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  • MercilessMagal
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    • May 2004
    • 57

    #16
    Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

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    Erratic said:
    lol, graphics dont mean anything to me. If i cared about how my sports games looked (or any other game for that matter) io would only buy PC games. I think alot of people forget that systems like attari, nes, and god might i say virtual boy (hehe) were around and produced some of the most fun games around.

    Any game that comes out on any of the current system is going to be fine graphic wise imo. Heck Golden Eye for n64 is still the 4th most played game in my house.

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    i totally agree with you that gameplay come first... but than after gameplay u get graphics and sound as the most important features for a game.. computer comparison is not valid because the gamestyle of computer is totally different... no way u will be playing sports/fighting/arcade games in a pc the way they are meant to... and the same goes for vg... there is no way u can play counterstrike on a videogame, the way u can do it on pc... so there is no point in comparing vgs and computers... and also not everyone has money to aford a top notch pc.. u cant compare a $300 machine with a $3,000 one. I think this narrows the discussion to videogame x videogame.

    bottom line is gameplay comes first yes, but in this case (NFL 2K5), the more powerfull system and better graphics/sound system will also IMPROVE the gaming experience overall... IMHO.

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    • Erratic
      Pro
      • Mar 2004
      • 708

      #17
      Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
      MercilessMagal said:
      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
      Erratic said:
      lol, graphics dont mean anything to me. If i cared about how my sports games looked (or any other game for that matter) io would only buy PC games. I think alot of people forget that systems like attari, nes, and god might i say virtual boy (hehe) were around and produced some of the most fun games around.

      Any game that comes out on any of the current system is going to be fine graphic wise imo. Heck Golden Eye for n64 is still the 4th most played game in my house.

      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

      i totally agree with you that gameplay come first... but than after gameplay u get graphics and sound as the most important features for a game.. computer comparison is not valid because the gamestyle of computer is totally different... no way u will be playing sports/fighting/arcade games in a pc the way they are meant to... and the same goes for vg... there is no way u can play counterstrike on a videogame, the way u can do it on pc... so there is no point in comparing vgs and computers... and also not everyone has money to aford a top notch pc.. u cant compare a $300 machine with a $3,000 one. I think this narrows the discussion to videogame x videogame.

      bottom line is gameplay comes first yes, but in this case (NFL 2K5), the more powerfull system and better graphics/sound system will also IMPROVE the gaming experience overall... IMHO.

      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

      I would agree with you, however i recently baught a ps2 controller for my PC. Now i am essentialy playing sports games on my PC the way they were ment to be played, excpet but it has better graphics than any system out there. As far as control, There is no longer a difference between the Ps2 and my PC due to the pickup of a controller thus my comparison is valid. I buy every game i can for my PC, no matter what genre, however i baught a Ps2 becasue i enjoy alot of the games that only come out for it, ESPN Football being 1 of many. I will not buy an xbox becasue most of the games i want to play on xbox i can play on my PC.

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      • Erratic
        Pro
        • Mar 2004
        • 708

        #18
        Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
        MercilessMagal said:
        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
        Erratic said:
        lol, graphics dont mean anything to me. If i cared about how my sports games looked (or any other game for that matter) io would only buy PC games. I think alot of people forget that systems like attari, nes, and god might i say virtual boy (hehe) were around and produced some of the most fun games around.

        Any game that comes out on any of the current system is going to be fine graphic wise imo. Heck Golden Eye for n64 is still the 4th most played game in my house.

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        i totally agree with you that gameplay come first... but than after gameplay u get graphics and sound as the most important features for a game.. computer comparison is not valid because the gamestyle of computer is totally different... no way u will be playing sports/fighting/arcade games in a pc the way they are meant to... and the same goes for vg... there is no way u can play counterstrike on a videogame, the way u can do it on pc... so there is no point in comparing vgs and computers... and also not everyone has money to aford a top notch pc.. u cant compare a $300 machine with a $3,000 one. I think this narrows the discussion to videogame x videogame.

        bottom line is gameplay comes first yes, but in this case (NFL 2K5), the more powerfull system and better graphics/sound system will also IMPROVE the gaming experience overall... IMHO.

