Inside fighting: possible solution?

[port913]

Re: Inside fighting: possible solution?

I hear you, but this is MMA. Guys rarely get crowded in real life (1) because elbows and uppercuts hurt really bad and (2) bc there is a clinch threat.

For players who avoid the ground, use the clinch to tie up and then punish opponent with strikes (can’t really do atm unless in MT clinch) or break and reset.

We cant keep altering the realism of the game because people only want to keep the fight standing.


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Well think about this:
I am wonderboy against usman
Right now i simply cant create distance. Just cant, always crowded until a patch comes. If we implement your idea the usman player is rewarded because all he does is pressure + high block, gets in my face and gets a free clinch. Now its his world and the stat difference make it almost impossible as wonderboy to play. In real life usman just wouldnt be able to close distance like that on wonderboy and thats the problem in game right now
If closing the distance will be challenging enough, i personally wouldnt mind a faster clinch entry

[iceberg3445]

Inside fighting: possible solution?

Well think about this:
I am wonderboy against usman
Right now i simply cant create distance. Just cant, always crowded until a patch comes. If we implement your idea the usman player is rewarded because all he does is pressure + high block, gets in my face and gets a free clinch. Now its his world and the stat difference make it almost impossible as wonderboy to play. In real life usman just wouldnt be able to close distance like that on wonderboy and thats the problem in game right now
If closing the distance will be challenging enough, i personally wouldnt mind a faster clinch entry

Wonder boy uses quick footwork (and front leg side kicks and other rapid kicks) to keep his opponents at distance.

This game doesn’t allow players to move like wonderboy because players aren’t able to quickly move backwards or laterally (to circle out). Adding that to the game will help keep distance while also avoiding the clinch.

But I do think enabling an easy clinch option for players exchanging at close range should be an option available for players to disencentivize inside fighting like it does in real life.


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[port913]

Re: Inside fighting: possible solution?

Wonder boy uses quick footwork (and front leg side kicks and other rapid kicks) to keep his opponents at distance.

This game doesn’t allow players to move like wonderboy because players aren’t able to quickly move backwards or laterally (to circle out). Adding that to the game will help keep distance while also avoiding the clinch.

But I do think enabling an easy clinch option for players exchanging at close range should be an option available for players to disencentivize inside fighting like it does in real life.


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I agree with adding easy clinching just if they also add movement options.
Zombie rommel talked in another thread about awesome ideas that gpd shared with him that he cant share with us yet.
Im super curius to see what thise ideas are and how they will affect the game and this pressure problem we have right now

[EarvGotti]

Re: Inside fighting: possible solution?

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Wanted to put this out there as these tactics have given me a lot of success vs constant pressure inside fighters.

Key Points are:

1) Feints: These setup counterpunches beautifully and video shows/explains why

2) Stand Your Ground: Pressure fighters want you to back up, especially against the cage. Don't do it. Use head movement and lunges instead

3) Sways/Ducks: If you're not using footwork then you have to use head movement. These make your counters more effective and deal more damage

Force your opponent to throw when you want them to throw....then counter. Bait them into throwing and pick up on their patterns. Adjust your counters accordingly based on what they are throwing. Still looking forward to the adjustment GPD has up his sleeve, but in the meantime...this has worked well for me.

[kehlis]

Re: Inside fighting: possible solution?

It's not always that simple but okay man. I had a significant stamina disadvantage as I said. Him missing a knee here and there only to get in my face again in a split second wouldn't have made any difference.

Solid is also a nice person and easy to communicate with. Please refrain from quoting me from now on. I don't want to talk to you. lol

There is no way to prohibit someone from quoting your posts but you could always just put him on your ignore list which would make it so you don't see his responses.

[RetractedMonkey]

Re: Inside fighting: possible solution?

Please refrain from quoting me from now on. I don't want to talk to you. lol

You could always just not respond. Or send another gif calling me a bitch and flipping me off since apparently you have ban insurance when communicating with me.


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[kehlis]

Re: Inside fighting: possible solution?

Enough, he's already been banned once for a response directly to you (which was deleted so you didn't see it).

No one has ban insurance.


Also, we (as mods) don't have the ability to see edits as you recently alluded to so if something it posted screen grab it before it's edited out. We can see deleted posts but not posts that are edited.

And while immature, the GIF was deleted as he realized it's wrong. Many here think I'm an ******* but I also recognize that we all make mistakes. He was mature enough to realize that was dumb and corrected his mistake.

[Freshly Baked Gregg]

Re: Inside fighting: possible solution?

Body knee spamming when the attacker has a significant stamina advantage is the most OP thing. Just lost a fight because of this stupid ****. He just worked out the body knee and from the first one he threw the fight completely changed. I was effectively helpless. I either got body knee'd or uppercut and had no way of creating distance. Raging.

Body knees are pretty easily countered with 1-2s


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[Serengeti1]

Re: Inside fighting: possible solution?

Body knees are pretty easily countered with 1-2s


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I know they can be countered. 1-2 isn't the best way to do it though. Uppers/hooks are. 1-2s do nothing on the inside. When you have a significant stamina disadvantage and can't get away from someone mixing up knees and uppers... you're basically ****ed tho. It wasn't just down to the stamina disadvantage though. A lot of it is just how the inside game functions. I don't want to discuss this anymore and get told I'm bad though... It's already been established that it's an issue.

This is why I always post me doing the cheesy tactics. People very rarely have an argument then. If it's happening to you it's just assumed that you're bad. I don't understand what causes that mentality but It's be cool if people didn't do that so often. There's a counter to everything in the game near enough. That doesn't mean it can't be OP if utilised correctly.