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  • JoshC1977
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    • Dec 2010
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    JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

    I have come very close to getting a set I like even better than version 4. My goals were as follows:
    • Get more CPU QB pocket movement without sacrificing their skill level
    • Make line play more dynamic and fluid. I felt the previous set was too static, like a couple of walls pushing back and forth.
    • Give the User the deep ball back. With the old set, I could never manage to get a deep completion as the DB would react too quickly. The new setting opens this possibility again; without sacrificing good DB play.
    • Get some penalties back.

    Well, I feel like I have accomplished this with Version 5. As a note, I am playing offline with fairly default rosters (i.e. no QB edits). I also play on the default angle on both sides of the ball (I believe the defensive angle makes it too easy to get the pass rush moves down). If you like playing on the D-line with the defensive angle, you may see too many sacks.....I just don't know.

    Version 5
    Mode: CFM
    Speed: NORMAL
    Gameplay: All-Madden
    qtr length: 12min
    accel clock: 20 sec
    injuries: Personal choice - I am using 55
    fatigue: 60
    speed threshold: 50
    ball hawk: off
    strafe assist: off
    heat seeker assist: off
    switch assist: off


    HUM/CPU
    qb acc: 6/60
    pass blocking: 2/2
    wr catching: 40/40
    run blocking: 2/2
    Fumbles: 35/35
    Reaction time: 60/30
    interceptions: 35/35
    Pass coverage: 60/45
    tackling: 20/20


    Special Teams - (same for both)
    FG Power - 50
    FG Acc - 39
    Punt Power - 50
    Punt Acc - 80
    KO Power - 51

    Penalties SUPER IMPORTANT!!!
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    Offside: 99
    False Start: 99
    Holding: 99
    Facemask: 52
    DPI: 99
    OPI: 99
    PCI: 50
    Clipping: 35
    int grounding: 30
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    roughing the kicker: 50

    AUTOSUBS - Courtesy of aholbert32 http://www.operationsports.com/forum...b-sliders.html

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    RB - 78/82
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  • tc020791
    MVP
    • Sep 2010
    • 2012

    #2
    JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

    Man you are on to something here. I did what everyone says to and loaded these thru my CFM from the home instead of manually putting them in and I must say this is the best experience I've had so far and I've tried every set on here. I went exactly what you have on here number for number in my first CFM test. The CPU run game was having trouble so I decided to up FUM to 65 instead of 40 as IMO it creates a more crafty RB. After pretty much a full game the only issue I had was my run game was a little too good. I'm thinking of going down 5 on HUM run blk. As far as sacks go I'm starting to come to the unfortunate conclusion that I can't control any lineman ever. Although this sucks it's just something we may have to live with. Without controlling D-lineman I had 2 sacks and I also had 2 while controlling them.

    In this game I was only able to get thru about 3 1/2 quarters but gameplay and stats were spot on. I was the Ravens at home against Cincy in Week 1.

    Key Stats:

    Hum sacks -- 4

    Dalton (CPU) -- 17/28 199 1 TD 1 INT

    Flacco-- 14/26 205 2 TD 1 INT

    Bernard(CPU)-- 18 for 81

    Pierce-- 19 for 111

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    • JoshC1977
      All Star
      • Dec 2010
      • 11564

      #3
      Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

      OMG....there is this stupid ad for Mazda that keeps messing up my view of this site......it is driving me crazy....

      Anyways....good feedback on the sliders. A higher fumble setting is intriguing; I played with it some and see potential; but it makes the CPU run game too good.

      To offset the stronger run game on both sides, I am going to raise clipping back to 50.
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      • jeffjr1980
        Rookie
        • Nov 2012
        • 48

        #4
        Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

        These look pretty promising Josh, can't wait to try them out tonight. Are you seeing to many user sacks or does this set alleviate that, also is the cpu qb throwing down the field at all?

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        • JoshC1977
          All Star
          • Dec 2010
          • 11564

          #5
          Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

          Originally posted by jeffjr1980
          These look pretty promising Josh, can't wait to try them out tonight. Are you seeing to many user sacks or does this set alleviate that, also is the cpu qb throwing down the field at all?
          The CPU qb is definitely throwing cornfield, depending on the team. I need a bigger sample size about the sacks though. Please give these a try and let me know what you see.
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          • tc020791
            MVP
            • Sep 2010
            • 2012

            #6
            JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

            Played another game. WAS(me) @ HOU.

            WAS -- STAT -- HOU

            4 -- Sacks -- 1

            25/35 -- Completions -- 23/36

            300 -- Pass Yards -- 185

            3 -- INT -- 0

            26-120 -- Rushing -- 20-85


            All in all another solid game. I turned the ball over 4 times yet it was still 10-10 with a minute to go in the fourth when I stopped playing. I felt like I should've been losing for sure. It seemed like the Texans weren't getting any pressure on RGIII and the skins below average line. This caused RGIII to pretty much do whatever he wanted. If not for the 4 turnovers I probably would have been up 30-3 as I had out gained the Texans 420-270. I'm going to try and lower HUM pass block. In my testing I had it at 0 at one point and it still wasn't too hard to pass so I may end up there.