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        I would agree with you, however i recently baught a ps2 controller for my PC. Now i am essentialy playing sports games on my PC the way they were ment to be played, excpet but it has better graphics than any system out there. As far as control, There is no longer a difference between the Ps2 and my PC due to the pickup of a controller thus my comparison is valid. I buy every game i can for my PC, no matter what genre, however i baught a Ps2 becasue i enjoy alot of the games that only come out for it, ESPN Football being 1 of many. I will not buy an xbox becasue most of the games i want to play on xbox i can play on my PC.

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        • Erratic
          Pro
          • Mar 2004
          • 708

          #19
          Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
          MercilessMagal said:
          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
          Erratic said:
          lol, graphics dont mean anything to me. If i cared about how my sports games looked (or any other game for that matter) io would only buy PC games. I think alot of people forget that systems like attari, nes, and god might i say virtual boy (hehe) were around and produced some of the most fun games around.

          Any game that comes out on any of the current system is going to be fine graphic wise imo. Heck Golden Eye for n64 is still the 4th most played game in my house.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          i totally agree with you that gameplay come first... but than after gameplay u get graphics and sound as the most important features for a game.. computer comparison is not valid because the gamestyle of computer is totally different... no way u will be playing sports/fighting/arcade games in a pc the way they are meant to... and the same goes for vg... there is no way u can play counterstrike on a videogame, the way u can do it on pc... so there is no point in comparing vgs and computers... and also not everyone has money to aford a top notch pc.. u cant compare a $300 machine with a $3,000 one. I think this narrows the discussion to videogame x videogame.

          bottom line is gameplay comes first yes, but in this case (NFL 2K5), the more powerfull system and better graphics/sound system will also IMPROVE the gaming experience overall... IMHO.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          I would agree with you, however i recently baught a ps2 controller for my PC. Now i am essentialy playing sports games on my PC the way they were ment to be played, excpet but it has better graphics than any system out there. As far as control, There is no longer a difference between the Ps2 and my PC due to the pickup of a controller thus my comparison is valid. I buy every game i can for my PC, no matter what genre, however i baught a Ps2 becasue i enjoy alot of the games that only come out for it, ESPN Football being 1 of many. I will not buy an xbox becasue most of the games i want to play on xbox i can play on my PC.

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          • RoyalBoyle78
            Aka."Footballforever"
            • May 2003
            • 23918

            #20
            Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

            Erratic- very well said
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            • RoyalBoyle78
              Aka."Footballforever"
              • May 2003
              • 23918

              #21
              Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

              Erratic- very well said
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              • RoyalBoyle78
                Aka."Footballforever"
                • May 2003
                • 23918

                #22
                Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

                Erratic- very well said
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                N.Y Giants
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                • Nza
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 3437

                  #23
                  Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

                  Graphics are an integral part of gameplay. Whether you want to believe it or not, having better graphics obviously means a better overall experience in respect to two otherwise equal versions (As in this case). This doesn't mean graphics are king, it just means when you have two versions of the same game, only one has better graphics, you have to wonder what you're missing out on even if you don't particularly care. I mean, you can't dislike better graphics of the same game, you can only really prioritise the features and hope that not getting the same bang for you buck doesn't bother you.

                  The only factor is probably the control pad, which the Sony leads IMO (I don't care for analog trigger buttons acting as normal buttons - have you ever tried to pump fake with L on an Xbox? I can't do it). Hopefully the visuals aren't the only real improvement for 2K5, and the PS2 version has a valid chance to improve on 2K4, although I'm sure users of both consoles will be satisfied.

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                  • Nza
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 3437

                    #24
                    Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

                    Graphics are an integral part of gameplay. Whether you want to believe it or not, having better graphics obviously means a better overall experience in respect to two otherwise equal versions (As in this case). This doesn't mean graphics are king, it just means when you have two versions of the same game, only one has better graphics, you have to wonder what you're missing out on even if you don't particularly care. I mean, you can't dislike better graphics of the same game, you can only really prioritise the features and hope that not getting the same bang for you buck doesn't bother you.

                    The only factor is probably the control pad, which the Sony leads IMO (I don't care for analog trigger buttons acting as normal buttons - have you ever tried to pump fake with L on an Xbox? I can't do it). Hopefully the visuals aren't the only real improvement for 2K5, and the PS2 version has a valid chance to improve on 2K4, although I'm sure users of both consoles will be satisfied.

