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  • Seymour Scagnetti
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 2489

    #286
    Re: Dexter (Season 6)

    I'll a little stunned that you guys enjoyed this week's episode. This is no longer mut watch TV for me and I just watched it today and as a unintentional comedy it worked wonders. It may have been a throwaway show but they threw it right into the gutter. It may have been the worst episode of the entire series. It was so sloppily done that it was approaching the parody level. Here is my longwinded gripes (and there is lots).

    Everything was done haphazardly, they made Brian super annoying, I wanted Dexter to kill him again after 20 minutes. I wanted the series to explore Dexter's dark urges to kill anyone whether they deserve it or not and it lasts one episode? That should be good for an entire season and they are using it as a filler show.

    With this show you have to suspend reality because of plot holes but now it's getting ridiculous. Dexter goes to the house without bothering to check if there was a car in the driveway to see if the son was there? If the son came home while he was in there how could Dexter not hear his car door slam or the front door opening? And how the hell did Dexter know where the exact address of the family was? It's witness protection, that info would not be available to the blood splatter guy. And how did he know where the son worked? Is that in the police files as well that Dex could easily access?

    If Trinity had been the killer the FBI would have been all over the house with a fine tooth comb and Dexter after 2 minutes figures out how the son kills the mother by obvious blood splatters on the ceiling that the Nebraska police missed? They are apparently as stupid as the Miami police. The son kills his mother in a rage which you think would be pretty sloppy and he says it's Trinity and the cops buy it. If Dexter figures like father like son, wouldn't the cops as well? And how convenient is it that the daughter kills herself in a bathtub, did she knowingly decide to off herself in a misguided attempt to place the blame on Trinity for later? Really?

    And why is it every random guy Dexter runs into is some dark criminal like the hotel owner. This guy has the worst luck in the world. And the guy has a gun pointed at Dex yet Dex was fast enough to turn around and grab a pitchfork and stab him before the guy has a chance to shoot? The guy is like the Flash.

    And the scenes Dexter pimps himself out to get a gun (why does he need a gun in the 1st place? He never kills anyone with a gun and why would he start with Trinity's son? Oh it's needed so the hotel owner can point it at him later) and shoots guns into the air reminds me when Peter Parker becomes Emo in Spiderman 3. Dex has never acted like that in his life but now he becomes the hollering cowboy because of his dark side. It was cringe worthy. At least SP3 had the excuse of an alien influence.

    This season started out pretty well but it is sinking fast and may end up the worst ever. Geller is obviously not real and now it's looking more and more like that is the big twist for the season when anyone with half a brain have already figured it out by now. You can't hide that twist for an entire season. Dexter has already caught Travis easily so there is absolutely no tension left. Does anyone really take Travis seriously as an adversary for Dexter because they sure have portrayed him as a big weenie who lets people go when he feels guilty and can't even figure out that Dex is following him. The bad writing is starting to show.

    People may think I'm negative but I think I brought up valid points. There were more plot holes in this one episode then there was in the entire 1st season and it really makes it hard to take it seriously when the writers can make up whatever they want to suit thier needs. I have more interest in watching now just to see how much of a trainwreck it is which pisses me off because of how the series has become so sloppy and half hearted.

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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #287
      Re: Dexter (Season 6)

      All I can say to that is Dexter the series has been in the suspension of disbelief zone for a long while now. I think you just gotta accept it or be bothered by it.
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #288
        Re: Dexter (Season 6)

        I mean its all good, theres not a show in the entertainment forum where at least someone isnt saying "This show isnt as good as it used to be, the writers are bored\ not trying" Its the nature of of the net....

        Most of us are enjoying it though, I know I am, its the same show I fell in love with....and I cant wait to see the next episode....like CMH said, youll love it or hate it.

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        • Seymour Scagnetti
          Banned
          • Oct 2006
          • 2489

          #289
          Re: Dexter (Season 6)

          I get it but this bipolar writing is becoming distracting and it's bad sign when the weakest scenes are the ones with Dexter and the better scenes are the ones with the secondary characters. The last thing I expected with Brian showing up was a Nebraska road trip that resembled a National Lampoon movie. The only redeeming quality of this season was the Mos Def character and they ended up killing him off. They can't do anything right.

          All I know is if they go the incredibly predictable route and have Travis kidnapping the babysitter and Harrison as the last sacrifice (a Mary and Jesus thing perhaps?) then I think the show has officially jumped the shark of biblical proportions.

