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  • Steve_OS
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    • Jul 2002
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    PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)



    The PGA_Tour_2K reddit community put together some questions for HB Studios and received some answers from...

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  • scagwi
    MVP
    • Aug 2015
    • 2718

    #2
    Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)

    Nothing yet on gameplay or swing implementation or really anything directly addressing changes from TGC2019.

    It's nice to see this:

    "Online play matchmaking will ensure that all players are using the same settings.”

    But -- will something like the loft box be a setting you can tweak?

    And along those lines, has the swing granularity been adjusted a bit?

    What about overswing?
    (or some other method to make 100% exactly more of a moving target to achieve)
    Last edited by scagwi; 05-28-2020, 06:29 PM.

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    • scagwi
      MVP
      • Aug 2015
      • 2718

      #3
      Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)



      To tag onto that comment a bit..

      If you can't play as the Pro's and can only play "with them" in certain scenarios, one does wonder if that was worth the effort and cost to bring them in.

      It seems like for far less money and time invested they could've just licensed their names to put onto leaderboards and it would have covered most of the bases of usefulness.

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      • Cam Fan
        Pro
        • Jun 2014
        • 548

        #4
        Not forking over cash for this. DLC.

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        • slthree
          MVP
          • Sep 2003
          • 2529

          #5
          I thought for sure this would be a day one purchase but the more I hear from them, the less attractive this game seems. I’m surprised by this because I always buy new games.

          Heres hoping more compelling information comes out soon

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          • OnlookerDelay
            MVP
            • Oct 2003
            • 3445

            #6
            Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)

            Originally posted by scagwi
            It's nice to see this:

            "Online play matchmaking will ensure that all players are using the same settings.”
            Yes, this is a very welcome addition, but should have been there from the outset with public matchmaking.

            But -- will something like the loft box be a setting you can tweak?
            I can't say for sure, but to pick up on Shaun's comment in his TSN 1290 podcast interview, 'we're making changes to present more of a challenge to an experienced player' and they're feature comment about "Distance Control" upping the challenge, I'd say that sounds like loft box removal or at least severely limiting its variability. If that's there, I think it would foolish not to make it lockable for a competition or a match.

            And along those lines, has the swing granularity been adjusted a bit?

            What about overswing?
            (or some other method to make 100% exactly more of a moving target to achieve)
            If something like that is coming I'd say they're going to reveal it in a feature article or video. Maybe something like that would fall under the heading of 'changes under the hood'.
            Duke Football? Hell yes it's Duke Football! --- Coach Cutcliffe

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            • OnlookerDelay
              MVP
              • Oct 2003
              • 3445

              #7
              Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)

              I was really glad to hear they're getting rid of the club sets as a method of established difficulty levels. They didn't go into detail about was going to done in lieu of it, but it will supposedly allow the gamer a chance to tailor the game to their style of play, or something to that effect. My hope is that they're sticking by the overall policy of staying away from "pay to win" in doing this. One of the answers today said that apparel and bling wouldn't have any effect on performance, but they never came out and directly said equipment wouldn't have any effect on it.

              Finally, we can concede a hole, at long last, but why not a putt? They were asked a question about the ability to do both, and they only spoke to conceding a hole in the answer. Conceding a putt is a prime component of match play; why would you do one but not the other!? It's stuff like that which just makes me scratch my head in bewilderment!!
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              • scagwi
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 2718

                #8
                Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)

                Originally posted by OnlookerDelay
                One of the answers today said that apparel and bling wouldn't have any effect on performance, but they never came out and directly said equipment wouldn't have any effect on it.
                Almost sort of confirmed that it would I think, yeah?

                "All apparel items are cosmetic-only. The clubs you choose to assign to your Golf Bag will have an effect on course and we will go into more details for how this will work in the coming weeks."

                I know not everybody agrees on this, but I personally am in the camp of "liking" equipment to impact abilities and distances and have tradeoffs with control and spin.

                To me it gives a user things to work towards earning (or buying I guess too). Ultimately it adds to variety and replayability in my opinion.
                Last edited by scagwi; 05-28-2020, 10:10 PM.

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                • OnlookerDelay
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 3445

                  #9
                  Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)

                  Originally posted by scagwi
                  Almost sort of confirmed that it would I think, yeah?