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                    • Nza
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 3437

                      #25
                      Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

                      Graphics are an integral part of gameplay. Whether you want to believe it or not, having better graphics obviously means a better overall experience in respect to two otherwise equal versions (As in this case). This doesn't mean graphics are king, it just means when you have two versions of the same game, only one has better graphics, you have to wonder what you're missing out on even if you don't particularly care. I mean, you can't dislike better graphics of the same game, you can only really prioritise the features and hope that not getting the same bang for you buck doesn't bother you.

                      The only factor is probably the control pad, which the Sony leads IMO (I don't care for analog trigger buttons acting as normal buttons - have you ever tried to pump fake with L on an Xbox? I can't do it). Hopefully the visuals aren't the only real improvement for 2K5, and the PS2 version has a valid chance to improve on 2K4, although I'm sure users of both consoles will be satisfied.

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                      • spankdatazz22
                        All Star
                        • May 2003
                        • 6219

                        #26
                        Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

                        Is there a PS2-style controller available for the XBox, and can buttons be mapped to reflect those of the controller?

                        I think I'm going to buy an XBox (not just for ESPN 2K5), but I prefer the functionality of the PS2's controller. The controller-S is decent, but not big on having to use full trigger buttons; nor the little black/white buttons. But having that hard drive and extra processing power is a big plus.

                        On a side note, I know Ubisoft has been able to port games like Splinter Cell to the PS2 and the graphical drop-off wasn't extremely noticeable, so it's possible to do.
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                        • spankdatazz22
                          All Star
                          • May 2003
                          • 6219

                          #27
                          Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

                          Is there a PS2-style controller available for the XBox, and can buttons be mapped to reflect those of the controller?

                          I think I'm going to buy an XBox (not just for ESPN 2K5), but I prefer the functionality of the PS2's controller. The controller-S is decent, but not big on having to use full trigger buttons; nor the little black/white buttons. But having that hard drive and extra processing power is a big plus.

                          On a side note, I know Ubisoft has been able to port games like Splinter Cell to the PS2 and the graphical drop-off wasn't extremely noticeable, so it's possible to do.
                          HBO's "The Wire" should rank as one of the top 10 shows EVER on tv - period

                          XBL gamertag: d0meBreaker22 (that's a zero)

                          congrats Steelers, city of Pittsburgh, and Steeler Nation - SIX TIME WORLD CHAMPS

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                          • spankdatazz22
                            All Star
                            • May 2003
                            • 6219

                            #28
                            Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

                            Is there a PS2-style controller available for the XBox, and can buttons be mapped to reflect those of the controller?

                            I think I'm going to buy an XBox (not just for ESPN 2K5), but I prefer the functionality of the PS2's controller. The controller-S is decent, but not big on having to use full trigger buttons; nor the little black/white buttons. But having that hard drive and extra processing power is a big plus.

                            On a side note, I know Ubisoft has been able to port games like Splinter Cell to the PS2 and the graphical drop-off wasn't extremely noticeable, so it's possible to do.
                            HBO's "The Wire" should rank as one of the top 10 shows EVER on tv - period

                            XBL gamertag: d0meBreaker22 (that's a zero)

                            congrats Steelers, city of Pittsburgh, and Steeler Nation - SIX TIME WORLD CHAMPS

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                            • Erratic
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 708

                              #29
                              Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

                              I dont want to start a war or anything but if the reason you are buying an xbox is simply for better graphics than that is foolish imo. You could spend the money on a better video card for your comp and play games with better graphics than any systems.

                              There are reasons to buy an xbox (although no reason is good enough to convince myself to purchase one) but simply becasue it has better graphics shouldn't be one imo.

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                              • Erratic
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 708

                                #30
                                Re: Is The PS2 Version Of ESPN 2K5 Going To Use The 2K4 Engine?

                                I dont want to start a war or anything but if the reason you are buying an xbox is simply for better graphics than that is foolish imo. You could spend the money on a better video card for your comp and play games with better graphics than any systems.

                                There are reasons to buy an xbox (although no reason is good enough to convince myself to purchase one) but simply becasue it has better graphics shouldn't be one imo.

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