***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

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  • ~LiverpoolRed~
    YNWA
    • Dec 2008
    • 10755

    #5131
    Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

    Originally posted by RoyceDa59
    Nah, I don't think Modric's transfer to Madrid is going to determine Sahin leaving. Mourinho has already said Sahin isn't in his plans for him this season.
    Yeah, alot of sources are saying that Mourinho said he can go.

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    • Krebstar
      is looking at stats.
      • May 2005
      • 12904

      #5132
      Originally posted by RoyceDa59
      Yesss huge fan of Carzola, this is steal of the decade man. Arsenal have been busy makes me wonder what RVP will do now.
      He'll leave.

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      • RoyceDa59
        Chillin
        • Aug 2003
        • 3830

        #5133
        Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

        Originally posted by Krebstar
        He'll leave.
        Well not a lot of teams are that interested in him and Wenger wants to get rid of him before the start of the season. I can honestly say he is handling the situation pretty well. RVP also shot Arsenal in the foot by releasing that stupid statement. With teams knowing that he wants to leave they are bidding for less and with his age, injury record, etc. I can't imagine many teams that are going to want to pay 20 million for him plus high wages; maybe Man City but they have to sell a few players before they make moves like that. Personally, I am over RVP if he decides to do a 180 and come back fine but if he wants to go so be it. I still think he handled this whole situation a bit prematurely.

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        • Krebstar
          is looking at stats.
          • May 2005
          • 12904

          #5134
          Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

          Originally posted by RoyceDa59
          Well not a lot of teams are that interested in him and Wenger wants to get rid of him before the start of the season. I can honestly say he is handling the situation pretty well. RVP also shot Arsenal in the foot by releasing that stupid statement. With teams knowing that he wants to leave they are bidding for less and with his age, injury record, etc. I can't imagine many teams that are going to want to pay 20 million for him plus high wages; maybe Man City but they have to sell a few players before they make moves like that. Personally, I am over RVP if he decides to do a 180 and come back fine but if he wants to go so be it. I still think he handled this whole situation a bit prematurely.
          Of course he shot us in the foot. There is a reason I was one of those who continuously said it was absurd how he handled it.

          He/his agent purposely knew what they were attempting to do with that statement, which was force a transfer without asking for a transfer. It was a pretty sick attempt.

          I still don't see him resigning a contract. Will he play a few games for us before leaving? Perhaps. Would I care if he did? Not really. We're moving on.

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          • ~LiverpoolRed~
            YNWA
            • Dec 2008
            • 10755

            #5135
            Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

            I think teams are sitting back and waiting to be honest. The transfer window does not slam shut until the 31st.

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            • Tomasperez9
              #ZOMBIENATION
              • May 2006
              • 961

              #5136
              Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

              I was at work and was in a meeting this morning with a high-level MLS executive and he says, "Don't get me wrong, Arsene Wenger is a genius manager, but Arsenal will never win the BPL again". Everyone in the room nodded their heads in agreement. Then I realized neither will Liverpool and I felt your guys' pain. Pass the beer nuts.
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              • jt45
                All Star
                • Apr 2003
                • 5074

                #5137
                Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                Originally posted by Tomasperez9
                I was at work and was in a meeting this morning with a high-level MLS executive and he says, "Don't get me wrong, Arsene Wenger is a genius manager, but Arsenal will never win the BPL again". Everyone in the room nodded their heads in agreement. Then I realized neither will Liverpool and I felt your guys' pain. Pass the beer nuts.
                What do you do?

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                • ImTellinTim
                  YNWA
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 33028

                  #5138
                  Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                  Originally posted by Tomasperez9
                  I was at work and was in a meeting this morning with a high-level MLS executive and he says, "Don't get me wrong, Arsene Wenger is a genius manager, but Arsenal will never win the BPL again". Everyone in the room nodded their heads in agreement. Then I realized neither will Liverpool and I felt your guys' pain. Pass the beer nuts.
                  Never say never. Any big club is only a bored billionaire away from success.

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                  • Krebstar
                    is looking at stats.
                    • May 2005
                    • 12904

                    #5139
                    Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                    Originally posted by Tomasperez9
                    I was at work and was in a meeting this morning with a high-level MLS executive and he says, "Don't get me wrong, Arsene Wenger is a genius manager, but Arsenal will never win the BPL again". Everyone in the room nodded their heads in agreement. Then I realized neither will Liverpool and I felt your guys' pain. Pass the beer nuts.
                    That executive sounds like an absolute moron.

