Halloween 2018

[PVarck31]

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Always been a big Halloween fan. I have the collectors limited edition box set on blu ray and love all of the extras and commentaries. In fact, i mostly listen to the commentaries while the movies are playing than listening the movie itself.

H6 Producer's cut, Halloween 1978, HII and H4 are my favorites.

I am a purist, though I will admit that the first part of RZ Halloween was awesome. It was after The Shape broke out that the rest of the movie seemed rushed and squished together which disappointed me. RZ H2 ruined the Halloween series so unfortunately it has to go back in time to cancel this atrocity.

Right now the timelines are:

Halloween
Halloween II
Halloween H2O
Halloween Ressurection

Halloween
Halloween 2, 4, 5, 6 (theatrical cut)

It seems as though this movie is a direct sequel to Halloween and Halloween 2 which will nix all of the other timelines. I personally like the idea as this timeline will start off fresh with arguably the two best movies in the franchise.

I would kill off Loomis. Just say he didn't survive the blast in H2. Get some new blood involved in the franchise instead of rehashing the same old stuff. I would even nix Laurie Strode completely and go back to Myers just being The Shape and evil driving him, rather than bloodlines. Get back to basics.

I totally agree with killing off Loomis. It makes sense.

But I can't say I agree with trashing the bloodline story. You say get back to basics, but the bloodline story is the basics. It's what created so much tension in the first two. Michael exists to kill Laurie Strode. I think you could do some kind of ending where he finally kills Laurie and end on a cliffhanger as to whether he is done killing or not to leave the door open for sequels.

I just think if you are bringing back the series and continuing from the first two you have to have that arc with he and Laurie.

And not that your idea couldn't work, I just would like to see the bloodline story continue for at least this movie.


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[PeoplesChampGB]

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I totally agree with killing off Loomis. It makes sense.

But I can't say I agree with trashing the bloodline story. You say get back to basics, but the bloodline story is the basics. It's what created so much tension in the first two. Michael exists to kill Laurie Strode. I think you could do some kind of ending where he finally kills Laurie and end on a cliffhanger as to whether he is done killing or not to leave the door open for sequels.

I just think if you are bringing back the series and continuing from the first two you have to have that arc with he and Laurie.

And not that your idea couldn't work, I just would like to see the bloodline story continue for at least this movie.


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I admit, I have a bias to getting away from the bloodline story. It was never Carpenter's intent to have any bloodline between Myers and Laurie.

[Armor and Sword]

Halloween 2018 (Working Title)

I admit, I have a bias to getting away from the bloodline story. It was never Carpenter's intent to have any bloodline between Myers and Laurie.

After I saw the original on a rainy 1981 Halloween night on Network TV (I was 11) for the very first time. I had thought he pursued Laurie because she was the first girl he saw (along with Tommy Doyle) when she dropped the keys off at the old Myers house. He then stalked Tommy at school as well.

What a creepy freaking movie to watch alone, on Halloween night back in 1981.

By far my all time favorite horror movie.


Of course I begged my mom to take me to the sequel the very next week.

Awesome sauce.

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[PeoplesChampGB]

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I wish I could've seen the original in theaters. The only one I have been able to see that wasn't RZ's in a theater was H2O when I was 12. My mother took me and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[PVarck31]

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I get that it's not established that she is his sister till part II. (That is correct, right?)

But the way he stalks her and has an affinity for her kinda foreshadows more to the the story than just killing to kill. Since Carpenter established it part II when Sheriff Brackett told Loomis, (Again, I think that's right. It's been a long time since I've intently watched the movies in order.) one would think this could have been his intent for the series.

I don't know, maybe I'm off or trying too hard to establish this. lol

[PeoplesChampGB]

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I get that it's not established that she is his sister till part II. (That is correct, right?)

Correct.

But the way he stalks her and has an affinity for her kinda foreshadows more to the the story than just killing to kill. Since Carpenter established it part II when Sheriff Brackett told Loomis,

It was the nurse that tells Loomis.

(Again, I think that's right. It's been a long time since I've intently watched the movies in order.) one would think this could have been his intent for the series.

I don't know, maybe I'm off or trying too hard to establish this. lol

Nah, it's cool. I understand where you are coming from. I just think if you go the bloodline route it diminishes The Shape. The Shape is about evil in its purest form. A supernatural force. To me establishing a motive for his killing gives him a more human feel and takes away from what he originally was supposed to be. I hope that makes sense.

But, like I said, I am a huge Halloween and Myers mark. I hold The Shape above any other slasher killers in the movies. He is the Michael Jordan of mass murderers to me.

[HealyMonster]

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Correct.



It was the nurse that tells Loomis.



