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Old 02-25-2014, 05:26 PM   #41
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These are very nice sliders, i have tried in several games with Pats and Jags and stats are reasonable in most of the categories.

However , running game is to strong, outside runs are basically unstoppable and yields big gains every time, i can stop them from my side most of the time, so not that much of the problem, but CPU can't stop anything.

Least yards i am getting from it 10. I had Dennard Robinson running 140+ yards last night, just to test it, and my teams are averaging 250 YPG running.

I do limit # of outside runs to only if they are recommended by Ask Madden, but offtackle runs are standard feature in NFL, so i can't just stop using them.

Any suggestions how to remedy that?I know i can raise Threshold , but to stop this T has to be 75+ which will probably brake something else then.

Yeah. Running may be a little off. I just finished an entire season using these sliders (I may have been tweaking some through the season, but these are close to where I'm at now), and I have a rookie RB with 98 ACC and 96 SPD rush for 2300 yds and 30 TD on 403 carries. So, he got the rushing record, TD record, and almost got the carries record in his rookie season. He did 'only' avg 5.7 as opposed to 7+. This is kind of tough for me to pinpoint the best spot to tweak. For my first 2 seasons, I had Steven Jackson, and I couldn't run ANYWHERE with his 82 SPD. I finally tweaked min SPD thresh to 36 and I really like it there, and Jackson was able to get outside more often. With my much faster back, he is able to get to the outside more often, but I actually don't get that many 20yd+ runs. He just runs solid and actually, the outside gets stopped enough for me at the los. U can try 2 things I would think. 1. U could try to raise thresh. I don't think I'd go higher than 40. I personally don't think the speed separation is realistic until 36, and for me 36 is just right and allows for WR separation from time to time on deep routes which I like and want. But, if u r killing the edge, upping thresh will help stop that. 2. I have not played around the run Blk slider much and have had it where it's at for quite some time. U could try lowering that as low as 30-32. I notice a lot of sliders seem to change around 32, 48, and 64. I read an interesting slider guy talking about the program running on a 32 bit system or 64 bit system and he figured his sliders based on that. I'm not 100% on his findings, but I have to say I do see changes at multiples of 16. I mention this as a reason I would look at run Blk down to 30-32 as this is where u might actually see some change. U may not see a difference from 40-48, but maybe at 33, 32, 31. Somewhere around there. 3. I don't recommend this, but u could raise tackling to 48. I personally don't break enough tackles and don't want to raise tackling any higher as u may find u never get the edge anymore as tackling does seem to help with blockshed. So, u could raise that a few points. I may look to tweak the run blocking in my next season and see if I can get a more realistic feel out of it. Although, as I said, even with the records my RB set, I actually didn't feel like the run game was overpowered for me, and that his 5.7 avg was because of his speed and ability to get outside. But, if you're running too easy, try those things I mentioned and let me know if it works. I think I need to update the OP with exactly what I'm playing with now, but it should be pretty close.


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Yeah. Running may be a little off. I just finished an entire season using these sliders (I may have been tweaking some through the season, but these are close to where I'm at now), and I have a rookie RB with 98 ACC and 96 SPD rush for 2300 yds and 30 TD on 403 carries. So, he got the rushing record, TD record, and almost got the carries record in his rookie season. He did 'only' avg 5.7 as opposed to 7+. This is kind of tough for me to pinpoint the best spot to tweak. For my first 2 seasons, I had Steven Jackson, and I couldn't run ANYWHERE with his 82 SPD. I finally tweaked min SPD thresh to 36 and I really like it there, and Jackson was able to get outside more often. With my much faster back, he is able to get to the outside more often, but I actually don't get that many 20yd+ runs. He just runs solid and actually, the outside gets stopped enough for me at the los. U can try 2 things I would think. 1. U could try to raise thresh. I don't think I'd go higher than 40. I personally don't think the speed separation is realistic until 36, and for me 36 is just right and allows for WR separation from time to time on deep routes which I like and want. But, if u r killing the edge, upping thresh will help stop that. 2. I have not played around the run Blk slider much and have had it where it's at for quite some time. U could try lowering that as low as 30-32. I notice a lot of sliders seem to change around 32, 48, and 64. I read an interesting slider guy talking about the program running on a 32 bit system or 64 bit system and he figured his sliders based on that. I'm not 100% on his findings, but I have to say I do see changes at multiples of 16. I mention this as a reason I would look at run Blk down to 30-32 as this is where u might actually see some change. U may not see a difference from 40-48, but maybe at 33, 32, 31. Somewhere around there. 3. I don't recommend this, but u could raise tackling to 48. I personally don't break enough tackles and don't want to raise tackling any higher as u may find u never get the edge anymore as tackling does seem to help with blockshed. So, u could raise that a few points. I may look to tweak the run blocking in my next season and see if I can get a more realistic feel out of it. Although, as I said, even with the records my RB set, I actually didn't feel like the run game was overpowered for me, and that his 5.7 avg was because of his speed and ability to get outside. But, if you're running too easy, try those things I mentioned and let me know if it works. I think I need to update the OP with exactly what I'm playing with now, but it should be pretty close.


