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Old 12-29-2014, 10:43 AM   #801
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Did you go with run blocking 1 or zero for human? I found anything over 1 was too easy, but zero was just too hard. Obviously other sliders play a role here too, but if I were you, I'd role with zero and adjust everything else from there if need be. Zero certainly gives you the toughest running game. You could also look to reduce holding, but that would also likely effect pass blocking and CPU run game, but those can obviously be tweaked further by raising CPU run block and pass block for example.

Though your running game was strong 1st half, you only put up 6 points and were down by 18. Why was that? There's other settings I've gone back and forth on to tone down the CPU's All-Madden effectiveness, depending on what you're seeing. For example; lowering WRC by 5 to 35 which directly influences CPU passing game and lowers completion %. Also, lowering reaction time and interceptions by 5-10 to tame CPU coverage. And lastly, lowering run block and fumbles by 5 so they are 25 and 35 respectively, which tones down the CPU run game. Who knows, you may have actually enjoyed the challenge of being down by 18 at the half?

Best of luck.
I went with 1, but will probably reduce to 0. I was behind because, 1) I got stuffed on a couple of 3rd down runs and had to punt; 2) Kaepernick was breaking containment and running for 1st downs and shredding my defense.
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Old 12-29-2014, 02:56 PM   #802
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I have RB at 1, Holding at 0, CPU Tkl at 23 and last game I barely hit 100 yards (104) with the jags against the eagles and this was with a 50 yard run by dennard so without that run, my run game would've been stifled. The best part was that I ran the same exact play that I got the 50 yarder on (stretch play), only 3 plays later on 3&inches and got stuffed in the backfield, it was great to see. The only issue I'm.having is the CPU run game. If you tame it to much the CPU can't move the rock cuz they constantly call 4 verticals if they can't run and get into 3rd down and 8+. The game against the eagles they only finished with 94 yards and McCoy had 3.7 ypc with a long around 20 yards. This was with CPU RB at 9, Holding 0, and USER TKL at 1. With these settings the eagles were struggling hard against me as the jags, in the end they were able to pull out a win 23-16 by returning a fumble on a Kickoff with 20 seconds left. The dissapointing part is that the very next game I played in CFM was rams (me) vs vikings. I loaded in my sliders before this game again to make sure they were good to go so I don't think that was the problem. At the end of the third quarter Peterson had 28 carries for 270 yards and this is with the exact settings I was using against McCoy. What I'm trying to get at is do you guys think that its better for low end be about 90 yards and high end 300? Or more like 30 yards and 200? The only issue is if you can hold a team under 50 yards rushing you almost gauarntee yourself a win in this game no matter what team you are or what team you're playing.

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Old 12-29-2014, 09:51 PM   #803
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I went with 1, but will probably reduce to 0. I was behind because, 1) I got stuffed on a couple of 3rd down runs and had to punt; 2) Kaepernick was breaking containment and running for 1st downs and shredding my defense.
I went back and played another quarter and pretty much dominated on the ground running from the shotgun. I don't think the adjustments made any difference at all.
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Old 12-30-2014, 10:49 AM   #804
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I have RB at 1, Holding at 0, CPU Tkl at 23 and last game I barely hit 100 yards (104) with the jags against the eagles and this was with a 50 yard run by dennard so without that run, my run game would've been stifled. The best part was that I ran the same exact play that I got the 50 yarder on (stretch play), only 3 plays later on 3&inches and got stuffed in the backfield, it was great to see. The only issue I'm.having is the CPU run game. If you tame it to much the CPU can't move the rock cuz they constantly call 4 verticals if they can't run and get into 3rd down and 8+. The game against the eagles they only finished with 94 yards and McCoy had 3.7 ypc with a long around 20 yards. This was with CPU RB at 9, Holding 0, and USER TKL at 1. With these settings the eagles were struggling hard against me as the jags, in the end they were able to pull out a win 23-16 by returning a fumble on a Kickoff with 20 seconds left. The dissapointing part is that the very next game I played in CFM was rams (me) vs vikings. I loaded in my sliders before this game again to make sure they were good to go so I don't think that was the problem. At the end of the third quarter Peterson had 28 carries for 270 yards and this is with the exact settings I was using against McCoy. What I'm trying to get at is do you guys think that its better for low end be about 90 yards and high end 300? Or more like 30 yards and 200? The only issue is if you can hold a team under 50 yards rushing you almost gauarntee yourself a win in this game no matter what team you are or what team you're playing.
There is definitely a certain amount of things the CPU must be allowed to do in this game, in my experience, for them to be competitive; such as: having a higher than realistic completion percentage; having a higher yards per carry average, etc. And it does appear, from my observations that the CPU will call more plays in regards to which type of play, run or pass, they can get more yards with. Thus the CPU really s balance touchy and IMO needs to be adjusted with balance in mind, not so much of meeting NFL goals like completion percentage rate, but first try to get the CPU to average a fair amount of runs versus passes, and then try to evenly dial up or down the sliders to get as simulation type a game as you can possibly get, which most likely isn't gonna be very sim acceptable..

