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Old 11-28-2015, 11:00 PM   #601
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Most recent game. This was before I saw your most recent post about Block in the Back and DPI adjustments.

San Francisco 49ers at Pittsburgh Steelers
Jan 1, 1ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
San Francisco 49ers (HUM)0130013
Pittsburgh Steelers (CPU)32117748
Team Stats Comparison
SFOPIT
Total Offense253504
Rushing Yards97182
Passing Yards156322
First Downs920
Punt Return Yards411
Kick Return Yards1040
Total Yards361515
Turnovers42
3rd Down Converstion3-107-11
4th Down Conversion0-00-0
2-Point Conversion0-00-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals
Penalties7-708-91
Posession Time16:2331:37
San Francisco 49ers
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Blaine Gabbert14/2617003
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
Carlos Hyde11726.50
Reggie Bush2136.50
Travaris Cadet155.00
Jarryd Hayne144.01
Blaine Gabbert (1 FUMB)133.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
Anquan Boldin56813.60
Vance McDonald33511.60
Reggie Bush12929.00
Jerome Simpson11515.00
Torrey Smith11212.00
Quinton Patton294.50
Jarryd Hayne122.00
Pittsburgh Steelers
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Ben Roethlisberger18/2833042
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
Le'Veon Bell271314.81
DeAngelo Williams8293.60
Ben Roethlisberger4225.50
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
Sammie Coates512525.01
Heath Miller710615.11
Martavis Bryant34816.00
Antonio Brown12626.01
Markus Wheaton11818.00
Le'Veon Bell177.01


Notes:

1) The All-Madden cheese drives me nuts sometimes. Saw DB's and LB's getting a speed boost out of nowhere to deflect my passes.

2) CPU had 9 pancakes to my 1. (again this is common on All-Madden)

3) Was nice to see penalties :-)

4) My d-line had a hard time shedding blocks on passing plays. They did ok on run plays, but Big Ben had all day to throw. I sacked him once i believe. When i did bring heat he torched me.

I'm going to give the All-Madden set a few more games before I switch back to All-Pro. It's just the "cheating" CPU can drive me crazy.

EDIT: For clarity, I like the fact that the Steelers creamed me (as they should), I would just rather them beat me because their players are better and not because it felt like the game engine "cheating" so that they could win. Does that make sense?
When you see defenders making those lightning quick plays, I really just thinks it's Maddens way of displaying a mediocre to below avg qb throw. I also say this b/c when I have a good qb and it's a WR that has better abilities than the defender, I can actually get the WR to win the lightning quick reaction contest.
I would suggest trying more than 1 team and qb. I can throw for 400+ with the Falcons vs Saints(cpu) 4tds 2ints and then I use the Seahawks vs Panthers(cpu) I struggle to get over 250yds and throw 1 td 3ints.

Another thing to consider is AM difficulty is made for guys that switch and user plays more so. If your playing AM "no switch", it's always going to give the cpu the edge. As for the cpu pancakes, you could always lower the cpu rbk and maybe even the cpu pbk seeing how your not getting pressure.
I actually user the D-Lineman and I can usually scheme up a good pass rush once I catch on to what the cpu is trying to do. For ex. Cam would buy time with his feet and look to throw 10-20yds downfield, so I had to scheme to slow that down. But when I played the Saints, Brees would hit anyone who was open, short, med, deep and made it a harder challenge to get pressure and sacks. Vs Cam my team got 5 sacks Vs Brees we got 2. So it's more about knowing who and what style of team your facing and gameplanning to stop what they want to do.

Sorry for the long post but AM is really bringing gameplay out of the cpu that you just don't see on AP imo

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Old 11-28-2015, 11:21 PM   #602
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Originally Posted by eastcoast49ers
Most recent game. This was before I saw your most recent post about Block in the Back and DPI adjustments.

San Francisco 49ers at Pittsburgh Steelers
Jan 1, 1ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
San Francisco 49ers (HUM)0130013
Pittsburgh Steelers (CPU)32117748
Team Stats Comparison

SFOPIT
Total Offense253504
Rushing Yards97182
Passing Yards156322
First Downs920
Punt Return Yards411
Kick Return Yards1040
Total Yards361515
Turnovers42
3rd Down Converstion3-107-11
4th Down Conversion0-00-0
2-Point Conversion0-00-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals

Penalties7-708-91
Posession Time16:2331:37
San Francisco 49ers
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Blaine Gabbert14/2617003
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
Carlos Hyde11726.50
Reggie Bush2136.50
Travaris Cadet155.00
Jarryd Hayne144.01
Blaine Gabbert (1 FUMB)133.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
Anquan Boldin56813.60
Vance McDonald33511.60
Reggie Bush12929.00
Jerome Simpson11515.00
Torrey Smith11212.00
Quinton Patton294.50
Jarryd Hayne122.00
Pittsburgh Steelers
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Ben Roethlisberger18/2833042
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
Le'Veon Bell271314.81
DeAngelo Williams8293.60
Ben Roethlisberger4225.50
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
Sammie Coates512525.01
Heath Miller710615.11
Martavis Bryant34816.00
Antonio Brown12626.01
Markus Wheaton11818.00
Le'Veon Bell177.01


Notes:

1) The All-Madden cheese drives me nuts sometimes. Saw DB's and LB's getting a speed boost out of nowhere to deflect my passes.