Nah, it's cool. I understand where you are coming from. I just think if you go the bloodline route it diminishes The Shape. The Shape is about evil in its purest form. A supernatural force. To me establishing a motive for his killing gives him a more human feel and takes away from what he originally was supposed to be. I hope that makes sense.

But, like I said, I am a huge Halloween and Myers mark. I hold The Shape above any other slasher killers in the movies. He is the Michael Jordan of mass murderers to me.

I feel the same way. It was really the only movies that truly terrified me as a kid. There is just something super creepy about Halloween 1-2. 4-5 were OK, I was older when i saw them for the first time, so it did have that cant go to sleep because im scared after watching thing going on, but they were good.

First disappointment was H6. Actually the whole Jamie becoming psychic after the way 4 ended, they sort of blew it there. Then 6 I just didnt like at all, some cult was keeping Michael Myers in hiding, all that was nonsense.

H2O was ok, it hit the nostalgia nerve, but all in all I dont think it was a good Halloween movie, watched it not that long ago, they barely even play the Halloween song in it, it seemed less Halloween, more trying to be a blockbuster horror flick of the time, like a scream, or something else.

Lets not talk about resurrection.

Zombies first one was OK until the last quarter of the first flick. His part 2 was a mess.

Looking forward to what the new one with Carpenter is about, but we are looking at 20-30 years since a real Halloween came out if you really think of it, Mostly trash since the mid to late 80's

[Armor and Sword]

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I feel the same way. It was really the only movies that truly terrified me as a kid. There is just something super creepy about Halloween 1-2. 4-5 were OK, I was older when i saw them for the first time, so it did have that cant go to sleep because im scared after watching thing going on, but they were good.

First disappointment was H6. Actually the whole Jamie becoming psychic after the way 4 ended, they sort of blew it there. Then 6 I just didnt like at all, some cult was keeping Michael Myers in hiding, all that was nonsense.

H2O was ok, it hit the nostalgia nerve, but all in all I dont think it was a good Halloween movie, watched it not that long ago, they barely even play the Halloween song in it, it seemed less Halloween, more trying to be a blockbuster horror flick of the time, like a scream, or something else.

Lets not talk about resurrection.

Zombies first one was OK until the last quarter of the first flick. His part 2 was a mess.

Looking forward to what the new one with Carpenter is about, but we are looking at 20-30 years since a real Halloween came out if you really think of it, Mostly trash since the mid to late 80's

Yeah pretty much on the same page. 4 was the last truly really good Halloween movie. I was 18 when that one came out and it had the 1978 vibe all over it.

5 was disjointed. One of the corniest lines in that movie and I love reciting it and my son and wife crack up every time (we are a Halloween junkie household just so you know for 12 straight years I have been dressing up as Michael Myers every halloween and we have a huge scene in front of my home which is on a corner in our neighborhood. We have the Halloween 1 and 2 soundtrack on a loop and we are well known as the Myers house. Kids scream and run as well as cry, also taking pictures with me it’s a hoot. My son who is almost 12 years old also dresses up as Myers as well and we both have a blast with it every Halloween).

So back to the line. When Jamie was having her seizure and the Doctor is about to cut a hole in her throat to open her airway Loomis goes:

Leave her!!! She will stabilize!!! You have something to tell us don’t you Jamie?

I swear that kills me every time I see Halloween V. It was over the top Loomis and Donald Pleasance was in rare form.

I have a great feeling now that Carpenter is involved in this latest project we will get a true return to form. It is sorely needed.

I am a Zombie supporter though. His remake to me was crazy. And the first act with Michael’s origin was horrifying. His first kill of the kid who picked on him.....pure terror. Just wow. It gives me chills every time. And Malcolm McDowell was a fantastic cast choice to play Dr. Loomis. He was outstanding.

Unfortunately the sequel was a mess. I can still watch it and appreciate some of the elements of it. Laurie is just so broken at that point. But you really have to like Zombie’s style to appreciate both of his visions. He is well known for being pure white trash and I always have to take a shower after seeing House of 1000 Corpse’s and The Devils Rejects.

Anyway. It is great we are finally getting a new Halloween film and hopefully the script is awesome and we can have another time line to talk about and enjoy.

[HealyMonster]

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Yeah pretty much on the same page. 4 was the last truly really good Halloween movie. I was 18 when that one came out and it had the 1978 vibe all over it.

5 was disjointed. One of the corniest lines in that movie and I love reciting it and my son and wife crack up every time (we are a Halloween junkie household just so you know for 12 straight years I have been dressing up as Michael Myers every halloween and we have a huge scene in front of my home which is on a corner in our neighborhood. We have the Halloween 1 and 2 soundtrack on a loop and we are well known as the Myers house. Kids scream and run as well as cry, also taking pictures with me it’s a hoot. My son who is almost 12 years old also dresses up as Myers as well and we both have a blast with it every Halloween).

