OhMrHanky's 'Nother Slider Set - All-Pro, Penalties, and Auto-Subs

[OhMrHanky]

Quote: Originally Posted by tariq071

These are very nice sliders, i have tried in several games with Pats and Jags and stats are reasonable in most of the categories. However , running game is to strong, outside runs are basically unstoppable and yields big gains every time, i can stop them from my side most of the time, so not that much of the problem, but CPU can't stop anything. Least yards i am getting from it 10. I had Dennard Robinson running 140+ yards last night, just to test it, and my teams are averaging 250 YPG running. I do limit # of outside runs to only if they are recommended by Ask Madden, but offtackle runs are standard feature in NFL, so i can't just stop using them. Any suggestions how to remedy that?I know i can raise Threshold , but to stop this T has to be 75+ which will probably brake something else then.

Yeah. Running may be a little off. I just finished an entire season using these sliders (I may have been tweaking some through the season, but these are close to where I'm at now), and I have a rookie RB with 98 ACC and 96 SPD rush for 2300 yds and 30 TD on 403 carries. So, he got the rushing record, TD record, and almost got the carries record in his rookie season. He did 'only' avg 5.7 as opposed to 7+. This is kind of tough for me to pinpoint the best spot to tweak. For my first 2 seasons, I had Steven Jackson, and I couldn't run ANYWHERE with his 82 SPD. I finally tweaked min SPD thresh to 36 and I really like it there, and Jackson was able to get outside more often. With my much faster back, he is able to get to the outside more often, but I actually don't get that many 20yd+ runs. He just runs solid and actually, the outside gets stopped enough for me at the los. U can try 2 things I would think. 1. U could try to raise thresh. I don't think I'd go higher than 40. I personally don't think the speed separation is realistic until 36, and for me 36 is just right and allows for WR separation from time to time on deep routes which I like and want. But, if u r killing the edge, upping thresh will help stop that. 2. I have not played around the run Blk slider much and have had it where it's at for quite some time. U could try lowering that as low as 30-32. I notice a lot of sliders seem to change around 32, 48, and 64. I read an interesting slider guy talking about the program running on a 32 bit system or 64 bit system and he figured his sliders based on that. I'm not 100% on his findings, but I have to say I do see changes at multiples of 16. I mention this as a reason I would look at run Blk down to 30-32 as this is where u might actually see some change. U may not see a difference from 40-48, but maybe at 33, 32, 31. Somewhere around there. 3. I don't recommend this, but u could raise tackling to 48. I personally don't break enough tackles and don't want to raise tackling any higher as u may find u never get the edge anymore as tackling does seem to help with blockshed. So, u could raise that a few points. I may look to tweak the run blocking in my next season and see if I can get a more realistic feel out of it. Although, as I said, even with the records my RB set, I actually didn't feel like the run game was overpowered for me, and that his 5.7 avg was because of his speed and ability to get outside. But, if you're running too easy, try those things I mentioned and let me know if it works. I think I need to update the OP with exactly what I'm playing with now, but it should be pretty close.


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[ich2233]

Quote: Originally Posted by OhMrHanky

Yeah. Running may be a little off. I just finished an entire season using these sliders (I may have been tweaking some through the season, but these are close to where I'm at now), and I have a rookie RB with 98 ACC and 96 SPD rush for 2300 yds and 30 TD on 403 carries. So, he got the rushing record, TD record, and almost got the carries record in his rookie season. He did 'only' avg 5.7 as opposed to 7+. This is kind of tough for me to pinpoint the best spot to tweak. For my first 2 seasons, I had Steven Jackson, and I couldn't run ANYWHERE with his 82 SPD. I finally tweaked min SPD thresh to 36 and I really like it there, and Jackson was able to get outside more often. With my much faster back, he is able to get to the outside more often, but I actually don't get that many 20yd+ runs. He just runs solid and actually, the outside gets stopped enough for me at the los. U can try 2 things I would think. 1. U could try to raise thresh. I don't think I'd go higher than 40. I personally don't think the speed separation is realistic until 36, and for me 36 is just right and allows for WR separation from time to time on deep routes which I like and want. But, if u r killing the edge, upping thresh will help stop that. 2. I have not played around the run Blk slider much and have had it where it's at for quite some time. U could try lowering that as low as 30-32. I notice a lot of sliders seem to change around 32, 48, and 64. I read an interesting slider guy talking about the program running on a 32 bit system or 64 bit system and he figured his sliders based on that. I'm not 100% on his findings, but I have to say I do see changes at multiples of 16. I mention this as a reason I would look at run Blk down to 30-32 as this is where u might actually see some change. U may not see a difference from 40-48, but maybe at 33, 32, 31. Somewhere around there. 3. I don't recommend this, but u could raise tackling to 48. I personally don't break enough tackles and don't want to raise tackling any higher as u may find u never get the edge anymore as tackling does seem to help with blockshed. So, u could raise that a few points. I may look to tweak the run blocking in my next season and see if I can get a more realistic feel out of it. Although, as I said, even with the records my RB set, I actually didn't feel like the run game was overpowered for me, and that his 5.7 avg was because of his speed and ability to get outside. But, if you're running too easy, try those things I mentioned and let me know if it works. I think I need to update the OP with exactly what I'm playing with now, but it should be pretty close. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Penalty Sliders set at the numbers 99/98/92/86/80/73/67/60/59/54/53/49/46/43/40/30/27/23/20/15/10/5 all get bumped down a point in Offline CFM during Gameplay.

