells out anywhere near that fast.

    He can do whatever he wants but he's done being a marquee name. He was gassed and got pretty handled starting halfway through the fight.

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    • SHAKYR
      MVP
      • Nov 2003
      • 1795

      #3
      Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

      Originally posted by ubernoob
      If that fight were in the US there's no way it sells out anywhere near that fast.

      He can do whatever he wants but he's done being a marquee name. He was gassed and got pretty handled starting halfway through the fight.

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      As Complex said, he should not have fought an opponent like that coming off a layoff. A couple of warm up fights probably would have gotten him right back to where he was.
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      • RumbleCard
        MVP
        • Aug 2007
        • 1229

        #4
        Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

        Fact remain that he was winning on the cards at the time he went down. He fought a decent fight. There was a little rubberband effect from dropping so much weight and being out of fight shape for well over 2 years. With regular conditioning and less of an up hill battle with training, I don't think he would have been so gassed by the 7th.

        I believe he could still be relevant.
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        • JayBee74
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 22989

          #5
          Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

          Ricky has some serious problems. He was suicidal at one point, and reportedly has given up drinking because of blackouts. He needs to give up the ring and focus on his mental health.

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          • ubernoob
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            • Jul 2004
            • 15522

            #6
            Originally posted by JayBee74
            Ricky has some serious problems. He was suicidal at one point, and reportedly has given up drinking because of blackouts. He needs to give up the ring and focus on his mental health.
            No he's back in the ring because he conquered his demons. That's one of the reasons it was so celebrated in Manchester.

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            • RumbleCard
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              • Aug 2007
              • 1229

              #7
              Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

              I'm sure focusing on boxing and training has been integral for his mental health and sobriety.
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              • JayBee74
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 22989

                #8
                Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

                Maybe the ring is the key. A body shot loss in a comeback isn't the end of the world.

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                • pietasterp
                  All Star
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 6244

                  #9
                  Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

                  He's a glorified club fighter who never should have un-retired in the first place. He's a huge draw for the UK pub crowd, and so if he can keep making bank at the gate, he should do whatever he wants - far be it from me to say what he should or shouldn't do if he can make money doing it. But as far as from a boxing perspective, he was never really truly relevant, and he's even less so now.

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                  • SHAKYR
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 1795

                    #10
                    Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

                    Originally posted by pietasterp
                    He's a glorified club fighter who never should have un-retired in the first place. He's a huge draw for the UK pub crowd, and so if he can keep making bank at the gate, he should do whatever he wants - far be it from me to say what he should or shouldn't do if he can make money doing it. But as far as from a boxing perspective, he was never really truly relevant, and he's even less so now.
                    So, you are saying this from a casual fan perspective or a true fan of the sport? Hatton has had quite a few fights he won over good opposition. When you belittle his worth you belittle some of the worth of the people who defeated him. If he lost to bums before this lost I would agree with you. He just pick the wrong opponent to comeback from a layoff.

                    There are great hall of famers who lost. Heck, Muhammad Ali lost his last fight to a guy in today's standard was equal to the opponent Hatton fought. People are quick to belittle a boxer when he loses.
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                    • pietasterp
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 6244

                      #11
                      Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

                      Originally posted by SHAKYR
                      So, you are saying this from a casual fan perspective or a true fan of the sport? Hatton has had quite a few fights he won over good opposition. When you belittle his worth you belittle some of the worth of the people who defeated him. If he lost to bums before this lost I would agree with you. He just pick the wrong opponent to comeback from a layoff.

                      There are great hall of famers who lost. Heck, Muhammad Ali lost his last fight to a guy in today's standard was equal to the opponent Hatton fought. People are quick to belittle a boxer when he loses.
                      This opinion is not based on his most recent loss. I've been saying this about Hatton for years. I understand some may disagree, but point out to me the really good fighters he has beaten in his career. Maybe Jose Luis Castillo, and I guess I could give you Callazo and Tackie...I can't think of any more, though. And anyone really good that he fought - Mayweather, Pac - he lost to. I understand there's no shame in losing to those two guys, but when you don't have many other quality wins on your resume, what conclusions can we draw about your career? I'm not saying he's mediocre because he lost to Senchenko, I'm saying it because if you look at his career as a whole, that's what it looks like.
                      Last edited by pietasterp; 12-02-2012, 06:36 PM.

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                      • SHAKYR
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 1795

                        #12
                        Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

                        Originally posted by pietasterp
                        This opinion is not based on his most recent loss. I've been saying this about Hatton for years. I understand some may disagree, but point out to me the really good fighters he has beaten in his career. Maybe Jose Luis Castillo, and I guess I could give you Callazo and Tackie...I can't think of any more, though. And anyone really good that he fought - Mayweather, Pac - he lost to. I understand there's no shame in losing to those two guys, but when you don't have many other quality wins on your resume, what conclusions can we draw about your career? I'm not saying he's mediocre because he lost to Senchenko, I'm saying it because if you look at his career as a whole, that's what it looks like.
                        You really aren't giving Hatton any credit. I'm not a fan but I give credit where it's due. He's not a all time great but he did what he did. You also didn't credit him fights like Juan Urango, Vince Philips, Paul Malignaggi, Freddie Pendleton, Kostya Tszyu(he retired him)
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                        • pietasterp
                          All Star
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 6244

                          #13
                          Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

                          Originally posted by SHAKYR
                          You really aren't giving Hatton any credit. I'm not a fan but I give credit where it's due. He's not a all time great but he did what he did. You also didn't credit him fights like Juan Urango, Vince Philips, Paul Malignaggi, Freddie Pendleton, Kostya Tszyu(he retired him)
                          It's all in the eye of the beholder, I guess. I don't give anyone credit for beating Paulie Malignaggi - the guy hits about as hard as Homer Simpson when he was training with Moe for the Drederick Tatum fight - and Tszyu was on the downside of his career by that point (I mean, it was his last fight). Urango and Philips...if you wanna give him credit for good wins there, that's reasonable I guess. Maybe I over-stated the case when I called him a club-fighter, but I would say he's mediocre to decent. His draw is all from his impressively loyal fanbase; there are a lot of guys that have had similar careers that don't get the same high-profile fights or attention because they don't have a legion of insane fans that will see him fight whenever/wherever (I mean, Vegas was over-run with UK pub crawlers for his last fight there). He has a fan-friendly style, seems like-able, and is competent. He absolutely kills it at the gate, and that's why anyone's even heard of him. I don't dislike the guy, I just think he is what he is.

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                          • JayBee74
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 22989

                            #14
                            Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

                            "Ricky Hatton is one tough fighter. He is still a champion in my eyes and I'd love to see him fight again. "Ricky Hatton is probably one of toughest competitors I've faced. I hit him with some big ones but he kept coming and I can see why they call him the 'Hitman'."

                            Floyd Mayweather, December 8th, 2007

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                            • pietasterp
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6244

                              #15
                              Re: should ricky hatton stay or go?

                              Originally posted by JayBee74
                              "Ricky Hatton is one tough fighter. He is still a champion in my eyes and I'd love to see him fight again. "Ricky Hatton is probably one of toughest competitors I've faced. I hit him with some big ones but he kept coming and I can see why they call him the 'Hitman'."

                              Floyd Mayweather, December 8th, 2007

                              Everyone's entitled to an opinion.

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