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  • bigkev
    Pro
    • Apr 2019
    • 911

    #46
    Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

    Aside from having the girls in there, I don't see much better solutions for 2K. We would all like to switch the real life replica course for tournaments like the Masters... but it's an exclusive license that EA got. Same with the 3 other Majors and some of the courses they have in their game. The other alternative for them is to get a cease and desist or being sued.

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    • MrArlingtonBeach
      MVP
      • Feb 2009
      • 4528

      #47
      Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

      Originally posted by bigkev
      Aside from having the girls in there, I don't see much better solutions for 2K. We would all like to switch the real life replica course for tournaments like the Masters... but it's an exclusive license that EA got. Same with the 3 other Majors and some of the courses they have in their game. The other alternative for them is to get a cease and desist or being sued.
      I think my biggest issue with the use of a 2K approved, curated career mode course list is that I like to create courses in the game myself, using the course creator that's included in the game. And many of the courses I create are fictional and not real ones that could cause the legal issues. Why can't I use those in the career mode?

      I mean, I understand why they are limiting the courses you can use. But it's super disappointing as someone who uses the designer and was hoping we could make courses that would be used in career mode - not even real-life ones.

      Overall, the addition of any kind of career mode schedule customization is a big plus, that for sure. I just hope 2K keeps that approved list updated frequently and includes more than just ones done by "NextMakers".
      Last edited by MrArlingtonBeach; 09-22-2022, 12:59 AM.
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      • golfnut67
        Pro
        • Oct 2021
        • 860

        #48
        Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

        I am actually stunned that Career Mode, which is obviously all about the FedEx Cup, is going to include LPGA players in it. I've read the posts that say, get over it, it's more inclusive, etc. But none of that holds water.

        It seems pretty obvious what's happened is that it's a by-product of the "big upgrade" of having playable pros for the first time, including LPGA pros, which is awesome, especially for people who want to play as a a pro. Very cool indeed that they included women playable pros.

        But now it seems Career Mode is like LIV exhibition golf, "Battle Royale" as it was stated here earlier...because they didn't take the time to separate/delineate the playable pros from the actual Career Mode FedEx Cup season. With the emphasis on Rival pros, LPGA players included, it's like they are taking the only real "breakthrough" with this version (play as a Pro!), and forcing it into Career Mode.

        How does any of this make this a more realistic and immersive *PGA Tour Fedex Cup* tour experience?

        They've really made a huge mistake here, by integrating LPGA players into what is supposed to be a much more realistic, true to schedule, true to life, immersive Career Mode, if what we are seeing is in the final product.

        All we've been asking for in Career Mode is, more customization of courses (and we get it that we can't insert obvious Masters courses, etc, for legal reasons), fix the leaderboards (sounds like they might be OK now) and do anything to make playing alone in multiple Career Mode seasons more true to life and more immersive.

        Of course I'm still buying the game. But damn...

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        • jr86
          MVP
          • Jan 2009
          • 1728

          #49
          Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

          Can someone explain to me why in NBA2k how practically any court in the world whether it's from Turkey/Spain the US etc can be perfectly replicated in the designer and used as an expansion team in the MY NBA mode and 2k seemingly doesn't bat an eyelid for fear of copyright or being sued but wants to 'Vet' the courses we swap out for fear of this exact issue....

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52728

            #50
            Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

            Originally posted by jr86
            Can someone explain to me why in NBA2k how practically any court in the world whether it's from Turkey/Spain the US etc can be perfectly replicated in the designer and used as an expansion team in the MY NBA mode and 2k seemingly doesn't bat an eyelid for fear of copyright or being sued but wants to 'Vet' the courses we swap out for fear of this exact issue....


            Because no other NBA video game holds the license to those courts.

            EA has the “exclusive” license to use certain courses in their game they are releasing in competition with 2K


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            • jr86
              MVP
              • Jan 2009
              • 1728

              #51
              Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

              Originally posted by countryboy
              Because no other NBA video game holds the license to those courts.

              EA has the “exclusive” license to use certain courses in their game they are releasing in competition with 2K


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              Hmm not sure that's correct, I'm pretty sure EA holds the rights to MSG but that doesn't stop me replicating and sharing it on NBA 2k?
              But if what you are saying is true then it will be simply be the ones EA holds the rights too and not pretty much every RCR?

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52728

                #52
                Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

                Originally posted by jr86
                Hmm not sure that's correct, I'm pretty sure EA holds the rights to MSG but that doesn't stop me replicating and sharing it on NBA 2k?
                But if what you are saying is true then it will be simply be the ones EA holds the rights too and not pretty much every RCR?
                Then I don't know. I didn't know EA had the rights to MSG as I don't dabble in the NBA games.
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                • MrArlingtonBeach
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 4528

                  #53
                  Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

                  My biggest hang-up with the whole 2K-curated list of "approved" courses in career mode is that 2K touts its course designer, a feature that sets the game apart from the competition, yet you cannot use the courses you make in it in career mode.

