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  • Kingslayer04
    MVP
    • Dec 2017
    • 1482

    #76
    Re: CAFs in ranked

    Originally posted by AydinDubstep
    +1

    And offline CAF should be whatever max OVR I want it to be.

    If I want to make Michael Jordan after watching the Netflix documentary and give him 100 OVR, then dang it let me do that!

    No one is harmed in the making of my 100 OVR CAF for OFFLINE.
    MJ learned about the new CAF system and having to be 74 rated...and he took it personally.

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    • HypeRNT
      Rookie
      • Apr 2016
      • 368

      #77
      Re: CAFs in ranked

      Originally posted by RomeroXVII
      Yup, count me in the list of people that said "Cafs should be separate from the Roster"

      Roster Ranked should remain, Roster Ranked.

      CAF Ranked, should be CAF Ranked.
      Yeah i mean look, i dont have an issue with CAF's being in ranked, if anything, the unique CAF you make will now have more eyes on it and you can show case your familiarity with your CAF, but to limit movelists and ratings and just throw a few presets for you, basically creating billion clones is just silly and for what? So that ranked players would start crying? So that CAF's could be in ranked ? Something neither community seem to want?

      It just seems so forced... and i dont get it why...How hard is it to cap a CAF but at least let them adjust X amount of ratings or moves...Let me decide what im good at... if im a Karate guy with good bjj but horrible takedown defense... or a Boxer with good takedowns but weak chin..as long as the ratings CAP is there my CAF cant be stronger than a roster fighter....Add a limit on movelists so that we cant add all the OP moves or all the Lvl5 moves....its not that hard... what we have no is the worst of all the systems.... so now no one is happy... how does that make any sense

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #78
        CAFs in ranked

        Originally posted by HypeRNT
        Yeah but even non ranked players would of never asked to put CAF's in ranked...cuz you know...they are non ranked players....and ok, even if i wanted to use my CAF in ranked, sure, myself personally im down for that, but no way in hell would i ever vote for that option if i knew how limited my CAF would be just to get onto a mode that you said "isnt popular"..... that part makes literally 0 sense.... its like you are telling me that 2+2 is 47..... and we gona need post release patches to fix this....well, how about we just make 2+2=4... its really not that hard.....



        If you want CAF's in ranked, ok keep them there, you want to cap the ovr of the CAFs? YES please, it makes all the sense in the world.... but we have to be able to adjust ratings or move sets, that is just insanity right there......If you want to make CAF's 5 OVR less or something because of the custom move lists go for it, CAF players would understand, but right now literally no one is happy and that is just CLEARLY the wrong direction.


        Lol. You are preaching to the choir. There isn’t a single game changer that was more vocally against the caf changes than me. We all disliked them but I was obnoxiously loud about my dislike.

        They have their reasons. They have data that supports their reasons. I don’t agree with it but I’ve already been vocal about this. Hopefully the anger on OS will motivate them to fix this sooner or later.


        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

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        • Kingslayer04
          MVP
          • Dec 2017
          • 1482

          #79
          Re: CAFs in ranked

          Originally posted by AydinDubstep
          He would be such a beast in MMA in his Prime. Now I get what Joe Rogan goes on about when he talks about super athletes from the NBA making good fighters. Just his mindset alone would carry him to top 10, throw in his physical build, athleticism and IQ and he'd make Jon Jones look like CM Punk.
          Do you really believe that? I know about his mentality and basketball ability (I've only been following basketball since recently via the NBA 2k20 offer on PS Plus and a friend who's a long time fan) but the two sports are very different. Or are you just ArtemGOATing right now, lol? But if it's serious, I'm not quite sure it's as straightforward as Rogan suggests. Keep in mind, he also thought Ronda could beat men, including Floyd and ****ing Cain.

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          • Tidge
            Rookie
            • Jun 2017
            • 54

            #80
            Re: CAFs in ranked

            As long as there's a way to disable to possibility of playing them in ranked I'm not bothered.

            let those farts use cafs in a separate mode if they must.

            I'll be playing to use my favourite personalities who actually get in there and fight, I cba coming across some pennywise caf. It completely takes me out of the game.