Thus maybe, CPU sliders need to be, for example, if you have pass blocking at 40, then run blocking should also be at 40; Seems in my experience, pass blocking effects how well any QB and the passing game performs, and likewise with the run block and run game...From there, the run and pass game has other sliders, such as penalty sliders that can help or hinder either part of the offensive game...That is where balance starts to get tricky as penalty sliders seems to be by far the most whacky of all the sliders.

FOr example, I can go into practice mode - examine the attributes of my offensive line and lead or pull blockers and then call a run play over and over until I get a slider setting in run blocking and fumbles to where I can visually see the players following the play diagram drawn up for them, allowing for deviation per their ratings....Essentially, as I see it, a 60 for example means, that out of 100 plays, the player will be a winner 60 times and a loser 40 times: that is the very basic, without adding in the effects of the other players attributes that counter another players attributes.

For me, I try to identify where the game has attributes unevenly mismatched, for example, QB Acc, with all sliders equal, are generally too high. But is QB Acc too out of whack or is there a defensive attribute that is not up to par?

Another issue, as an example, is tackling...A tackle rating of 50 seems to allow too many tackles by the DT's, for one, not to mention tackle effects the pursuit path; so it seems that the tackle slider does need to be toned down to reduce the number of times the DT can make a tackle, but also, Facemask seems to have an effect on the intensity of the hits, as well as the number of facemask animations.

It really is a cluster mess of interconnected sliders compounded by the fact that we are all working on hypothesis and theories because EA/Tiburon REFUSES to give a detailed explanation of sliders...Though they gave an apparently great explanation of player attributes under their MUT section of the EASPORTS site...Nothing on sliders though....SMH

(sorry, I rambled, need more coffee)
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I went back and played another quarter and pretty much dominated on the ground running from the shotgun. I don't think the adjustments made any difference at all.
Can't help you then without potentially breaking other aspects of gameplay. Maybe it's just your Cowboys in your CFM. If you're dominating every game, their confidence would be peaking, and Cowboys at default are a dominant run team as it is. One of the best in the league, with Murray arguably the best RB. Combine that with the exploited shotgun runs, and there's your outcome.

Obviously you could go to the full extreme with HUM run block and fumbles 0, and CPU tackle 100. Also offsides 100, holding 0, false start 0. That's the complete extreme, and it's much simpler to make the gameplay easier as opposed to harder from that point on. That method would almost certainly guarantee other aspects of the game to suffer but. I'd actually love to hear your results using those changes on All-Madden. That's essentially the hardest you could make the running game in M15.
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I went with 1, but will probably reduce to 0. I was behind because, 1) I got stuffed on a couple of 3rd down runs and had to punt; 2) Kaepernick was breaking containment and running for 1st downs and shredding my defense.
Ok, I'm officially confused with this thread. It seams like no one is using the sliders on the first page?

I just got Madden for Christmas and I tried the sliders in the OP and I would agree that the HUM run game is too easy. What sliders should I start to tweak to make it harder on the HUM running the ball without ruining other aspects of the game?
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:13 AM   #807
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Ok, I'm officially confused with this thread. It seams like no one is using the sliders on the first page?

I just got Madden for Christmas and I tried the sliders in the OP and I would agree that the HUM run game is too easy. What sliders should I start to tweak to make it harder on the HUM running the ball without ruining other aspects of the game?
It says in the OP. Lower human run block for tougher running game. Its set at 35. You have some leeway there. I have mine at 1 personally.
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:25 AM   #808
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61 and 62 are the most realistic Injury sliders you can set. They generally keep in line with the simmed injuries. Anything lower and you don't get enough injuries. 62 is by far the most accurate, however when set the QB for some reason gets hurt ridiculously easy and 90% of the time after one game your punter will be your starter. 61 is almost right on target and a suitable substitute.
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