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          • JayBee74
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 22989

            #290
            Re: Dexter (Season 6)

            Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
            Everything was done haphazardly, they made Brian super annoying, I wanted Dexter to kill him again after 20 minutes. I wanted the series to explore Dexter's dark urges to kill anyone whether they deserve it or not and it lasts one episode? That should be good for an entire season and they are using it as a filler show.
            What would have been really annoying is if Brian had continued anymore this season.

            Does anybody really want Dexter to kill people at random or toy with that idea for the rest of the season? Not me.

            Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
            If Trinity had been the killer the FBI would have been all over the house with a fine tooth comb and Dexter after 2 minutes figures out how the son kills the mother by obvious blood splatters on the ceiling that the Nebraska police missed? They are apparently as stupid as the Miami police.
            But Dexter knew that Trinity was dead. That vital piece of knowledge along with Dexter's brilliance put him two steps ahead of the FBI and/or police.

            However it seems like the investigation could have shown that the daughter committed suicide.

            Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
            And why is it every random guy Dexter runs into is some dark criminal like the hotel owner. This guy has the worst luck in the world. And the guy has a gun pointed at Dex yet Dex was fast enough to turn around and grab a pitchfork and stab him before the guy has a chance to shoot? The guy is like the Flash.
            Implausible. I was also looking for a red suit and thunderbolt under Dex's shirt after that move. Yeah, the hotel owner was an obvious convenience. I'm not one to object to such things if they work well, but this wasn't great stuff.

            Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
            And the scenes Dexter pimps himself out to get a gun (why does he need a gun in the 1st place? He never kills anyone with a gun and why would he start with Trinity's son?
            Didn't understand that and what's with the easy sex with a hot babe cliche? Justin Timberlake would have taken at least an hour to unclothe that girl. And Dexter gets her hot by talking about how his mom died? (or was he just thinking that?)

            Liked the episode, didn't love it. As a matter of fact the low episode of the season for me. I think what CMH posted (All I can say to that is Dexter the series has been in the suspension of disbelief zone for a long while now. I think you just gotta accept it or be bothered by it.) applies here, but not in every episode.

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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39373

              #291
              Re: Dexter (Season 6)

              Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
              I get it but this bipolar writing is becoming distracting and it's bad sign when the weakest scenes are the ones with Dexter and the better scenes are the ones with the secondary characters. The last thing I expected with Brian showing up was a Nebraska road trip that resembled a National Lampoon movie. The only redeeming quality of this season was the Mos Def character and they ended up killing him off. They can't do anything right.

              All I know is if they go the incredibly predictable route and have Travis kidnapping the babysitter and Harrison as the last sacrifice (a Mary and Jesus thing perhaps?) then I think the show has officially jumped the shark of biblical proportions.
              I would just call it a day man....I just cant imagine why your still watching this show.....with Netflix, Hulu and the amount of good series on TV now.....why torture yourself?

              I "understand" your frustrations...but it might be time to move on.

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              • jeremym480
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                • Oct 2008
                • 18197

                #292
                Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                I would just call it a day man....I just cant imagine why your still watching this show.....with Netflix, Hulu and the amount of good series on TV now.....why torture yourself?

                I "understand" your frustrations...but it might be time to move on.
                He likes to complain about the show too much to do that. He'll be back next week with his weekly rant. Same bat time, same bat channel. Trust me.
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                • Seymour Scagnetti
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2489

                  #293
                  Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                  Originally posted by JayBee74
                  Does anybody really want Dexter to kill people at random or toy with that idea for the rest of the season? Not me.

                  But Dexter knew that Trinity was dead. That vital piece of knowledge along with Dexter's brilliance put him two steps ahead of the FBI and/or police.

                  Liked the episode, didn't love it. As a matter of fact the low episode of the season for me. I think what CMH posted (All I can say to that is Dexter the series has been in the suspension of disbelief zone for a long while now. I think you just gotta accept it or be bothered by it.) applies here, but not in every episode.
                  To me the generic serial killer who commits ritual killings and matches wits against Dexter is really getting stale especially when Hanks is such a weak villain.

                  They could have went in so many interesting directions with Trinity's family knowing who he was and they wasted the opportunity. And the blood being on the wall without the FBI noticing is so out there. I know Dexter is a sharp guy but they make everyone else on the show feel more at home in a Leslie Neilson movie.

                  This show has always had a humurous bent but it was much more dark in the 1st 2 seasons, now they are just going for cheap sitcom laughs and bizarre coincidences.

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                  • JayBee74
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 22989

                    #294
                    Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                    I would just call it a day man....I just cant imagine why your still watching this show.....with Netflix, Hulu and the amount of good series on TV now.....why torture yourself?

                    I "understand" your frustrations...but it might be time to move on.
                    I think he's just watching and hoping it will get better for him.