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            • JoshC1977
              All Star
              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #7
              Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

              Good stuff. I will monitor CPU sacks on the user and will make sure no adjustments are needed.
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              • A ONE MAN R ME
                Rookie
                • Jul 2010
                • 34

                #8
                Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

                Originally posted by tc020791
                Man you are on to something here. I did what everyone says to and loaded these thru my CFM from the home instead of manually putting them in and I must say this is the best experience I've had so far and I've tried every set on here.
                Can you please elaborate on this? Are you loading them through his gamertag???
                "The difference between the impossible and the possible lies in a man's determination." Tommy Lasorda

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                • tc020791
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 2012

                  #9
                  Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

                  Originally posted by A ONE MAN R ME
                  Can you please elaborate on this? Are you loading them through his gamertag???

                  No all you have to do is go to the main home screen before you go into your CFM and change the sliders. Then load your CFM go to sliders and press 🔼 or Y depending on your system. Make sure you change everything in the main game settings including penalties and thresh hold as they will all be loaded in when our press 🔼/Y

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                  • A ONE MAN R ME
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 34

                    #10
                    Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

                    Originally posted by tc020791
                    No all you have to do is go to the main home screen before you go into your CFM and change the sliders. Then load your CFM go to sliders and press 🔼 or Y depending on your system. Make sure you change everything in the main game settings including penalties and thresh hold as they will all be loaded in when our press 🔼/Y
                    Thank you sir!
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                    • Kramer5150
                      Medicore Mike
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 7393

                      #11
                      Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

                      Josh,
                      Have you loaded these up on Madden share yet? oh yea...are you on PS4 or X1?

                      Just also gotta say...DAMN do those penalty sliders look familiar...
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                      • JoshC1977
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 11564

                        #12
                        Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

                        Originally posted by CowherPower
                        Josh,
                        Have you loaded these up on Madden share yet? oh yea...are you on PS4 or X1?

                        Just also gotta say...DAMN do those penalty sliders look familiar...
                        I haven't loaded them yet as I am still tweaking some things....they will be uploaded on the PS4 though.

                        Oh yes, they ARE familiar aren't they?
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                        • RebelHog
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1022

                          #13
                          Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

                          This might have been the best slider test game I have ever done.


                          Patriots 38 Rams 31. The game had big pass plays, run plays, awesome broken tackles, great special teams moments. And yes count them 6 penalties total. I am not using any other slider if I get this again.

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                          • Kramer5150
                            Medicore Mike
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 7393

                            #14
                            Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

                            Got a game in with these,and you my friend did an awesome job.

                            I played Buffalo,and absolutely blew them out 33-3. The running game seemed to be on point,although the only issue I may have (and it might just be Buffalo) is I was able to pass pretty much at will with Roethlisberger.

                            I'm not going into "panic" mode or anything,after all...it's only 1 game,and we know how that goes....lmao

                            It was nice to see the cpu running game open up...but what is weird though,with lowering hum RB,my running "felt" a bit easier....on 50,I couldn't run worth a damn....so not sure if there's some screwy business with the RB slider...lol

                            It was nice to see broken tackles,and the need for "help" cleaning up the run.

                            Not sure what you could be tweaking at this point,as these felt pretty darn nice
                            People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
                            “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
                            “Quarterbacks should wear dresses.” Jack Lambert

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                            • JoshC1977
                              All Star
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 11564

                              #15
                              Re: JoshC1977's AP Slider Set (based on NCAA 14 OS Slider Set)

                              Originally posted by CowherPower
                              Got a game in with these,and you my friend did an awesome job.

                              I played Buffalo,and absolutely blew them out 33-3. The running game seemed to be on point,although the only issue I may have (and it might just be Buffalo) is I was able to pass pretty much at will with Roethlisberger.

                              I'm not going into "panic" mode or anything,after all...it's only 1 game,and we know how that goes....lmao

                              It was nice to see the cpu running game open up...but what is weird though,with lowering hum RB,my running "felt" a bit easier....on 50,I couldn't run worth a damn....so not sure if there's some screwy business with the RB slider...lol

                              It was nice to see broken tackles,and the need for "help" cleaning up the run.

                              Not sure what you could be tweaking at this point,as these felt pretty darn nice
                              Awesome, I'm glad you enjoyed them Cowher, I am very happy you tried them out. I have seen a variety of games from the Human QB in the games I have played, so your game against a bad buffalo D will not always happen against better opponents.

                              That said, if you play as a smart QB (and have a good QB on your team) you can probably be fairly successful on short pass patterns. I'm not going to overcompensate the slider set to make things impossible though as most NFL teams can do this if they try.

                              The only thing that is really bugging me is that the line play is too static - two players will just hold onto one another and rock back and forth....it's why the CPU QB can sometimes just sit back in the pocket for 10 seconds without being touched. I was playing around last night and actually dropped all of the block ratings to 0 - and was still seeing it; just not to that same degree. I think the holding slider might be the culprit here.

                              Once I get that ironed out, I will load these onto the PS4 share.
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