A little over the top, but a pretty good flick. Much more emotional than I thought it would be. It's not doing greatl w critics, but the audience clapped when it was over so that's a good sign for the box office.
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Re: Superman Man Of Steel
Basically if you could be one superhero it would be Superman. He's the beatles of superhero's. Their's Superman then their'severybody else. Superman is my fave but I also love other characters both from DC and Marvel.Better question. What's so appealing about Superman?
He's a Mary Sue. He's literally perfect. He has the complexion of a caucasian, he's built like a world class bodybuilder, he has supermodel level looks, his intelligence while not genuis level (I don't think) still makes him smarter than the average person, he's invulnerable, can fly, is super strong, has x-ray vision, has heat vision, has freeze breath, has morals, is a master of disguise, and doesn't die even when thrown into the sun."If you don't have anything good to say, say it often"- Ed the sockComment
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"If you don't have anything good to say, say it often"- Ed the sockComment
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“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
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Re: Superman Man Of Steel
Yeah I got some t shirts, a couple of posters, action figure, and soundtrack. I think i might buy the Hot Toys Man of Steel it looks good.“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
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This movie was okay. It was great in some areas but poorly done in others. I don't hate the film. I also don't love it, or even like it very much. I think the critics are right on with their assessment.
The film had a solid first half and then some before turning to every forced film trope known to man to seal the deal.
There are SPOILERS below. Don't read a review if you haven't seen the film.
There are two major reasons this film failed in my eyes (and it has nothing to do with fight choreography or Donner's Superman).
The first is Superman doesn't save the day. I know you're going to say he killed General Zod! Sure, he did that but who was he saving by killing Zod? Ask yourself that question. Done?
Okay. If you thought about it, you'd realize the fight between Zod and Superman was personal. Prior to that Zod did intend to destroy humans but guess who stopped him from doing that?
Oh, everyone BUT Superman! Sure Superman distracted the enemies, threw some punches and even stopped Zod from destroying the ship carrying his crib, but did Superman actually stop them? No. He didn't save the day.
Someone else pushed a key in. Someone else landed the ship. Someone else told him how to do it!
That's a huge issue. In fact Superman actually killed thousands of people but the film glosses over that to build up the dramatic scene of a family of four nearly being melted by Zod.
Okay so Superman saved them! Wow. I watched 2.5 hours of film to watch Superman save four people?
Again, we are being asked to ignore that Superman had zero issue with throwing enemies straight through apartment buildings where real life actual people live! A good five mile radius of Metropolis was destroyed! What happened to the people in those buildings? They died.
So why should I suddenly believe Superman actually did any saving when he killed thousands of people to save four?
And you have to acknowledge how much that destroys my perception of the film when Superman's resolution is snapping the neck of his enemy. That's all he had to do?!
I read someone say: "because he doesn't kill." You're right. Except Superman did kill. He also just helped raise taxes for everyone in Metropolis.
If Superman knew he needed to help, he should have dragged Zod to the middle of the ocean or to, oh, I don't know, an area surrounded by nothing but farmland. It's not like he doesn't know where that place exists. He's as American as they come, right?
The second issue is the forced love scenes with Lois and Clark. Look, this film was supposed to be about Superman being accepted by humans (more on this later).
That's the freaking love story! This man does not know if humans will accept him. He's been taught they won't. He has trust issues. They have trust issues. And guess what, he suddenly walks through a line of soldiers and they drop their weapons. They love him!
Superman has all the reason to stop Zod and his army. He's going to save mankind, damnit.
Done.
No. Instead we get this awkward forced love story between him and Lois. But why do they like each other? I don't know. Because. That's the reason. Because. It's just supposed to happen. She's Lois Lane, CMH. Don't you know Lois and Clark end up together so they can make a prime time television series that stars Dean Cain?
Really. Ask yourself when these two people had an opportunity to actually develop a relationship? They didn't. They barely even spoke.
Oh but he saved her from falling twice. Not once. Twice!