I found this a while back. If you go into penalty settings during game play you'll see it. I don't know if it affects much but it definitely sheds light on the fact that 54 Roughing the Passer produces 0 CPU caused RTP penalties but at 55 you got LeBron James flops all over the place. 54 is really 53 so there's no middle ground for that. 54 would be perfect I bet. RTPs once in a while but not ridiculous amount like at 55. Could it be the same for every slider? Idk. I got paranoid about it and stopped setting anything at those numbers. Maybe they are some kind of threshold. Maybe below the Glitched Digit causes one situation but above the Digit it's something vastly different. Might have something to do with the whole 75 and under rule, but I don't really agree with that theory. Actually, I don't really understand it so Idk.

[OhMrHanky]

So, it's my 3rd Season in. I've been tweaking sliders along the way, but most of my 3rd season was with this set (or close to it). My first 2 seasons, I actually didn't make the playoffs with my Falcons. I finally put Asante Samuel on the bench and picked Brent Grimes up as a FA. I finally realized this was my team's problem when Calvin Johnson racked up 250+ yds ALL on Samuel it seemed. The whole time I was trying to tweak my pass D sliders because the coverage just didn't seem to be there. lol, it was actually Samuel's diminishing talent that was screwing me over. Getting Grimes made a world of difference. I went 14-2 and I just won the SuperBowl against the Raiders led by Cam Newton and wanted to share the stats. Absolutely a tough battle all the way through. Their D was playing very solid and I felt I couldn't pass downfield at all. And, Julio Jones broke his ribs in the last game of the reg season, so I was without him the ENTIRE playoffs. The ONLY TD of the game was by my FB on a play action from the 5 yd line. He got hit at the goaline and fell in the end zone. This game was as close as it gets, and was ultimately worthwhile and competitive. Felt like I earned it, and while this game was lower scoring than most I play with my sliders, I do feel these stats show something. I threw 2 ints, so did Cam. The other TO was a wicked strip tackle where Weatherspoon punched the ball out. Fabulous animation on that. Sometimes, Madden actually does look real. lol. Well, here's the stats:

Atlanta Falcons at Oakland Raiders
Feb 6, 2016	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Atlanta Falcons (14-2)	3	3	0	10	16
Oakland Raiders (12-4)	0	7	6	0	13

Team Stats Comparison
	ATL	OAK
Total Offense	356	342
Rushing Yards	153	226
Passing Yards	203	116
First Downs	19	17
Punt Return Yards	66	16
Kick Return Yards	87	122
Total Yards	509	480
Turnovers	2	3
3rd Down Converstion	4	4
4th Down Conversion	0	0
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/2	0/0
Penalties	12 yds	15 yds
Posession Time	35:18	24:42

Atlanta Falcons PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Matt Ryan 27/41 217 1 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD F. Mackey 23 133 5.8 0 B. Pinnacle 5 18 3.6 0 P. DiMarco 1 2 2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD T. Seale 7 53 7.6 0 R. White 5 54 10.8 0 J. Rodgers 5 43 8.6 0 H. Douglas 3 17 5.7 0 B. Hoskins 3 32 10.7 0 F. Mackey 2 4 2.0 0 P. DiMarco 1 5 5.0 1 A. Effinger 1 9 9.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK G. Reynolds 1 0 M. Cannon 1 1 A. Collins 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Sean Weatherspoon 8 0 FF/1 0 M. Goodman 4 2 0 0 S. Maponga 3 2 0 0 S. Nicholas 3 1 0 0 W. Justice MLB 3 1 0 0 Brent Grimes 5 0 1 0 Robert Alford 3 0 1 0 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Chris Jones 6 263 43.8 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J. Rodgers 3 87 29.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD H. Douglas 4 57 14.3 0 S. Reed 2 9 4.5 0

Oakland Raiders PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Cam Newton 19/36 158 0 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Dion Lewis 17 180 10.6 1 Cam Newton 5 44 8.8 0 B. Tate 1 2 2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD D. Carr 8 62 7.8 0 J. Cribbs 4 45 11.3 0 D. Hester 4 27 6.8 0 D. Lewis 2 17 8.5 0 B. Myers 1 7 7.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK A. Castonzo 1 2 C. Wallace 1 0 B. Giacomini 0 2 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD T. Branch 9 0 1 0 D. Berardi 5 1 0 0 E. Kosta 4 1 0 0 D.J. Hayden 5 0 1 0 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. Bosher 6 268 44.7 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J. Cribbs 2 49 24.5 0 D. Hester 3 73 24.3 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Hester 1 16 16.0 0

[OhMrHanky]

And, I'm finally messing with the OP create tables function which is pretty cool, so here are my end of year stats. Yes, my LE had 34 sacks. I've tried my hardest to tone that down, but it is what it is. And, yes, 4 QBs were used. Ryan went down in PreSeason, Orton went down in week 2, I think. My 3rd String was horrible, so I picked up Nick Foles in FA, and he actually won a few games for me until Ryan healed.