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Penalty Sliders set at the numbers 99/98/92/86/80/73/67/60/59/54/53/49/46/43/40/30/27/23/20/15/10/5 all get bumped down a point in Offline CFM during Gameplay.

I found this a while back. If you go into penalty settings during game play you'll see it. I don't know if it affects much but it definitely sheds light on the fact that 54 Roughing the Passer produces 0 CPU caused RTP penalties but at 55 you got LeBron James flops all over the place. 54 is really 53 so there's no middle ground for that. 54 would be perfect I bet. RTPs once in a while but not ridiculous amount like at 55. Could it be the same for every slider? Idk. I got paranoid about it and stopped setting anything at those numbers. Maybe they are some kind of threshold. Maybe below the Glitched Digit causes one situation but above the Digit it's something vastly different. Might have something to do with the whole 75 and under rule, but I don't really agree with that theory. Actually, I don't really understand it so Idk.
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So, it's my 3rd Season in. I've been tweaking sliders along the way, but most of my 3rd season was with this set (or close to it). My first 2 seasons, I actually didn't make the playoffs with my Falcons. I finally put Asante Samuel on the bench and picked Brent Grimes up as a FA. I finally realized this was my team's problem when Calvin Johnson racked up 250+ yds ALL on Samuel it seemed. The whole time I was trying to tweak my pass D sliders because the coverage just didn't seem to be there. lol, it was actually Samuel's diminishing talent that was screwing me over. Getting Grimes made a world of difference. I went 14-2 and I just won the SuperBowl against the Raiders led by Cam Newton and wanted to share the stats. Absolutely a tough battle all the way through. Their D was playing very solid and I felt I couldn't pass downfield at all. And, Julio Jones broke his ribs in the last game of the reg season, so I was without him the ENTIRE playoffs. The ONLY TD of the game was by my FB on a play action from the 5 yd line. He got hit at the goaline and fell in the end zone. This game was as close as it gets, and was ultimately worthwhile and competitive. Felt like I earned it, and while this game was lower scoring than most I play with my sliders, I do feel these stats show something. I threw 2 ints, so did Cam. The other TO was a wicked strip tackle where Weatherspoon punched the ball out. Fabulous animation on that. Sometimes, Madden actually does look real. lol. Well, here's the stats:
Atlanta Falcons at Oakland Raiders
Feb 6, 20161ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
Atlanta Falcons (14-2)3301016
Oakland Raiders (12-4)076013
Team Stats Comparison
ATLOAK
Total Offense356342
Rushing Yards153226
Passing Yards203116
First Downs1917
Punt Return Yards6616
Kick Return Yards87122
Total Yards509480
Turnovers23
3rd Down Converstion44
4th Down Conversion00
2-Point Conversion00
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals1/20/0
Penalties12 yds15 yds
Posession Time35:1824:42
Atlanta Falcons
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Matt Ryan27/4121712
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
F. Mackey231335.80
B. Pinnacle5183.60
P. DiMarco122.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
T. Seale7537.60
R. White55410.80
J. Rodgers5438.60
H. Douglas3175.70
B. Hoskins33210.70
F. Mackey242.00
P. DiMarco155.01
A. Effinger199.00
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
G. Reynolds10
M. Cannon11
A. Collins01
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
Sean Weatherspoon80FF/10
M. Goodman4200
S. Maponga3200
S. Nicholas3100
W. Justice MLB3100
Brent Grimes5010
Robert Alford3010
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
Chris Jones626343.81
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
J. Rodgers38729.00
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
H. Douglas45714.30
S. Reed294.50
Oakland Raiders
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Cam Newton19/3615802
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
Dion Lewis1718010.61
Cam Newton5448.80
B. Tate122.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
D. Carr8627.80
J. Cribbs44511.30
D. Hester4276.80
D. Lewis2178.50
B. Myers177.00
BLOCKINGPANCAKESACK
A. Castonzo12
C. Wallace10
B. Giacomini02
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
T. Branch9010
D. Berardi5100
E. Kosta4100
D.J. Hayden5010
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
M. Bosher626844.71
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
J. Cribbs24924.50
D. Hester37324.30
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
D. Hester11616.00
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And, I'm finally messing with the OP create tables function which is pretty cool, so here are my end of year stats. Yes, my LE had 34 sacks. I've tried my hardest to tone that down, but it is what it is. And, yes, 4 QBs were used. Ryan went down in PreSeason, Orton went down in week 2, I think. My 3rd String was horrible, so I picked up Nick Foles in FA, and he actually won a few games for me until Ryan healed.