                  Seems like a way to neuter the designer, removing what could have been a really nice way to allow players to get even more mileage out of their personal creations. Instead, you have to rely on 2K/HB to keep the list updated frequently, and to include courses that you actually want to add in to the schedule.
                  Last edited by MrArlingtonBeach; 09-22-2022, 09:24 AM.
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                  • MrArlingtonBeach
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4528

                    #54
                    Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

                    Here's CrazyCanuck's look at career mode:



                    The more I see of career mode the more disappointment I feel. There are a couple nice additions/updates, but everything else seems the same as it was before, or is just too silly or unrealistic.

                    The rivals thing is nonsensical - you beat your rival with a mix of Stableford and Match Play? Um, OK? You're always paired with your rival no matter what, too. Also, they said that after you beat all your rivals, you just start over and you go through them all again...just weird. I wish this rivals thing would go away. It may actually be more annoying and silly in 2K23 than it was in 2K21.

                    It also seems like everyone will immediately turn off the pro highlights again...Canuck didn't show any, and the ones seen in other videos still have problems. I've seen the wrong score/shot shown again, watched highlights of putts where they never show the ball, etc.

                    And even the NextMakers are sounding kind of disappointed on how they feel about career mode...when the biggest improvements mentioned in a career mode video are that the trees look better, the menu soundtrack is good, and the sound of the ball off the club is improved, my anticipation levels begin to drop. They try to put on the good face, saying "I'll play it more than I did in 2K21", but that's not saying much...
                    Last edited by MrArlingtonBeach; 09-22-2022, 10:51 AM.
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                    • cjacks17
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 385

                      #55
                      Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

                      It's just not enough to justify a purchase for me.

                      2 years and this is where you land?

                      There's clearly some things we wanted, but not nearly enough given the dev window.

                      I really, really thought EA would push them to up the ante and I just feel super letdown.

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                      • C.J.S.
                        graphic artist
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 512

                        #56
                        Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

                        the ball still doesn't react to the gallery, goes straight through them

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                        • DaKingPin87
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2019
                          • 63

                          #57
                          Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

                          To me, PGA 2k23 is not about career mode realism at all. I think, to their credit, they already understand that the EA game is going to beat them on the realism component and experience.

                          The 2k magic with this game, like 2k21 to me is with online societies and appealing to casual golf people. As long as the societies remain flexible, people will create PGA tour societies with more accurate schedules that resemble the tour.

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                          • OnlookerDelay
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3444

                            #58
                            Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

                            Originally posted by DaKingPin87
                            To me, PGA 2k23 is not about career mode realism at all. I think, to their credit, they already understand that the EA game is going to beat them on the realism component and experience.

                            The 2k magic with this game, like 2k21 to me is with online societies and appealing to casual golf people. As long as the societies remain flexible, people will create PGA tour societies with more accurate schedules that resemble the tour.
                            Well said and you're right, it's the mostly unrestricted society play that will keep me in this game just like it did in 2K21. I've already written of career mode in 2K23 based on how badly it's hand-cuffed yet again!
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                            • MrArlingtonBeach
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 4528

                              #59
                              Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

                              Originally posted by DaKingPin87
                              To me, PGA 2k23 is not about career mode realism at all. I think, to their credit, they already understand that the EA game is going to beat them on the realism component and experience.

                              The 2k magic with this game, like 2k21 to me is with online societies and appealing to casual golf people. As long as the societies remain flexible, people will create PGA tour societies with more accurate schedules that resemble the tour.
                              It's interesting, as I always got the impression that 2K/HB were trying to capture more of a "simulation" game. That's why they never had player attributes before, and basically put everyone on the same, level playing field in terms of player creation...your created player never had personal attributes until 2K23. It was all about the individual player's skill, using their controller and beating others or the CPU strictly based on their real-life abilities in terms of virtually swinging a golf club.

                              But it surely does seem that they are making a pretty seismic shift to the world of the "arcade" for this upcoming game, trying to "differentiate" every player and make us all grind to reach a final player build. The Skills and Fittings are huge swings into an arcade-y way of doing things. Giving a player a boost when they miss three fairways to "support" them? That's super arcade-style play that I never thought I'd see 2K/HB embrace.

                              And even one of the player attributes is related to the lie range/percentage...if I remember right, the videos and content creators mentioned that your "Lie Range" attribute directly affects the size of the lie range and actually might give you a better lie if your attribute is higher.

                              I do agree that society play seems to be the draw for most. But this was a huge content drop that seems like it was supposed to blow people away with the awesomeness of MyPlayer and MyCareer. Instead, it seems to have fallen flat for me...it shows that things have shifted way more into the arcade style than I anticipated, and also showed that MyCareer is more of the same - if not more unrealistic.
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                              • TheBleedingRed21
                                Game Dev
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 5071

                                #60
                                Re: PGA Tour 2K23 MyPlayer and MyCareer Details And Early Impressions

                                Well.. graphics seem like they are falling behind, still looks like early PS4 days. But was to be expected until they change engines.

                                I am with you guys, how in the WORLD did they allow LPGA players to appear in your PGA TOUR? Like what in the actual heck? lol.

                                Also, only seen two videos but Tiger Woods was leading both of those as usual, hope its not another leaderboard issue where the same guy wins every time which made 2K21 unplayable.
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