                  "All apparel items are cosmetic-only. The clubs you choose to assign to your Golf Bag will have an effect on course and we will go into more details for how this will work in the coming weeks."
                  Given that Shaun West stressed that this would not be a "pay to win" game, I took that to mean that you could select clubs with characteristics that may suit your game better. For example, if you're a good iron striker, you'd probably opt for forged irons versus cavity backed irons. Another thing I thought of was maybe they're going to offer variable shaft stiffnesses.

                  If it's like what I've imagined above, I'll be playing with cavity back irons and regular shafts, if their models follow what I suspect they will, as I suspect that will give me the best balance of power and control. I may have to earn some VC to get the equipment that bests suits my game and if that's the case, I'm fine with it, as long as I can earn that privilege through in game earnings.

                  The more I parse that response, the more I realize it opened the door to more questions than I ever thought I'd be asking. I'll have to wait to get a more definitive answer "in the coming weeks", to which Shaun ultimately alludes.
                  I know not everybody agrees on this, but I personally am in the camp of "liking" equipment to impact abilities and distances and have tradeoffs with control and spin.
                  To me it gives a user things to work towards earning (or buying I guess too). Ultimately it adds to variety and replayability in my opinion.
                  I think I spoke to this point in my previous comment, but I wasn't thinking about how it would add to the variety and replayability, but I agree with you... it would in my estimation.
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                  • scagwi
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 2718

                    #10
                    Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)

                    Yeah I just sort of feel like we should not fear progressions and ways to level up.

                    Giving people things to earn (or purchase) that can make a difference is compelling to many users and gives them something to keep working at with goals in mind.

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                    • scagwi
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 2718

                      #11
                      Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)

                      I have to say..

                      As the HB forum has turned into an over-moderated, curated group of mostly homers, it's refreshing to see the more blunt analysis and takes about this in the reddit area.

                      HB & 2K are going to have their moderation hands full if they really release what it looks like they're going to, as their will be a fair amount of justified cynical reaction and takes of this being mostly a "full priced TGC 2019 content pack".

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                      • ncp10
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 193

                        #12
                        Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)

                        Originally posted by OnlookerDelay
                        I'd say that sounds like loft box removal or at least severely limiting its variability.
                        I don't see why loft box is any issue at all. It's essentially analog, it's not like you can predict its effect on shots any more than feeling a lie with your body and feet in RLG. Nothing particularly mathematical about it. We frequently miss-guess the effect of it, and depending on visuals only in this flat sim seems ridiculously random to me.

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                        • scagwi
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 2718

                          #13
                          Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)

                          Whatever ones feelings about the loft box, let's just hope they allow people to disable it and enforce that setting across all modes of play.

                          Choice is good here.

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                          • OnlookerDelay
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3445

                            #14
                            Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)

                            Originally posted by ncp10
                            I don't see why loft box is any issue at all. It's essentially analog, it's not like you can predict its effect on shots any more than feeling a lie with your body and feet in RLG. Nothing particularly mathematical about it. We frequently miss-guess the effect of it, and depending on visuals only in this flat sim seems ridiculously random to me.
                            I think it's excessive in the range of carry distances it allows you to achieve. It's like +/- 8%. If it was +/- 2 or 3%, I'd have an easier time buying it. I know I can't do +/- 8% in real life and pull it off... well, not and be able to keep the ball in bounds.

                            I just know this, the fact that I'm able to regulate partial swings with a much higher degree of reliability in Perfect Golf, where lofting is limited to about 2%, if that, feels more natural to me in getting those in between distances.... it just feels more intuitive.

                            I think we're going to have the option for both, if I'm reading the tea leaves correctly about what they're touting as an experienced player challenge in "Distance Control".
                            Duke Football? Hell yes it's Duke Football! --- Coach Cutcliffe

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                            • scagwi
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 2718

                              #15
                              Re: PGA TOUR 2K21 Q&A (Reddit)

                              Originally posted by OnlookerDelay
                              I just know this, the fact that I'm able to regulate partial swings with a much higher degree of reliability in Perfect Golf, where lofting is limited to about 2%, if that, feels more natural to me in getting those in between distances.... it just feels more intuitive.
                              This is so true

                              Regardless of how one may feel about the overall PG package (I fully admit it's missing a lot), it's hard to deny what a great controller swing implementation they cooked up.

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