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            • johnmangala
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 4525

              #81
              Re: CAFs in ranked

              They should add tattoos, hair, and body shapes for previous fighters. So we can recreate better CAFs like Mike Tyson, Lesnar, Bas, Sakuraba etc.

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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #82
                Re: CAFs in ranked

                Originally posted by Tidge
                As long as there's a way to disable to possibility of playing them in ranked I'm not bothered.

                let those farts use cafs in a separate mode if they must.

                I'll be playing to use my favourite personalities who actually get in there and fight, I cba coming across some pennywise caf. It completely takes me out of the game.
                I dont think there will be. There will likely be a way to avoid them in Quick Match but not in ranked.

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                • ayceeonethirty
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 26

                  #83
                  Re: CAFs in ranked

                  Originally posted by RomeroXVII
                  Highest I've seen on ranked on PS4 is 28k, the average being 15k-20k. There's more players offline than on Ranked? Interesting.
                  Wait.

                  Are the players listed literally just the ones online? Matchmaking or currently in a fight or whatever?

                  I always assumed that was the total amount of people with UFC 3 open on their system at the time.

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                  • Tidge
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 54

                    #84
                    Re: CAFs in ranked

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    I dont think there will be. There will likely be a way to avoid them in Quick Match but not in ranked.
                    If this is the case...

                    why must they always do this sort of nonsense lol

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                    • aholbert32
                      (aka Alberto)
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 33106

                      #85
                      Re: CAFs in ranked

                      Originally posted by ayceeonethirty
                      Wait.

                      Are the players listed literally just the ones online? Matchmaking or currently in a fight or whatever?

                      I always assumed that was the total amount of people with UFC 3 open on their system at the time.
                      The number is the people currently in matchmaking lobbies or playing an online mode.

                      When I tell you the number of people who play ranked is low.....I mean its LOW.

                      They arent the majority. Ranked isnt even the most popular online mode. It seems that way because comp players are vocal (which is understandable because they are one of the most passionate groups) but they are no where close to the majority.

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                      • HypeRNT
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 368

                        #86
                        Re: CAFs in ranked

                        Originally posted by aholbert32
                        The number is the people currently in matchmaking lobbies or playing an online mode.

                        When I tell you the number of people who play ranked is low.....I mean its LOW.

                        They arent the majority. Ranked isnt even the most popular online mode. It seems that way because comp players are vocal (which is understandable because they are one of the most passionate groups) but they are no where close to the majority.
                        But thats why some of these changes make so little sense, because even the OFFLINE players dont like it... i dont know if its been confirmed or not that there wont be any offline CAF's that you can customize your moves/ratings in, because if ranked players are the minority, then what feedback are devs using to make these changes? Cuz its not from ranked players, and its not from offline players, and its not from CAF/UT players, it just seems totally random and baseless, like one of those coin flips "oh well better luck next year" type of things....

                        Its like when EA ufc 3 came out and introduced roster fighter skins into CAF's and prevented us from making our own CAF's in UT, i was asking GPD the same question, like who the hell asked for this? And the answer was no one because it was the most hated feature.... and it showed... and now its removed....entire thing is gone....so its the same thing AGAIN... no one asked for this, because its bad, because people dont like it... why is this so hard to comprehend? Where is the disconnect thats happening here?
                        Last edited by HypeRNT; 07-11-2020, 05:40 PM.

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #87
                          Re: CAFs in ranked

                          Originally posted by HypeRNT
                          But thats why some of these changes make so little sense, because even the OFFLINE players dont like it... i dont know if its been confirmed or not that there wont be any offline CAF's that you can customize your moves/ratings in, because if ranked players are the minority, then what feedback are devs using to make these changes? Cuz its not from ranked players, and its not from offline players, and its not from CAF/UT players, it just seems totally random and baseless, like one of those coin flips "oh well better luck next year" type of things....

                          Its like when EA ufc 3 came out and introduced roster fighter skins into CAF's and prevented us from making our own CAF's in UT, i was asking GPD the same question, like who the hell asked for this? And the answer was no one because it was the most hated feature.... and it showed... and now its removed....entire thing is gone....so its the same thing AGAIN... no one asked for this, because its bad, because people dont like it... why is this so hard to comprehend? Where is the disconnect thats happening here?
                          Let me start this how I have to start most of my points here.....IM NOT DEFENDING EA'S DECISION. I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THEIR DECISION WHEN IT COMES TO CAFS.

