If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

[Bigg Cee]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

I still may get knocked out by a great striker Haz but that does not mean I still can't take you down over and over and get atleast 3 or 4 plus takedowns a game. The rest just depends on lag and if I can hold ppl there and deny. With lag it can be hard at times and even harder to get takedowns. Theres a lot of stuff that plays a part in success.

[Evil97]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

Head sways build GA. I am also constantly looking for missed strikes, especially kicks late in a combo. But if you are swaying and eat a leg kick or whatever, the takedown deny window is still really small. You mentioned how arcade it feels, but unfortunately, it really is as simple as wiggling your head around before you shoot. I tend to bait missed strikes with the head sway mixed in when I know what's coming.
And what Cee said, squatting down grants the biggest GA.

[Bigg Cee]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

Head sways build GA. I am also constantly looking for missed strikes, especially kicks late in a combo. But if you are swaying and eat a leg kick or what whatever, the takedown deny window is still really small. You mentioned how arcade it feels, but unfortunately, it really is as simple as wiggling your head around before you shoot. I tend to bait missed strikes with the head sway mixed in when I know what's coming.
And what Cee said, squatting down grants the biggest GA.

Ya head sway is the other way and works great like Evil97 said.

I'm not hear to make trouble but I'm just saying takedowns right now are in a good spot and a buff will make them so overpowered it won't even be funny. TRUST ME ON THAT!!!!

[Boiler569]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

No FN way. I'm not wasting my time on this guy. If he wants to learn takedowns go ask someone else.

Sorry for bein a jerk but im done with this worthless topic and the worthless post I see from people who know nothing about the ground or takedowns in the game.

Bye!

Did you know GPD admitted that --- if a fighter has 100% stamina and the other has 0% stamina --- there is still a *six frame denial window*

can you believe that? 0% stamina and you still have six frames to successfully deny a standing takedown!

come on man you gotta admit, that's ridiculous

[Shogun474]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

Did you know GPD admitted that --- if a fighter has 100% stamina and the other has 0% stamina --- there is still a *six frame denial window*

can you believe that? 0% stamina and you still have six frames to successfully deny a standing takedown!

come on man you gotta admit, that's ridiculous

Wow really? Thats beyond a joke

[Boiler569]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

Wow really? Thats beyond a joke

yup this came up a couple months ago. I think on this forum (possibly the EA forum but I think it was this one)

Lots of people were very surprised, to say the least lol

I'm sorry but if your stamina is under 20%...opponent is over 80%...and stats are even...you should have a denial window of 0 frames !!!! lol

[Bigg Cee]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

Did you know GPD admitted that --- if a fighter has 100% stamina and the other has 0% stamina --- there is still a *six frame denial window*

can you believe that? 0% stamina and you still have six frames to successfully deny a standing takedown!

come on man you gotta admit, that's ridiculous

Ya i knew that.

At the time i thought it was a lil crazy and still is but anymore of a buff and your really going to have a OP ground game and OP takedowns. So now after becoming really good at the ground i can see why u can deny so early now.

Now the stamina issue that ties into trying to deny. I agree with you. That's why I said takedowns are in a good spot but there still times ppl deny with no stamina but if that part gets a buff you still will have a OP takedown/ground game.

[ZHunter1990]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

Takedowns are in a very good spot right now.

If buffed any more fights will become nothing but takedown contests.

Also, do you realize how small 6 frames is? If you can time that you deserve to be able to deny the TD.

[Boiler569]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

Takedowns are in a very good spot right now.

If buffed any more fights will become nothing but takedown contests.

Also, do you realize how small 6 frames is? If you can time that you deserve to be able to deny the TD.

it's all about the pre-deny at the high level (as i'm sure you know) --- let's not call it pre-deny per se; but more of a 'predicted denial' where you try to time a denial and input the denial before animation begins.

This is a legit tactic in general (especially with lag lol)

BUT --- I don't care if a guy knows for absolute sure I'm going for a takedown --- if he has <20% stamina and I have 80-100% stamina --- 0 Frame Denial Window is appropriate, don't you think?

He can see it coming all he wants. But he has no stamina and I'm gassed up. He's going for a ride.

(Again...assuming the person taking them down isn't some guy with minimal takedown stats vs. DC or something lol)

But that's just the extreme example

Even 100% stamina vs 50% stamina --- assuming even stats --- I'm sure the window is way too large; probably like 20 frames or something

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

I am curious as to your guys takedown %?

[Bigg Cee]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

I am curious as to your guys takedown %?

You can't go by that for an accurate TD% because of lag, latency and just playing ppl from all over the world through P2P. It's just not a good way to judge things.

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

You can't go by that for an accurate TD% because of lag, latency and just playing ppl from all over the world. It's just not a good way to judge things.

Sure you can, it's not like 25% of all your matches are laggy.

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[Bigg Cee]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

Sure you can, it's not like 25% of all your matches are laggy.

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Tons of online matches are laggy, are you playing the same UFC 2 ranked matches like i am? There's times the game can be unplayable and the ground game stops working during bad latency. Things disappear and don't respond in command due to input lag.

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

Tons of online matches are laggy, are you playing the same UFC 2 ranked matches like i am? There's times the game can be unplayable and the ground game stops working during bad latency. Things disappear and don't respond in command due to input lag.

I've had lag like that but I'd say that accounts for less than the 2% of my matches.
I only have a 15mbs Internet connection and I get pretty lag free matches almost always.


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[EJ_Manuel]

Re: If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

You guys who want TD's buffed do realize it's impossible to throw a kick in this game now because of how easy TD's are. Seriously, you can stand there and wait for your opponent to throw a kick and if you time it right it's an auto TD. I literally have almost no clue what I'm doing on the ground, hate being there, and I took a division 6 fighter down 20 plus times last night, just waiting for him to throw a kick and shooting.

If you buff it anymore you might as well call this EA UFC 2: Wrestling competition.