Halo 3 Pre-Release Discussion

**The C** · 05-12-2007, 03:00 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

Originally posted by Jistic

See I never understand posts like this. It's like I'm reading the NCAA Football or Madden forums. Isn't this next-gen?

I guess it is, but next-gen doesn't mean realistic graphics. It's just the next generation. They are still constricted by the 360's power.

Can't we have both? Isn't Halo the flagship franchise of the Xbox? This being the supposed final game of the series you'd think they'd strive for that. Why is it that something must always be "sacrificed" for something else to be good?

Look at the demo for Blacksite: Area 51 on the 360. Very good graphics, but the game chugs a bit when more than 4 characters show up on the screen. If explosions start happening you can really see the framerate drop.

Unless you want to see how they animate Halo 3 frame by frame, adding that much detail would detract from the multiplayer experience.

Halo could probably pull pretty Gears graphics, but I sure as hell don't want to have massive 16 player levels with a good frame rate taken away from me.

Graphics aren't the most important thing to me. I don't exactly thing Halo's graphics are even top 10, but they are polished and they work for the game.

**Flawless** · 05-12-2007, 03:10 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

I personally thought the graphics looked great (especially the effects) after downloading the the HD videos from IGN, Gamespot, and Xboxyde. I always liked Halo's simple geometry environments and sharp clean visual style. You're not going to see final graphics in the beta either, although I wouldn't expect them to change greatly come fall, but Bungie has said they will be more polished graphically. I'm looking forward to seeing the singleplayer, this is where I believe Bungie will impress and take chances with gameplay, especially if it's true they're using different engines.

**Jistic** · 05-12-2007, 03:17 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

Originally posted by The C

I guess it is, but next-gen doesn't mean realistic graphics. It's just the next generation. They are still constricted by the 360's power.

Look at the demo for Blacksite: Area 51 on the 360. Very good graphics, but the game chugs a bit when more than 4 characters show up on the screen. If explosions start happening you can really see the framerate drop.

Unless you want to see how they animate Halo 3 frame by frame, adding that much detail would detract from the multiplayer experience.

Halo could probably pull pretty Gears graphics, but I sure as hell don't want to have massive 16 player levels with a good frame rate taken away from me.

Graphics aren't the most important thing to me. I don't exactly thing Halo's graphics are even top 10, but they are polished and they work for the game.

Believe me I understand. It's just funny we go through this same discussion with every sports game. People say they care about gameplay more than graphics, other people think graphics look dated. Others act like it's almost bad to have great graphics saying that people are graphics whores. This the the NCAA argument right now. Frame rate? Or Graphic details? Or why can't we have both?

Hell I want it all.

**Beantown** · 05-12-2007, 03:30 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

Originally posted by Jistic

Hell I want it all.

We all want it all.

The thing is, if we have to take framerate/gameplay or amazing, realistic graphics...I'll take the former on ANY game.

**jfsolo** · 05-12-2007, 03:31 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

Originally posted by Flawless

I personally thought the graphics looked great (especially the effects) after downloading the the HD videos from IGN, Gamespot, and Xboxyde. I always liked Halo's simple geometry environments and sharp clean visual style. You're not going to see final graphics in the beta either, although I wouldn't expect them to change greatly come fall, but Bungie has said they will be more polished graphically. I'm looking forward to seeing the singleplayer, this is where I believe Bungie will impress and take chances with gameplay, especially if it's true they're using different engines.

As a singleplayer only player who though Halo 2 was super great in all aspects, I imagine that I'm going to be blown away by Halo 3 across the board.

**Dispatch** · 05-12-2007, 04:27 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

Originally posted by Jistic

I am looking forward to seeing how much different this feels than Halo 2. IGN is saying it's kind of the same, but a small next step. They also said the visuals weren't that impressive like a GOW.

It sounds like there are some cool new weapons/gadgets. The 'shield' grenade is interesting. Will be fun to test this puppy out and see if it's gonna be worth it in November.

Halo 2 is an amazing miltiplayer game. There are still thousands of people playing it right now. On Bungies homepage it says right now there are 45,000 people playing Halo 2. I think it's the best multiplayer game for the Xbox.