Atlanta Falcons Stats -
Passing	C/ATT	YDS	AVG	YDS/G	LONG	TD	INT	RAT
Matt Ryan	230/316	3,057	9.7	305.7	82	23	8	116.7
Kyle Orton	44/58	613	10.6	87.6	91	5	1	130.8
Nick Foles	111/168	1317	7.8	263.4	55	4	9	75.4
Sean Renfree	10/23	68	3.0	34.0	22	0	1	32.6
Rushing	ATT	YDS	AVG	LONG	20+	TD	YDS/G	FUM
F. Mackey	402	2239	5.6	61	24	30	139.9	1
B. Pinnacle	118	601	5.1	58	3	5	40.1	1
Receiving	REC	YDS	AVG	TD	LONG	20+	YDS/G	YAC
Julio Jones	114	1877	16.5	16	91		117.3	623
Roddy White	77	1020	13.2	2	53		63.8	436
J. Rodgers	60	649	10.8	7	47		40.6	801
H. Douglas	45	549	12.2	2	55		34.3	222
T. Seale (TE)	44	516	11.7	0	55		46.9	146
7 others
Blocking					PCAKE		SACK
J. Blalock LG					16		5
S. Baker LT					9		2
M. Cannon RG					8		5
E. Wood C					7		7
G. Reynolds RG					4		0
A. Collins RT					3		4
	Tackles			Sacks		Interceptions
Defense	SOLO	AST	TOT	SACK	TLOSS	PD	INT	TD
W. Justice MLB	89			2	13	4	1/1FF	0
W. Moore SS	84			0	7	7	2/1FF	1
M. Goodman LE	67			34	39		1FF	0
T. DeCoud FS	64			0	2	1	1FF	0
S. Weatherspoon ROLB	64			4	14	1	1	0
D. Trufant CB	57			2	6	9	4/1FF	0
R. Alford CB	49			0	0	1	8/1FF	1
B. Grimes CB	49			0	4	8	3	0
A. Samuel	38			0	1	1	1/1FF	0
S. Maponga RE	36			18	14
J. Babineaux DT	31			10	16
	Kickoffs					Punts
Returning	ATT	YDS	AVG	LONG	TD	RET	AVG	TD
J. Rodgers	55	1287	23.4	39	0
H. Douglas						84	9.5	0
	Field Goals				Extra Points
Kicking	FGM	FGA	PCT	LONG	XPM	XPA	PCT	PTS
R. Bullock	32	35	91	50	44	44	100
Punting	PUNTS	YDS	LONG	AVG	NET	BP	IN20	TB
Chris Jones	52	2223	57	42.8	34.8	0	13	6

[OhMrHanky]

Updated the OP with minor changes 2/28/14.

[ich2233]

Yes, my LE had 34 sacks. I've tried my hardest to tone that down, but it is what it is.


Bro, lower Intentional Grounding. It's working for everyone else.

[OhMrHanky]

Quote: Originally Posted by ich2233

Yes, my LE had 34 sacks. I've tried my hardest to tone that down, but it is what it is. Bro, lower Intentional Grounding. It's working for everyone else.

Lol, I'm going to try that today, I think. I'm starting my new season today. I'm going to try to tweak the run game, and I'll lower IG, and see if that helps with the sacks. Where do u suggest? 30-35? I remember u saying not to go too low in another thread. I think I'll try 31 to start as I've said before, things feel like they 'change' at 31/32, 63/64, 47/48, so I'll give that a shot.


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[OhMrHanky]

Quote: Originally Posted by OhMrHanky

Lol, I'm going to try that today, I think. I'm starting my new season today. I'm going to try to tweak the run game, and I'll lower IG, and see if that helps with the sacks. Where do u suggest? 30-35? I remember u saying not to go too low in another thread. I think I'll try 31 to start as I've said before, things feel like they 'change' at 31/32, 63/64, 47/48, so I'll give that a shot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Aaaaaaand, the first play of the game is a coverage sack. Lol. That's alright, the Super Bowl I last played started with 2 coverage sacks on cam newton with my old settings. And, I know 1 play isn't enough to test. I'm going to keep IG low for a few games and see if it feels different. I just love when trying to tweak something like 'I want less sacks. Let's try this.' And, the first play u see what u don't want to see. Lol.


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