He also saved a fat kid from drowning. They aren't best buds. Why would they be?
It's forced. It makes no sense. Therefore it hurt the film.
However, the film was great before the kiss. If you notice, my complaints are mostly after the kiss. From Zod, to killing innocent people, to making out with the opposite star.
The development of Superman was superb. My complaints with every Superman film was the lack of making the character relatable to us. He can't relate. He's super strong.
But this film made us relate. He's the outsider. He's the alien. A great majority of the population feels that way. They can relate to Clark's struggles, to wanting to know who he is and what he stands for in life. That was beautifully done.
I thought the flashbacks were well-done.
I also really enjoyed the fight scenes. I liked them mostly because the film built up to the action. They spent a good hour plus developing the character, making a solid story and then turning up the notch and blowing our minds with intense fight scenes.
It's just too bad the end of the film ruined the beginning.
I already know most people disagree with my thoughts on films so I wouldn't tell anyone not to watch the film. I think a lot of people will love it. I also don't hold myself in that high regard. You're not a moron for liking the film.
But the misses affect me. I can't accept what they did to the film after the good it had.
Sent from my mobile device.Last edited by CMH; 06-16-2013, 07:26 PM."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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SpoilerWell technically he did save the day, he destroyed the world creator thing that if it kept going would have killed 7 billion people or what not. Him destroying it then just allowed them to put Zod's forces back into the phantom zone. I do agree with the destruction of Metropolis, but who knows how many people were actually left in those buildings at the point and I can only assume he helped rebuild.
It'll be interesting to see if any of those things were done on purpose for the sequel or if they are just plot holes.Saints, LSU, Seminoles, Pelicans, Marlins, LightningComment
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Okay good point. He did do that.SpoilerWell technically he did save the day, he destroyed the world creator thing that if it kept going would have killed 7 billion people or what not. Him destroying it then just allowed them to put Zod's forces back into the phantom zone. I do agree with the destruction of Metropolis, but who knows how many people were actually left in those buildings at the point and I can only assume he helped rebuild.
It'll be interesting to see if any of those things were done on purpose for the sequel or if they are just plot holes.
I don't know why that didn't affect me as much. Felt like that entire scene wasn't a focal point of the plot. But that's probably just me.
Sent from my mobile device."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Re: Superman Man Of Steel
SpoilerWell technically he did save the day, he destroyed the world creator thing that if it kept going would have killed 7 billion people or what not. Him destroying it then just allowed them to put Zod's forces back into the phantom zone. I do agree with the destruction of Metropolis, but who knows how many people were actually left in those buildings at the point and I can only assume he helped rebuild.
It'll be interesting to see if any of those things were done on purpose for the sequel or if they are just plot holes.
Spoileragreed, in order for the plan to succeed Superman had to destroy the device.Comment
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"It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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Re: Superman Man Of Steel
CMH...
These are just points you missed due to a noisy theater or whatever...
SpoilerIf Superman hadn't destroyed the world engine in the Indianan ocean the airship would have been unable to deliver it's payload... that was the conversation they were having on the tarmac. When Lois was worried that the terra forming effects to a Kryptonian atmosphere would weaken him near the machine. he was the only one who had a shot at stopping it so he had to try. That makes it a team effort which was never intended to be a suicide mission.
Then post sending the rest back to phantom zone...Zod clearly states he's going to punish the whole world for robbing him of his destiny. I agree the plan of trying to lure him to a more abandoned area would have been a sound one but Zod was clearly not having it. I know people keep coming back to the collateral damage of the fight scenes but I think the logic was sound. You would concentrate on trying to stop Zod as long as Zod was intent on punishing the planet.
The romance is indeed more problematic... but as I have said in other posts, I am quite sure a lot of stuff ended up on the editing floor that might have helped some with it. I was fine with it...the scene at his fathers grave established a mutual admiration for each other. Combine that with a physical attraction and the danger and I can imagine much worse reasons for a first kissComment



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