And some of the gadgets your hoping for I really hope that they don't play much of a role in the actual game. Halo 2 is almost perfectly balanced game and adding stupid gimmicky things that might throw the game out of balance are things I'm not hoping for.

By the way, on Bungies homepage it says 1,200 people are playing Halo 2. Can't wait for Wendsday.

**Flawless** · 05-12-2007, 04:29 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

Interview with Brian Jarrard of Bungie

Lots of good stuff in this interview.

Originally posted by Klocker

Multiplayer Halo is a sport

That's a great interview too.

...

This person just owns everybody on High Ground.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8llFV3MFawI

I saw another video where somebody placed a tripmine on a warthog just before getting killed, and right after the 3 people hoped into that warthog and got blown up.

Couple gifs.

Chief floating, then sinks underwater.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/494093996_99187a3d5d_o.gif

This one is funny.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/494072540_842851f4f5_o_d.gif

**heelsman22** · 05-12-2007, 05:18 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

A few things after watching the videos:

-I like the way the sounds have changed. Everything has a more powerful sound to it. The machine guns actually sound like machine guns. Haven't seen many Covenant guns though, so we'll see how they turn out in terms of audio.

-Doesn't look like rockets can lock on(that's a good thing)

-I don't know how much I like the Spartan Laser, but I don't really know how it works either.

-The Brute Shot actually works this time, unlike the piece of crap that it was in H2. This will have pretty dramatic changes for both multi and single player.

-I'm wondering what exactly a "Killjoy" is. I'm assuming it's killing someone right before they kill someone else, but IDK really.

-The movable turret or chain gun seems scary. I'd hate to be in a shootout with one of them.

**Flawless** · 05-12-2007, 05:26 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

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**ESPNdeportes** · 05-12-2007, 08:25 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

Just watched some videos. Looked very smooth. Graphics looked fine. Seems like a nice transition from Halo 2 to 3. May have to pick up a 360.......

**Klocker** · 05-12-2007, 11:45 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

Originally posted by heelsman22

-I'm wondering what exactly a "Killjoy" is. I'm assuming it's killing someone right before they kill someone else, but IDK really.

ending someone's killing spree

**Klocker** · 05-12-2007, 11:49 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

Originally posted by Jistic

....from IGN's review of the first Halo.

Halo1 was mostly designed around the single player game. MP is leaned out in almost every game.

wait until Halo3 shows us the SP (which I'm sure will have more eye candy)

but Halo 2 and now even more so 3 is about Multiplayer as much if not more than SP. lean and mean is what makes Halo MP the king. Not to mention the graphics allegedly in the 3MP are in no way under par considering the scope and size. They are making 2 games in one box as far as I see it.

**Flawless** · 05-13-2007, 12:09 AM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

Some great videos were put up on Gametrailers.

File Sharing

http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_halo3_filmsharing.mov

http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_halo3_filmsharing.wmv

Bungie Gameplay Reel:

http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_halo3_bungie_gp.mov

http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_..._bungie_gp.wmv

Multiplayer Developer Walkthrough Pt. 1
http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_...t1_gt_h264.mov
http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_...t1_gt_h264.wmv

Multiplayer Developer Walkthrough Pt. 2
http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_...t2_gt_h264.mov
http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_...t2_gt_h264.wmv

**Miles_Yuhas** · 05-13-2007, 12:47 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

After watching that developer walkthrough in HD, I feel that the graphics actually are quite nice. Really clean. But as mentioned before the SP will have the nicer graphics.

Saved films looks like it could be big.

If you get teh beta through Crackdown, do you still need the disc to play the beta after you download it?

**Snigitty James** · 05-13-2007, 03:23 PM

Re: Halo 3 Beta Discussion

Originally posted by Cisco Kid

Halo 2 is an amazing miltiplayer game.

Haha

Halo 2 is almost perfectly balanced game

and adding stupid gimmicky things that might throw the game out of balance are things I'm not hoping for.

Go play Halo 1 and then play Halo 2 and you'll have said it all right there my friend.

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