2) CPU had 9 pancakes to my 1. (again this is common on All-Madden)

3) Was nice to see penalties :-)

4) My d-line had a hard time shedding blocks on passing plays. They did ok on run plays, but Big Ben had all day to throw. I sacked him once i believe. When i did bring heat he torched me.

I'm going to give the All-Madden set a few more games before I switch back to All-Pro. It's just the "cheating" CPU can drive me crazy.

EDIT: For clarity, I like the fact that the Steelers creamed me (as they should), I would just rather them beat me because their players are better and not because it felt like the game engine "cheating" so that they could win. Does that make sense?
It makes perfect sense to me. It looks like you really had a tough one - but I do like that you were at least able to run the football on them. Maybe it's my style of play, but I always struggle with running on All Madden (even reading the defense, adjusting left-right, and trying to read the blocks). I keep trying to like All Madden - but it is incredibly frustrating for me.

Edit: 1 note, the DPI adjustment I made after your game may help a bit with some of the warping by defenders that you pointed out.
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Old 11-28-2015, 11:36 PM   #603
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Josh, I tried all madden and almost threw my controller through the tv. I went back to default all pro and neither team can establish a run (using op default sliders with your other tweaks). Is there anything I can do for both sides to boost the run game?
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When you see defenders making those lightning quick plays, I really just thinks it's Maddens way of displaying a mediocre to below avg qb throw. I also say this b/c when I have a good qb and it's a WR that has better abilities than the defender, I can actually get the WR to win the lightning quick reaction contest.
I would suggest trying more than 1 team and qb. I can throw for 400+ with the Falcons vs Saints(cpu) 4tds 2ints and then I use the Seahawks vs Panthers(cpu) I struggle to get over 250yds and throw 1 td 3ints.

Another thing to consider is AM difficulty is made for guys that switch and user plays more so. If your playing AM "no switch", it's always going to give the cpu the edge. As for the cpu pancakes, you could always lower the cpu rbk and maybe even the cpu pbk seeing how your not getting pressure.
I actually user the D-Lineman and I can usually scheme up a good pass rush once I catch on to what the cpu is trying to do. For ex. Cam would buy time with his feet and look to throw 10-20yds downfield, so I had to scheme to slow that down. But when I played the Saints, Brees would hit anyone who was open, short, med, deep and made it a harder challenge to get pressure and sacks. Vs Cam my team got 5 sacks Vs Brees we got 2. So it's more about knowing who and what style of team your facing and gameplanning to stop what they want to do.

Sorry for the long post but AM is really bringing gameplay out of the cpu that you just don't see on AP imo
This is interesting because I use strictly coach mode and don't control any of the players and I've recently switched from AP to AM and I've noticed a huge difference in not only how closer the games are but how bad my team can play. I use the Patriots.

I'm wondering if coach mode is even playable in AM. Or if it's made for players that actually control all the players, and do everything themselves....and are GOOD players.
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Josh, I tried all madden and almost threw my controller through the tv. I went back to default all pro and neither team can establish a run (using op default sliders with your other tweaks). Is there anything I can do for both sides to boost the run game?
(hoping that this was with tonight's setup)
If it's for both sides, try adjusting the main menu offensive holding to 20.

...and I share your pain about All Madden ....I'm debating right now about possibly building my own All Madden set.
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This is interesting because I use strictly coach mode and don't control any of the players and I've recently switched from AP to AM and I've noticed a huge difference in not only how closer the games are but how bad my team can play. I use the Patriots.

I'm wondering if coach mode is even playable in AM. Or if it's made for players that actually control all the players, and do everything themselves....and are GOOD players.
The vast majority of coach mode players that I know play on either AP or Pro....there is probably a good reason for that.
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(hoping that this was with tonight's setup)
If it's for both sides, try adjusting the main menu offensive holding to 20.

...and I share your pain about All Madden ....I'm debating right now about possibly building my own All Madden set.
Yes this was with tonight's updates. So drop offensive holding on the main menu to 20 but keep it where it is when we bump it in the cfm.

I feel like all pro is still the right level this year... If I can get a run game going for both sides I'll be happy. I was running much better on all madden with your tweaks which made no sense to me lol. Ok I'll try tomorrow before the games start.
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The vast majority of coach mode players that I know play on either AP or Pro....there is probably a good reason for that.
Good to know Josh. I'll go back to AP after this game.
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