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Old 08-27-2014, 04:35 PM   #49
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Re: Armor & Swords All-Pro Slow Simulation Style Sliders

First of all, I just want to say that I really appreciate the time and effort ALL sliders makers put in to make Madden play how it should. Now with that being said, this slider set is a great start. Here are my thoughts/results after playing my first game with them. I used the exact set on the OP but I used 13 min. quarters with 15 sec. accel clock.. that got me 123 plays (Not counting Special Team Plays). I also used Charter04's Auto-sub set. I also player locked on the QB for every pass play, and chose one defensive player to lock on to before each play of defense.

Notes from the game:

- LeVeon Bell fumbled both times I attempted to jump over the line at the end zone with him.

- First interception I threw was an awful decision by me. The second was a Hail Mary at the end of the game.

- Johnny Manziel was sacked 5 times (3 of these sacks came on him scrambling and trying to run with it), I was sacked 0 times. Though I was hurried quite a few times.

- Johnny Football played like he was 2011 Aaron Rodgers. He made no mistakes ever.

- Running game was challenging for both HUM and CPU. That's good.

- The auto-subs didn't work how they should this game, but they did on the last slider test game I played.. I thought that was odd. The only reason I.Crowell came in for Cleveland was because B.Tate got injured.

- Overall, it was a very challenging game that I enjoyed. My only complaints were the auto-subs not working properly (I realize this was not your auto-sub set) , and Johnny Manziel playing like a Hall of Famer.

Hopefully this was some help to improve the sliders. Keep it up A&S!

Cleveland Browns at Pittsburgh Steelers
Sep 7, 20141ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
Cleveland Browns (1-0)01401327
Pittsburgh Steelers (0-1)368724
Team Stats Comparison
CLEPIT
Total Offense356322
Rushing Yards12270
Passing Yards234252
First Downs1718
Punt Return Yards044
Kick Return Yards30140
Total Yards386506
Turnovers0 (+3)3 (-3)
3rd Down Converstion6-146-14
4th Down Conversion0-11-1
2-Point Conversion0-01-1
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals3-33-4
Penalties2-202-20
Posession Time26:5325:07
Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORINGCLEPIT
8:31(PIT) S.Suisham, 51 Yd FG03
SECOND QUARTER SCORINGCLEPIT
11:40(CLE) B.Tate, 10 Yd pass from J.Manziel73
7:18(CLE) L.Hillard, 9 Yd pass from J.Manziel143
1:17(PIT) S.Suisham, 33 Yd FG146
0:00(PIT) S.Suisham, 43 Yd FG149
THIRD QUARTER SCORINGCLEPIT
7:08(PIT) L.Blount, 4 Yd run (2pt)1417
FOURTH QUARTER SCORINGCLEPIT
10:27(CLE) B.Cundiff, 21 Yd FG1717
6:10(PIT) H.Miller, 5 Yd pass from B.Roethlisberger1724
2:48(CLE) M.Austin, 24 Yd pass from J.Manziel2424
0:33(CLE) B.Cundiff, 21 Yd FG2724
Cleveland Browns
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
J.Manziel (136.9)24/3026630
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
B.Tate20643.20
I.Crowell6172.80
J.Manziel5438.60
Pittsburgh Steelers
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
B.Roethlisberger (70.7)28/4225212
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
L.Bell17623.60
L.Blount231.51
B.Roethlisberger133.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
A.Brown810112.60
H.Miller57515.01
M.Wheaton535700
L.Moore5265.20
L.Bell5153.00

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Old 08-27-2014, 04:47 PM   #50
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Re: Armor & Swords All-Pro Slow Simulation Style Sliders

I'll jump on-board with these. I've always liked your approach, as I play the same way. I will say though. I did play one game last night, after just getting this, and I left it on default ALL PRO with 15 min Qtrs. It played very well, and nothing seemed wrong, with the exception of maybe a few too many sacks, and possibly threshold speed. The Penalties and auto subs need work, but really after just the one game, I felt default was really good.

Oh...and I did play slow speed.
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:50 PM   #51
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Re: Armor & Swords All-Pro Slow Simulation Style Sliders

For Auto Subs in/out, I think they do work but it's kinda a weird way to apply it into CFM

I remember reading it from a Madden 25 slider post

To adjust your Sub in/out sliders:

You go to the settings when your first open up the game (Not loaded into CFM)
Adjust as needed then save it
Then when you load into your CFM or create new, I believe you go to Auto sub in/out and default it, and it should follow the setting you set it at outside of CFM

Don't take my word for it but thats how I remember Madden 25 auto subs working
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:52 PM   #52
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Re: Armor & Swords All-Pro Slow Simulation Style Sliders

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First of all, I just want to say that I really appreciate the time and effort ALL sliders makers put in to make Madden play how it should. Now with that being said, this slider set is a great start. Here are my thoughts/results after playing my first game with them. I used the exact set on the OP but I used 13 min. quarters with 15 sec. accel clock.. that got me 123 plays (Not counting Special Team Plays). I also used Charter04's Auto-sub set. I also player locked on the QB for every pass play, and chose one defensive player to lock on to before each play of defense.

Notes from the game:

- LeVeon Bell fumbled both times I attempted to jump over the line at the end zone with him.

- First interception I threw was an awful decision by me. The second was a Hail Mary at the end of the game.

- Johnny Manziel was sacked 5 times (3 of these sacks came on him scrambling and trying to run with it), I was sacked 0 times. Though I was hurried quite a few times.

