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  • ImTellinTim
    YNWA
    • Sep 2006
    • 33028

    #481
    re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

    Both the other matches were draws? Beautiful.

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    • Matt10
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2006
      • 16636

      #482
      re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

      Poor defense, questionable subbing out Eddie Johnson imho, but I still feel good about us. The winning goal was a result of a bad mistake by Gonzalez - but even then, I think we will be fine.

      Also - there needs to be more credit to Honduras. They had a very strong side - and are a very strong team in general. I was very impressed with Espinoza (seems his confidence is sky rocketing) and that bicycle kick goal was incredible
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      • dubcity
        Hall Of Fame
        • May 2012
        • 17873

        #483
        re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

        Originally posted by Matt10
        Also - there needs to be more credit to Honduras. They had a very strong side - and are a very strong team in general. I was very impressed with Espinoza (seems his confidence is sky rocketing) and that bicycle kick goal was incredible
        They definitely deserve credit. The US back four were severely SEVERELY mismatched in a few of those one-on-one situations. Costly completely embarrassed Timmy Chandler with that backheel feint in the box. That's gonna be a serious issue if/when they start playing elite teams.

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        • VTPack919
          We Go Again
          • Jun 2003
          • 9708

          #484
          re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

          I still say we need Bocanegra's leadership in our backline. I like Gonzalez, especially his size, but he seems a bit lost.
          YNWA

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          • Bruins
            .
            • Mar 2004
            • 6433

            #485
            re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

            Originally posted by VTPack919
            I still say we need Bocanegra's leadership in our backline. I like Gonzalez, especially his size, but he seems a bit lost.
            No matter their promise (Gonzalez and Cameron are going to be here for a while), it was definitely an odd choice to go with such an inexperienced centerback pairing on the road for the opening match of the Hex.

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            • VTPack919
              We Go Again
              • Jun 2003
              • 9708

              #486
              re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

              Originally posted by Bruins
              No matter their promise (Gonzalez and Cameron are going to be here for a while), it was definitely an odd choice to go with such an inexperienced centerback pairing on the road for the opening match of the Hex.
              Agreed. No doubting their potential. Just would have made sense to stick Boca back there. He would atleast have been more comfortable.
              YNWA

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              • Brahvocado
                MVP
                • Oct 2012
                • 7480

                #487
                re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                Why doesn't Sean Franklin ever get called up? I know Chandler has a lot of potential but Franklin is great in that position.

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                • VTPack919
                  We Go Again
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 9708

                  #488
                  re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                  Originally posted by Brahvocado
                  Why doesn't Sean Franklin ever get called up? I know Chandler has a lot of potential but Franklin is great in that position.
                  Klinnsman likes the German connection I guess. I think Franklin is decent enough to compete with Chandler.
                  YNWA

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                  • Bruins
                    .
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 6433

                    #489
                    re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                    I'd say Franklin is #3 on the depth chart at right back, behind Cherundolo (injured at the moment) and Chandler. Would have liked to seen him make the roster over Brad Evans, a decent MLS-level center mid who Klinsmann seems to think would be a good right back.

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                    • Brahvocado
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 7480

                      #490
                      re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                      Franklin is way more consistent than Chandler though, I'd start him ahead of Chandler just for that reason alone. Chandler will end up being a better player but right now we just need consistency.

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                      • VTPack919
                        We Go Again
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9708

                        #491
                        re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                        Originally posted by Brahvocado
                        Franklin is way more consistent than Chandler though, I'd start him ahead of Chandler just for that reason alone. Chandler will end up being a better player but right now we just need consistency.
                        We need a lot of things unfortunately.
                        YNWA

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                        • Bruins
                          .
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 6433

                          #492
                          re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                          Originally posted by Brahvocado
                          Franklin is way more consistent than Chandler though, I'd start him ahead of Chandler just for that reason alone. Chandler will end up being a better player but right now we just need consistency.
                          Chandler is a starter in the Bundesliga, though, a definite step up from Franklin in MLS.

                          It would have still been a tough ask for either of them. Tough going into an away qualifier without your best and most-experienced right back (Cherundolo).

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                          • Brahvocado
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 7480

                            #493
                            re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                            Originally posted by Bruins
                            Chandler is a starter in the Bundesliga, though, a definite step up from Franklin in MLS.

                            It would have still been a tough ask for either of them. Tough going into an away qualifier without your best and most-experienced right back (Cherundolo).
                            Yeah I definitely agree Chandler is probably better. Though to be fair to Franklin, he could easily be a starter on a decent number of EPL/Bundesliga teams, and it's not like Chandler is a starter for Bayern or anything.

                            That being said, I don't care if it's a tough away fixture we should absolutely not lose to Honduras.

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                            • VTPack919
                              We Go Again
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9708

                              #494
                              re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                              Originally posted by Brahvocado
                              Yeah I definitely agree Chandler is probably better. Though to be fair to Franklin, he could easily be a starter on a decent number of EPL/Bundesliga teams, and it's not like Chandler is a starter for Bayern or anything.

                              That being said, I don't care if it's a tough away fixture we should absolutely not lose to Honduras.

                              This list may not be too accurate as I can't remember all of them, but I dont think there is a decent amount where he would start. West ham and Wigan would be the only two where he'd have a good chance. IMO. I can't even think of Wigan's left back so I could be wrong there too.

                              Arsenal - Sagna
                              Aston Villa - Warnock
                              Chelsea - Ivanovic
                              Everton - Hibbert/Neville
                              Fulham - ?? Don't even know (Probably here)
                              Liverpool - Johnson
                              Manchester City - Richardson, Zabaleta
                              Man U -Rafael
                              New U - Santon/Debuchy
                              Norwich - Martin
                              QPR - Bosingwa (Friction with Redknapp I know)
                              Reading - Kelly
                              Southampton - Richardson (maybe here)
                              Stoke - Shotton
                              Sunderland - Bardsley
                              Swansea - Rangel/Richards
                              Tottenham - Walker
                              West Brom - Jones (maybe here)
                              West Ham - Demel (def here)
                              Wigan -I dont even know
                              YNWA

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                              • Bruins
                                .
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 6433

                                #495
                                re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                                Originally posted by VTPack919
                                This list may not be too accurate as I can't remember all of them, but I dont think there is a decent amount where he would start. West ham and Wigan would be the only two where he'd have a good chance. IMO. I can't even think of Wigan's left back so I could be wrong there too.
                                Pretty good job. Fixed a few:

                                Arsenal - Sagna
                                Aston Villa - Lowton
                                Chelsea - Azpilicueta
                                Everton - Coleman
                                Fulham - Riether
                                Liverpool - Johnson
                                Manchester City - Zabaleta
                                Manchester United - Rafael
                                Newcastle - Simpson
                                Norwich - Martin
                                QPR - Bosingwa
                                Reading - Gunter
                                Southampton - Clyne
                                Stoke - Cameron
                                Sunderland - Gardner
                                Swansea - Rangel
                                Tottenham - Walker
                                West Brom - Jones
                                West Ham - Demel
                                Wigan - Boyce (but they play a 3-4-3 so he's the RM)

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