                          With that said, they look at it differently than you. They dont look at the user base as strictly Offline players and Ranked players.

                          There is a larger group of players who play this game online (in Quick Match) and ALOT of them use CAFs. They saw this and thought of ways to encourage those CAF people to use their CAfs in Ranked and this is what they decided on.

                          Again, I dont agree with the decisions. I'm a big fan of options. I'm pissed that my ability to make CAFs is going to be limited because I have to force fighters to fall into certain archetypes.

                          Their decision isnt "baseless". Its based on the data that they have and that they presented to the GCs (who had the same questions you are asking). We dont agree with the decisions they made based on that data but again their decision wasnt random.

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                          • HypeRNT
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 368

                            #88
                            Re: CAFs in ranked

                            Originally posted by aholbert32
                            Let me start this how I have to start most of my points here.....IM NOT DEFENDING EA'S DECISION. I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THEIR DECISION WHEN IT COMES TO CAFS.

                            With that said, they look at it differently than you. They dont look at the user base as strictly Offline players and Ranked players.

                            There is a larger group of players who play this game online (in Quick Match) and ALOT of them use CAFs. They saw this and thought of ways to encourage those CAF people to use their CAfs in Ranked and this is what they decided on.

                            Again, I dont agree with the decisions. I'm a big fan of options. I'm pissed that my ability to make CAFs is going to be limited because I have to force fighters to fall into certain archetypes.

                            Their decision isnt "baseless". Its based on the data that they have and that they presented to the GCs (who had the same questions you are asking). We dont agree with the decisions they made based on that data but again their decision wasnt random.
                            huh? There is a larger group of players who play this game online (in Quick Match) and ALOT of them use CAFs. They saw this and thought of ways to encourage those CAF people to use their CAfs in Ranked and this is what they decided on.
                            This point literally makes no sense.. or am i just not reading it correctly?

                            The way to encourage CAF players to use their CAF in ranked or quick matches was to limit their CAF into generic presets? WAH???????

                            and literally what are they basing this from? what data? You said the number of ranked players is extremely low... that they are the minority...so how did we just go from a minority player base to forcing the "majority" into a minority game mode... while limiting the "majority" in a multitude of ways just to try and achieve an increase in numbers of ranked players?

                            I swear its like im being told that 2+2=47, just makes 0 sense no matter how i look at it, and im very open minded, im ok with a lot of changes, but this just does not make sense no matter whose perspective im trying to look at it from.

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                            • Tidge
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2017
                              • 54

                              #89
                              Re: CAFs in ranked

                              Originally posted by aholbert32
                              Let me start this how I have to start most of my points here.....IM NOT DEFENDING EA'S DECISION. I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THEIR DECISION WHEN IT COMES TO CAFS.

                              With that said, they look at it differently than you. They dont look at the user base as strictly Offline players and Ranked players.

                              There is a larger group of players who play this game online (in Quick Match) and ALOT of them use CAFs. They saw this and thought of ways to encourage those CAF people to use their CAfs in Ranked and this is what they decided on.

                              Again, I dont agree with the decisions. I'm a big fan of options. I'm pissed that my ability to make CAFs is going to be limited because I have to force fighters to fall into certain archetypes.

                              Their decision isnt "baseless". Its based on the data that they have and that they presented to the GCs (who had the same questions you are asking). We dont agree with the decisions they made based on that data but again their decision wasnt random.
                              What'll be interesting to me is how many of these players love CAFs purely for the ability to make them absolutely ridiculously OP from the get go? Or even just via micro transactions? If that ability is taken away from them with how they're limited into certain archetypes, will these people who love cafs be willing to spend the time with them to actually get them to a usable level? Or will they just select an already incredible fighter like McGregor for example to use.

                              Only time will tell, but the general stereotype that surrounds players who use CAFs makes me think otherwise.
                              Last edited by Tidge; 07-11-2020, 06:03 PM.

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                              • johnmangala
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 4525

                                #90
                                Re: CAFs in ranked

                                They should add a toggle in CAF for offline/online. Do what you want offline and capped online.

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