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  • Dave_S
    Dave
    • Apr 2016
    • 7835

    #76
    Re: You best trick or tip since playing

    Originally posted by Ksearyback
    Ferguson has kneebars all over the place, but he doesn't have the one from half guard top.

    Dave, the previous reversal thread was still in its infancy. I think you posted a quick video of what it looked like. No one ever clarified who can use it though. Figured it was Better to post here since that old thread was generally useless aside from the clip you posted
    I bumped the thread with a list of fighters I found that have that reversal.

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    • Generative James
      VideoGame PseudoScientist
      • Jun 2016
      • 463

      #77
      Re: You best trick or tip since playing

      Originally posted by Dave_S
      It's not really a reversal as far as nomenclatures in the game are concerned. Just the arm trap from dominant mount postured up that if your opponent is successful it puts you in submissive full guard. If you deny the arm trap there is big stamina cost, if you don't even attempt to deny it their isn't really a stamina penalty.
      I just did this twice in a row into a successful submission... I thought of you, Dave, as I watched his stamina drain and mine go up.

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      • Ksearyback
        Pro
        • Jun 2016
        • 639

        #78
        Re: You best trick or tip since playing

        Originally posted by Dave_S
        I bumped the thread with a list of fighters I found that have that reversal.
        Appreciated!

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        • Dave_S
          Dave
          • Apr 2016
          • 7835

          #79
          Re: You best trick or tip since playing

          Originally posted by Ksearyback
          Appreciated!
          That stupid list took over 2 hours, lol

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          • Ksearyback
            Pro
            • Jun 2016
            • 639

            #80
            Re: You best trick or tip since playing

            Originally posted by Dave_S
            That stupid list took over 2 hours, lol
            I hear you. I began to do it after I couldn't find it using the $hitty search feature on this site. I quickly realized it would be easier to ask if anyone had already done it

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            • Dave_S
              Dave
              • Apr 2016
              • 7835

              #81
              Re: You best trick or tip since playing

              Not my best tip, but I think it's a decent one.

              If my opponent gets me in a sub attempt that has a green gate I will frequently not even attempt to defend and only focus on when and where green gate flashes. I hit it first almost every time that way. I sometimes test out my opponents sub offense first. If in first gate their offense looks bad I'll just try to escape instead of waiting for green gate.

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              • IamDoubiBear
                Rookie
                • Jun 2017
                • 61

                #82
                Re: You best trick or tip since playing

                Originally posted by Dave_S
                Not my best tip, but I think it's a decent one.



                If my opponent gets me in a sub attempt that has a green gate I will frequently not even attempt to defend and only focus on when and where green gate flashes. I hit it first almost every time that way. I sometimes test out my opponents sub offense first. If in first gate their offense looks bad I'll just try to escape instead of waiting for green gate.


                If you hit the green gate first while defending the sub, it cancels the sub change ?


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                • TheUFCVeteran
                  Pro
                  • May 2016
                  • 878

                  #83
                  Re: You best trick or tip since playing

                  Originally posted by IamDoubiBear
                  If you hit the green gate first while defending the sub, it cancels the sub change ?


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                  Yup, it stops the sub from being chained into another and also pushes the defender's gates out so far that it's pretty much a free escape every time.

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                  • IamDoubiBear
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 61

                    #84
                    Re: You best trick or tip since playing

                    Originally posted by TheUFCVeteran
                    Yup, it stops the sub from being chained into another and also pushes the defender's gates out so far that it's pretty much a free escape every time.


                    The more you know ! Another thing I didn't know after playing since the release... does it work the same way for regular blue gates too ?


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                    • Supreme_Bananas
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 944

                      #85
                      Re: You best trick or tip since playing

                      Originally posted by TheUFCVeteran
                      Yup, it stops the sub from being chained into another and also pushes the defender's gates out so far that it's pretty much a free escape every time.
                      It only pushes the gates out when the attacker still tries to go for the green gate after the defender has hit it. If the defender hits it, the gate simply disappear, so when the attacker tries to go for it afterwards it'll count as a wrong direction and push the gates out.

                      But, the attacker can also simply ignore the green gate and go for the blue ones only. This means the sub is 1 stage longer, but it also is impossible for the defender to do anything about it.

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                      • T4H Yeedles
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2017
                        • 8

                        #86
                        Re: You best trick or tip since playing

                        Learning the wrestling reversals off of takedowns is a trick that helps against people who spam single leg takedowns

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                        • IamDoubiBear
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2017
                          • 61

                          #87
                          Re: You best trick or tip since playing

                          Originally posted by Supreme_Bananas
                          It only pushes the gates out when the attacker still tries to go for the green gate after the defender has hit it. If the defender hits it, the gate simply disappear, so when the attacker tries to go for it afterwards it'll count as a wrong direction and push the gates out.

                          But, the attacker can also simply ignore the green gate and go for the blue ones only. This means the sub is 1 stage longer, but it also is impossible for the defender to do anything about it.


                          Thanks for the input, very interesting !


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                          • thqtank
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2017
                            • 73

                            #88
                            Re: You best trick or tip since playing

                            for round 1 i just use Ukemi and let the opponent beat me then they think they have an easy fight, but in round 2 i come back with extra power sicne i throw almost no strikes. and for some reason i never get knocked out no matter how many hits i take in round 1 as long as i never throw strikes

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                            • Ksearyback
                              Pro
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 639

                              #89
                              Re: You best trick or tip since playing

                              Originally posted by thqtank
                              for round 1 i just use Ukemi and let the opponent beat me then they think they have an easy fight, but in round 2 i come back with extra power sicne i throw almost no strikes. and for some reason i never get knocked out no matter how many hits i take in round 1 as long as i never throw strikes
                              Is this even serious? What the hell are you even saying?

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                              • Dave_S
                                Dave
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 7835

                                #90
                                Re: You best trick or tip since playing

                                Originally posted by thqtank
                                for round 1 i just use Ukemi and let the opponent beat me then they think they have an easy fight, but in round 2 i come back with extra power sicne i throw almost no strikes. and for some reason i never get knocked out no matter how many hits i take in round 1 as long as i never throw strikes
                                THQ called......

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