                    Happened to me with The League. My criticism of the show was usually met with being ignored. Finally about three shows ago I just let go of it. It just wasn't entertaining to me. For 2+ seasons I watched it, mildly amused, but I couldn't quite pull the plug. Sometimes it's like a bad habit.

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                    • JayBee74
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 22989

                      #295
                      Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                      Originally posted by jeremym480
                      He likes to complain about the show too much to do that. He'll be back next week with his weekly rant. Same bat time, same bat channel. Trust me.
                      I gave you a thumbs up on that for the humor aspect.

                      I don't think it's fair to Seymour. As I've said before he gives reasons for not loving Dexter.

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                      • Seymour Scagnetti
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2489

                        #296
                        Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                        Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                        I would just call it a day man....I just cant imagine why your still watching this show.....with Netflix, Hulu and the amount of good series on TV now.....why torture yourself?

                        I "understand" your frustrations...but it might be time to move on.
                        You invest yourself in the show for so long and the wife still likes to watch it (but even she was rolling her eyes this last episode) but I'll be honest if I have other things to do on Sunday I won;t bother watching. I didn;t watch the 1st 4 shows until weeks later. I think I get more pleasure out of seeing how bad it's become but yeah I'll stop bitching about it on here because people (not you or Jaybee and some others) here seem to get personally offended if too much criticism is levelled out. I remember getting banned for a week because I made 2 posts pointing how silly Avatar was. (was actually challenged by a poster and I guess he didn't like the answer.) Some posters here seem to be really sensitive if there isn't a complete lovefest for a particular movie or show. I post on RT and no one takes prsonal offense and dissenting (as long as it's backed up and not just trolling) views are welcome.
                        Last edited by Seymour Scagnetti; 11-16-2011, 10:16 PM.

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                        • Seymour Scagnetti
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2489

                          #297
                          Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                          Originally posted by JayBee74
                          I think he's just watching and hoping it will get better for him.

                          Happened to me with The League. My criticism of the show was usually met with being ignored. Finally about three shows ago I just let go of it. It just wasn't entertaining to me. For 2+ seasons I watched it, mildly amused, but I couldn't quite pull the plug. Sometimes it's like a bad habit.
                          Perfectly said Jaybee and it's always fun debating the merits and failings of the show with you.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #298
                            Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                            As long as you're breaking down the reasons why you're unhappy, I don't see why you should worry.

                            I don't want to see just: "This last week's episode was AWESOME!" in every post.

                            It is however easier to ask why someone still watches if they're unhappy with it, so that's going to happen. But, hey, it's not my hour in the day, so if you're still watching because you want to then keep watching.

                            I know you, Seymour, and I know that you don't walk into film & television threads to just say "This sucks!" You've always done a good job of explaining why it doesn't work for you. It's the same thing we want in the game threads so would be hypocritical of me to suggest you walk away.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • Seymour Scagnetti
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 2489

                              #299
                              Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                              Originally posted by CMH
                              As long as you're breaking down the reasons why you're unhappy, I don't see why you should worry.

                              I don't want to see just: "This last week's episode was AWESOME!" in every post.

                              It is however easier to ask why someone still watches if they're unhappy with it, so that's going to happen. But, hey, it's not my hour in the day, so if you're still watching because you want to then keep watching.

                              I know you, Seymour, and I know that you don't walk into film & television threads to just say "This sucks!" You've always done a good job of explaining why it doesn't work for you. It's the same thing we want in the game threads so would be hypocritical of me to suggest you walk away.
                              Sounds good, after a very short absence I'm back. Sorry to those who don't want the constructive criticism.

                              To be honest I'm more of a movie and sports guy for TV viewing and Dexter and Game of Thrones (which I have no complaints about. Great, great show) are really the only current TV shows that I watch so yeah when 50% of my TV showing viewing starts getting a little silly it's still hard to stop watching just out of habit.

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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #300
                                Re: Dexter (Season 6)

                                That's cool. I was just trying to understand..

                                If I had a laundry list of faults as long as some of these posts, I wouldve stopped watching a LONG time ago, (like ive done with alot of shows) but that's just me. Thats my theory with everything, including gaming. Ive given up on 2k12 (and I have a loooong list of complaints) but I've left the forum alone for people who enjoy it. Hey, I don't want a bunch of simple "this is awesome" posts either....like a few pages back was a very constructive discussion about ideas/theorys that was fun to engage in...and that's why I come to the thread.

                                Oh well....it's all good. Your complaints don't bother me, I'm not a writer on the series lol.....
                                Last edited by The 24th Letter; 11-17-2011, 08:49 AM.

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