Atlanta Falcons Stats -
PassingC/ATTYDSAVGYDS/GLONGTDINTRAT
Matt Ryan230/3163,0579.7305.782238116.7
Kyle Orton44/5861310.687.69151130.8
Nick Foles111/16813177.8263.4554975.4
Sean Renfree10/23683.034.0220132.6
RushingATTYDSAVGLONG20+TDYDS/GFUM
F. Mackey40222395.6612430139.91
B. Pinnacle1186015.1583540.11
ReceivingRECYDSAVGTDLONG20+YDS/GYAC
Julio Jones114187716.51691117.3623
Roddy White77102013.225363.8436
J. Rodgers6064910.874740.6801
H. Douglas4554912.225534.3222
T. Seale (TE)4451611.705546.9146
7 others
BlockingPCAKESACK
J. Blalock LG165
S. Baker LT92
M. Cannon RG85
E. Wood C77
G. Reynolds RG 40
A. Collins RT34
TacklesSacksInterceptions
DefenseSOLOASTTOTSACKTLOSSPDINTTD
W. Justice MLB8921341/1FF0
W. Moore SS840772/1FF1
M. Goodman LE6734391FF0
T. DeCoud FS640211FF0
S. Weatherspoon ROLB64414110
D. Trufant CB572694/1FF0
R. Alford CB490018/1FF1
B. Grimes CB4904830
A. Samuel380111/1FF0
S. Maponga RE361814
J. Babineaux DT311016
KickoffsPunts
ReturningATTYDSAVGLONGTDRETAVGTD
J. Rodgers55128723.4390
H. Douglas849.50
Field GoalsExtra Points
KickingFGMFGAPCTLONGXPMXPAPCTPTS
R. Bullock323591504444100
PuntingPUNTSYDSLONGAVGNETBPIN20TB
Chris Jones5222235742.834.80136
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Updated the OP with minor changes 2/28/14.
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Yes, my LE had 34 sacks. I've tried my hardest to tone that down, but it is what it is.


Bro, lower Intentional Grounding. It's working for everyone else.
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Yes, my LE had 34 sacks. I've tried my hardest to tone that down, but it is what it is.


Bro, lower Intentional Grounding. It's working for everyone else.

Lol, I'm going to try that today, I think. I'm starting my new season today. I'm going to try to tweak the run game, and I'll lower IG, and see if that helps with the sacks. Where do u suggest? 30-35? I remember u saying not to go too low in another thread. I think I'll try 31 to start as I've said before, things feel like they 'change' at 31/32, 63/64, 47/48, so I'll give that a shot.


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Lol, I'm going to try that today, I think. I'm starting my new season today. I'm going to try to tweak the run game, and I'll lower IG, and see if that helps with the sacks. Where do u suggest? 30-35? I remember u saying not to go too low in another thread. I think I'll try 31 to start as I've said before, things feel like they 'change' at 31/32, 63/64, 47/48, so I'll give that a shot.


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Aaaaaaand, the first play of the game is a coverage sack. Lol. That's alright, the Super Bowl I last played started with 2 coverage sacks on cam newton with my old settings. And, I know 1 play isn't enough to test. I'm going to keep IG low for a few games and see if it feels different. I just love when trying to tweak something like 'I want less sacks. Let's try this.' And, the first play u see what u don't want to see. Lol.


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