So back to the line. When Jamie was having her seizure and the Doctor is about to cut a hole in her throat to open her airway Loomis goes:

Leave her!!! She will stabilize!!! You have something to tell us don’t you Jamie?

I swear that kills me every time I see Halloween V. It was over the top Loomis and Donald Pleasance was in rare form.

I have a great feeling now that Carpenter is involved in this latest project we will get a true return to form. It is sorely needed.

I am a Zombie supporter though. His remake to me was crazy. And the first act with Michael’s origin was horrifying. His first kill of the kid who picked on him.....pure terror. Just wow. It gives me chills every time. And Malcolm McDowell was a fantastic cast choice to play Dr. Loomis. He was outstanding.

Unfortunately the sequel was a mess. I can still watch it and appreciate some of the elements of it. Laurie is just so broken at that point. But you really have to like Zombie’s style to appreciate both of his visions. He is well known for being pure white trash and I always have to take a shower after seeing House of 1000 Corpse’s and The Devils Rejects.

Anyway. It is great we are finally getting a new Halloween film and hopefully the script is awesome and we can have another time line to talk about and enjoy.

Lol worst scene ever

"This girl is dead"

"No you have something to tell us don't you Jamie "

They could have just gone on and made a good movie but they went the other way.

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[PeoplesChampGB]

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Story wise, 6 mightve been a disappointment but that movie had the best scenery, mood and overall tone since the original. I always get a sense of fear, dread, and death when I watch it.

[Armor and Sword]

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Story wise, 6 mightve been a disappointment but that movie had the best scenery, mood and overall tone since the original. I always get a sense of fear, dread, and death when I watch it.

Have you seen the producers cut of that film? It is vastly superior in many ways. They scrapped the whole screeching, wailing guitar riff soundtrack and used the original Carpenter sound track. The story itself is fleshed out so much better as well.

It really is like watching a different version of the film.


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[PVarck31]

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Do you guys know if the blu ray box set has the part 6 producers cut?

I was thinking about picking it up. Its $50 at walmart.

[Armor and Sword]

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Do you guys know if the blu ray box set has the part 6 producers cut?

I was thinking about picking it up. Its $50 at walmart.

Yes it does!!!! But only the Deluxe 15 disc limited edition boxed set. So if you really want the producers cut you can buy that as a stand alone blue ray.

I have that Blue Ray limited edition boxed set and it's great (was $80 bucks when it released now I see people want $200 for it...wow). Love the booklet it comes with, lot's of nice extra's etc. I also have Halloween 25 Years of Terror. That was a great one with the Halloween conventions, the entire production story for the original film, many many cast members from the various films and they talk about each movie with lot's of great stories...just oodles of stuff. It is only on dvd but well worth it. I see it for 31 bucks on Amazon.

Jeez I have the original Halloween on THX DVD remaster, the blue ray remaster, the new boxed set LOL.

Also have the Scream Factory versions of Halloween 2 and 3.

The normal blue ray box set is also $50 bucks on Amazon prime.

Here is the Producers Cut as a stand alone:


https://www.amazon.com/Halloween-VI-...+producers+cut


Halloween 25 Years Of Terror:

https://www.amazon.com/Halloween-Yea...ears+of+terror

[HealyMonster]

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Yes it does!!!! But only the Deluxe 15 disc limited edition boxed set. So if you really want the producers cut you can buy that as a stand alone blue ray.

I have that Blue Ray limited edition boxed set and it's great (was $80 bucks when it released now I see people want $200 for it...wow). Love the booklet it comes with, lot's of nice extra's etc. I also have Halloween 25 Years of Terror. That was a great one with the Halloween conventions, the entire production story for the original film, many many cast members from the various films and they talk about each movie with lot's of great stories...just oodles of stuff. It is only on dvd but well worth it. I see it for 31 bucks on Amazon.

Jeez I have the original Halloween on THX DVD remaster, the blue ray remaster, the new boxed set LOL.

Also have the Scream Factory versions of Halloween 2 and 3.

The normal blue ray box set is also $50 bucks on Amazon prime.

Here is the Producers Cut as a stand alone:


https://www.amazon.com/Halloween-VI-...+producers+cut


Halloween 25 Years Of Terror:

https://www.amazon.com/Halloween-Yea...ears+of+terror

I need to check out the producers cut. Besides the cult stuff, 6 was intense at some parts. Id like to watch it with carpenters score.

[PVarck31]

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I just ordered the part 6 producers cut on Blu-ray from Amazon for $7. Really excited to watch it. Can't believe I never have. I knew it existed, but just never got around to it.

I'm definitely a Halloween fan, I'm just a bigger fan of Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm st. So it always kinda took a back seat. Think I'm gonna buy the blu-ray box set and watch them all again.