- Johnny Football played like he was 2011 Aaron Rodgers. He made no mistakes ever.

- Running game was challenging for both HUM and CPU. That's good.

- The auto-subs didn't work how they should this game, but they did on the last slider test game I played.. I thought that was odd. The only reason I.Crowell came in for Cleveland was because B.Tate got injured.

- Overall, it was a very challenging game that I enjoyed. My only complaints were the auto-subs not working properly (I realize this was not your auto-sub set) , and Johnny Manziel playing like a Hall of Famer.

Cleveland Browns at Pittsburgh Steelers
Sep 7, 20141ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
Cleveland Browns (1-0)01401327
Pittsburgh Steelers (0-1)368724
Team Stats Comparison
CLEPIT
Total Offense356322
Rushing Yards12270
Passing Yards234252
First Downs1718
Punt Return Yards044
Kick Return Yards30140
Total Yards386506
Turnovers0 (+3)3 (-3)
3rd Down Converstion6-146-14
4th Down Conversion0-11-1
2-Point Conversion0-01-1
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals3-33-4
Penalties2-202-20
Posession Time26:5325:07
Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORINGCLEPIT
8:31(PIT) S.Suisham, 51 Yd FG03
SECOND QUARTER SCORINGCLEPIT
11:40(CLE) B.Tate, 10 Yd pass from J.Manziel73
7:18(CLE) L.Hillard, 9 Yd pass from J.Manziel143
1:17(PIT) S.Suisham, 33 Yd FG146
0:00(PIT) S.Suisham, 43 Yd FG149
THIRD QUARTER SCORINGCLEPIT
7:08(PIT) L.Blount, 4 Yd run (2pt)1417
FOURTH QUARTER SCORINGCLEPIT
10:27(CLE) B.Cundiff, 21 Yd FG1717
6:10(PIT) H.Miller, 5 Yd pass from B.Roethlisberger1724
2:48(CLE) M.Austin, 24 Yd pass from J.Manziel2424
0:33(CLE) B.Cundiff, 21 Yd FG2724
Cleveland Browns
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
J.Manziel (136.9)24/3026630
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
B.Tate20643.20
I.Crowell6172.80
J.Manziel5438.60
Pittsburgh Steelers
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
B.Roethlisberger (70.7)28/4225212
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
L.Bell17623.60
L.Blount231.51
B.Roethlisberger133.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
A.Brown810112.60
H.Miller57515.01
M.Wheaton535700
L.Moore5265.20
L.Bell5153.00


yea in few games I've play like I meantioned manziel has played lights out like hes not a rookie.


and also about charters sub's I never ever got those to work I used those last yr and only time ever the rb got replaced was if he had a long run then back up come in for 1 play go back on bench for rest of game same for wr's only time they sub out is if one got hurt.
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Re: Armor & Swords All-Pro Slow Simulation Style Sliders

I remember the same exact thing about Auto-Subs as well. I will work on a set and post it tonight. Hopefully it will work the same way.

In the meantime I would just go ahead and use formation and package subs to get your second RB carries. And for DL subs use the package subs to rest them if they had a long drive and then you go three and out and you see they are really wiped out.

As far as Johnny Football......I would nerf some of his ratings before going into CFM. In fact once the opening weekend Roster is available I am going to go in and do my own re-rates on offensive rookies and certain players to my liking before I start my CFM. I am not doing a total re-rate roster or anything...just some personal tweaking (like taking down the over ratted Russell Wilson...jeez man give me a break with those ratings on him). Efficient passer/smart QB like him as a player...but by no means a stud....just stop it!
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Old 08-27-2014, 05:18 PM   #54
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Re: Armor & Swords All-Pro Slow Simulation Style Sliders

hey armor, im waiting 4 for the all madden sliders but will these sliders work with 6 min quarters with no accelerated clock bc everyone seems to be testing on 15 min quarters and playing 15 min quarters is just too long.
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I remember the same exact thing about Auto-Subs as well. I will work on a set and post it tonight. Hopefully it will work the same way.

In the meantime I would just go ahead and use formation and package subs to get your second RB carries. And for DL subs use the package subs to rest them if they had a long drive and then you go three and out and you see they are really wiped out.

As far as Johnny Football......I would nerd some of his ratings before going into CFM. In fact once the opening weekend Roster is available I am going to go in and do my own re-rates on offensive rookies and certain players to my liking before I start my CFM. I am not doing a total re-rate roster or anything...just some personal tweaking (like taking down the over ratted Russell Wilson...jeez man give me a break with those ratings on him). Efficient passer/smart QB like him as a player...but by no means a stud....just stop it!


the funny thing is if u compare Johnny Football to Wilson they actually gave manziel better stats the only stats that Wilson is way better then manziel is in awr JF 57 RW 84 and PA JF 60 RW 91 the other stats manziel has Wilson beat in. also overall goes to Wilson because he's a 93 Manziel a 77.
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It's set at default as they do not work like they do outside of CFM. So I am testing fatigue and also I set up my formation subs as I play in the first quarter for RB rotation purposes. When I see my DL needs a breather I simply use the package sub within the play calling screen.

It is what it is. It has not worked since M13.
I'm of the opinion that whatever auto subs I use to get realistic results for my players, the same should be done for CPU players. Now maybe there is a way that would work, though time consuming. When doing 32 team control, setup auto subs for all teams, just like you do for your team--in CFM.
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