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Old 12-24-2015, 10:42 AM   #929
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Just an observation. Crazy how much auto subs changes overall gameplay. Played using the 60/80 and noticed the differences you described Josh. The gameplay did seem easier in my very small sample size. For fun, I went back and left auto subs at default. 60/80 in MM and 50/50 in CFM. Gameplay difference was even more extreme. Not in a good way. Tackling was very stiff meaning little broken tackles. Suction blocking was back in full effect and my d line men were being blown of the line. Crazy how just a small adjustment in CFM auto subs from 60/80 to 50/50 makes such a huge adjustment.
Isn't it wild? I was really surprised at the impact which is why I didn't post this for a couple of weeks while getting some games in....I kept thinking it was placebo...but it really doesn't seem to be.

I still like the original autosubs as well and they may be where I wind up long-term. I think that coach mode players in particular will like the 60/80 autosubs.
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Old 12-24-2015, 10:43 AM   #930
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Is this with the tuner on or off? And do you think these would work well in play now cpu vs cpu?
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Old 12-24-2015, 10:47 AM   #931
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Is this with the tuner on or off? And do you think these would work well in play now cpu vs cpu?
Tuner is fine.

Everything is tested in CFM - they might be OK in Play Now, but it will definitely not be as good.
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Old 12-24-2015, 10:51 AM   #932
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About the 60/80 auto - sub setting, this is something I tested like crazy in last year's game

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Old 12-24-2015, 10:55 AM   #933
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Maybe I'm the only one, but I think I'm more comfortable with accel clock ON, 15 minute quarters, 15 second runoff.

Injuries: 65
Fatigue: 65

All sliders 50 except pass blocking 40 and tackling 45 (same for both USER and CPU).

Penalties:
Offsides: 50-60
False Start: 50-60
Offensive Holding: 40-50
Defensive Holding: 55-55
Facemask: 40-50
Illegal Block ITB: 50-50
RTP: 50-50
Def PI: 55-55
All others ON.

QB Sub Out: 5
QB Sub In: 10
*up from 0-1 for testing*
RB Sub Out: 90
RB Sub In: 95
*down from 99-100 for testing*
WR Sub Out: 60
WR Sub In: 65
FB/TE Sub Out: 50
FB/TE Sub In: 55
OL Sub Out: 5
OL Sub In: 10
*up from 0-1 for testing*
DT Sub Out: 80
DT Sub In: 85
DE Sub Out: 80
DE Sub In: 85
LB Sub Out: 70
LB Sub In: 75
CB Sub Out: 50
CB Sub In: 55
S Sub Out: 50
S Sub In: 55

Getting really good gameplay. Only thing I can wish for is more of a challenge, but I do have a talented Steelers roster and get some good close games. Just played the Cardinals, some notables: Palmer went 20-30 for 292 yards, 2 TD's, and 1 INT. Meanwhile with Roethlisberger I went 20-30 for 270 yards and 2 TD's. Almost identical QB stats. AB got locked down by Peterson. Had just 1 catch for 6 yards, and he's usually huge for me. Peterson played one heck of a game. Stopped looking his way in the second half. Miller can thank Peterson for his career day of 125 yards and 2 TD's. I won 31-24 but was trailing 17-7 just before the half. Bell was my man rushing for 144 yards on 4.8 YPC and 2 TD's. D-Will subbed him nicely having 10 carries for nearly 50 yards. I sacked Palmer 3 times with Dupree, Jarvis Jones, Timmons. Only Timmons was USER controlled. Palmers final hail mary attempt was the lone INT. They had Stephen Jackson at RB who had 14 carries for 72 yards and 1 fumble caused by Shazier. Couldn't stop John Brown who was constantly moving the sticks for them. Carved me up for 120+ yards and a long TD, somehow eluding 2 would be tacklers who ended up face down in the dirt. Interestingly, Michael Floyd had 7 pancakes matched up against the tiny Brandon Boykin outside. This is why he's strictly a nickel corner best utilized against smaller shiftier receivers.
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Old 12-24-2015, 10:57 AM   #934
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Higher auto-subs as a gameplay slider. I first noticed it with RBs and with WR/DB interaction. With RBs at 0/1 I saw them all running exactly the same, one cut then straight up into the defense. At 99/100 I saw spins, jukes, hurdles, stiff arms. Also, with CB at 99/100 and WR at 0/1 it was almost impossible for WRs to get off the line without a super successful jam by the CB. I thought of the auto-sub setting as an effort slider. Almost as though at 0/1 that position didn't want to sub out, so it didn't use as much "energy" or animations.

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Tuner is fine.

Everything is tested in CFM - they might be OK in Play Now, but it will definitely not be as good.
Alright thanks man. Driving myself crazy trying to find some good cpu vs cpu sliders haha ill report back on the stats I come up with.
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Old 12-24-2015, 01:02 PM   #936
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Gonna be rolling with the Panthers (War Cam Eagle!).

Curious, Josh, are you satisfied with the 75/75 for injuries/fatigue? Both seem really high. Not doubting you (or anyone else who has obviously put in the work)--just checking you're comfortable with those numbers before I get this going...TIA!

Edit: 70/75; sorry!
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