                    Never? So, not only once Arsene leaves the club, but never? The club is so financially well run, that it won't have money issues anytime in the near future and will always be in a decent league position due to it's ability to spend enough money to do so.

                    Once the stadium debt is complete, the club will have even more money. Will they spend it on players? Most likely not, however, the club is set to be financially stable for years and years to come.

                    I think years down the road, we'll see the Man City model start to falter. It's only inevitable. It may take awhile, but I don't think in the future you'll have to be a billionaire to have a successful club. You'll need money, but you won't need a sugar daddy. The sport will ebb and flow and things will change from how they are now.

                    Does that mean Arsenal are going to win the league in the near future at all? Most likely not. I'm not saying that at all. The realistic supporters know how far away we are from accomplishing that.

                    What I am saying is that to make the proclamation that they'll never win the league again is unfounded, silly, and ignorant. They have too much history and are too well run to fall of the map. Therefore, they'll always be in striking distance. Will the club take the few steps that are needed to strike effectively? We don't know that, but the possibility will be there for the foreseeable future.

                    As for Liverpool, the same goes. The club has too much history at this point to make the same proclamation. I know, look at clubs like Leeds. That is the case of a poorly run club, which is not the same right now as Arsenal or Liverpool.

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                    • jt45
                      All Star
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 5074

                      #5140
                      Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                      What are everyone's thoughts on Kyle Bartley? He seems to be the shoo in for the 4/5 centreback spot.

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                      • Perceptor
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 4364

                        #5141
                        Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                        That's the thing that people don't see. They just see us not winning because we don't pay oodles of cash for players. I agree that Wenger has been stubborn in the past and he realized it last year when we didn't properly replace Cesc and Nasri. I think Podolski and Cazorla are going to be solid additions with or without RvP.

                        Plus, IF we get Wilshere back as we hope in October, that's another boost for the club. As Kreb said, Arsenal are a well run football club. It's definitely harder to win when clubs overpay for players, but I still believe this club will be fine in the long term

                        On the RVP issue, he can go. Problem for him is that this is the best club for him in terms of playing time and stature. At Citeh, he'd be competing with 3 other strikers for PT. Man United might work, but they also have a lot of strikers. Juve? That seems fine, but Juve are a side that are losing money and I can't see them winning the CL anytime soon.

                        On another note, I sure hope we can bring in Nuri......

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                        • Krebstar
                          is looking at stats.
                          • May 2005
                          • 12904

                          #5142
                          Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                          Damn, dudes. Nuri might be on his way.

                          José Mourinho gives Real Madrid blessing to Nuri Sahin move to Arsenal
                          José Mourinho has told Arsenal he will not stand in the way of their attempt to sign the midfielder Nuri Sahin from Real Madrid on loan


                          This sounds pretty promising. Especially that if he does come, there is great potential he could stay.

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                          • Tomasperez9
                            #ZOMBIENATION
                            • May 2006
                            • 961

                            #5143
                            Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                            Originally posted by jt45
                            What do you do?
                            I work as a designer. It was an all-staff meeting within the office.

                            And let me tell you, this executive I'm speaking of is not even close to an idiot and is one of the smartest men in sports that I have had the pleasure of meeting.

                            This whole thing came up in regards to fair-play and tv rights in foreign leagues in comparison to MLS.
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                            • Krebstar
                              is looking at stats.
                              • May 2005
                              • 12904

                              #5144
                              Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                              Originally posted by Tomasperez9
                              I work as a designer. It was an all-staff meeting within the office.

                              And let me tell you, this executive I'm speaking of is not even close to an idiot and is one of the smartest men in sports that I have had the pleasure of meeting.

                              This whole thing came up in regards to fair-play and tv rights in foreign leagues in comparison to MLS.
                              Non-idiots can make idiotic comments.

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                              • Tomasperez9
                                #ZOMBIENATION
                                • May 2006
                                • 961

                                #5145
                                Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                                Originally posted by Krebstar
                                Non-idiots can make idiotic comments.
                                Can't argue with that. In context it may have seemed a more appropriate comment.
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