Seb's All-Pro sliders

[viking12344]

I gave these a try tonight...because I like to try everyones sliders and am halfway through week 1 game bucs vs titans. I always play this game with new sliders to see how Winston plays, I always take the titans.. I also like that you are a vikes fan because so am I (not that it means anything).
So I don't know why but your sliders are the only set I have plugged in where Winston takes off running when there is trouble. I have played this game 6-7 times now and can count on 1 hand how many times winston took off from the pocket. He has run 5x in the first half so far, a couple for nice gains. I closed it down at halftime to finish tomorrow but so far 6-0 bucs.

[sebennayx]

Official game 5:

Chiefs @ Vikings (Week 6 CFM)

Notable injuries:
Vikings:
- Robert Blanton - SS - 87 OVR
Chiefs:
- Hakeem Nicks - WR - 80 OVR

Kansas City Chiefs at Minnesota Vikings
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Kansas City Chiefs (?-?)	7	3	0	10	20
Minnesota Vikings (2-2)	10	0	10	3	23

Team Stats Comparison
	KAN	MIN
Total Offense	316	324
Rushing Yards	120	142
Passing Yards	196	182
First Downs	13	18
Punt Return Yards	23	79
Kick Return Yards	96	77
Total Yards	435	480
Turnovers	1	1
3rd Down Converstion	5-13	4-13
4th Down Conversion	0	1-1
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/0	2/1
Penalties	2-49	4-30
Posession Time	24:00	36:00

Kansas City Chiefs PASSING C/A YDS TD INT A. Smith 18/34 206 0 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD J. Charles 16 110 6.8 1 K. Davis 5 11 2.2 1 A. Smith 1 -1 -1.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD T. Kelce 6 62 10.3 0 J. Charles 3 12 4.0 0 J. Maclin 3 40 13.3 0 C. Conley 2 56 28.0 0 A. Wilson 1 16 16.0 0 J. Avant 1 14 14.0 0 A. Sherman 1 6 6.0 0 K. Davis 1 0 0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK B. Grubbs 1 0 T. Kelce 1 0 D. Stephenson 1 0 L. Duvernay-Tardif 0 2 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD D. Johnson 13 0.5 0 0 R. Parker 12 0 0 0 T. Hali 10 2 0 0 J. Houston 10 0 0 0 A. Bailey 4 0.5 0 0 D. Poe 3 1.5 0 0 M. DeVito 2 1 0 0 T. Branch 2 0 1 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG C. Santos 2/2 2/2 8 51 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 D. Colquitt 5 262 52.4 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Thomas 1 26 26.0 0 J. Charles 2 48 24.0 0 A. Wilson 1 22 22.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J. Charles 2 12 6.0 0 A. Wilson 2 11 5.5 0

Minnesota Vikings PASSING C/A YDS TD INT T. Bridgewater 20/29 216 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD A. Peterson 28 128 4.5 0 M. Asiata 3 16 5.3 0 C. Johnson 1 -2 -2.0 0 T. Bridgewater 1 0 0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD K. Rudolph 7 94 13.4 0 M. Asiata 4 21 5.2 0 M. Wallace 4 54 13.5 0 C. Johnson 2 18 9.0 1 A. Peterson 2 8 4.0 1 R. Ellison 1 21 21.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK R. Ellison 1 0 M. Harris 1 1 P. Loadholt 1 0 J. Sullivan 0 2 A. Peterson 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD H. Smith 10 0 0 0 A. Sendejo 9 0 0 0 E. Kendricks 8 0 0 0 A. Barr 7 0.5 0 0 X. Rhodes 6 0 1 0 E. Griffen 4 0.5 0 0 S. Floyd 2 1 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG B. Walsh 3/3 2/2 11 59 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 J. Locke 5 211 42.2 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD C. Patterson 2 52 26.0 0 S. Diggs 1 25 25.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD M. Sherels 3 79 26.3 0

NOTES:
- You would think after getting busted against the run 4 times already in the drive, they might put more than 5 in the box. No?...ok I'll just run more.
- Holy cow is Charles good. I seal up the A gap with Kendricks squaring up the FB in the hole, and somehow he cuts off his FB, gets through my gap, breaks the SS tackle, and takes it 65 yards to the house.
- Finally got a decent looking TD off an endzone fade. Johnson had +2 on the DB, so I threw it high, with up and out aim on the ball, throwing with touch after waiting just a tick longer than the end of the drop...looked beautiful as Johnson went up and plucked it from the air, snapping his feet down in the endzone for a TD.
- Monster punt return off a punt which severely outkicked the coverage. With 3 min left in a tie game, I brought it down to their 31 yard line.
- This game looked about right. Solid defense on both sides. Tentative and inaccurate QB play by Smith. Game manager QB play by Bridgewater. Running games as the focus.
- Only complaints; Not enough running by KC (36 drop-backs, 22 rushes). Not enough RB2 carries **I'll adjust the Auto-Subs and see if they actually do anything...not touching the Fatigue anymore though.**.

[viking12344]

Thats Reid for you, he is pass happy even with a stud rb.

[sebennayx]

Quote: Originally Posted by viking12344

I gave these a try tonight...because I like to try everyones sliders and am halfway through week 1 game bucs vs titans. I always play this game with new sliders to see how Winston plays, I always take the titans.. I also like that you are a vikes fan because so am I (not that it means anything). So I don't know why but your sliders are the only set I have plugged in where Winston takes off running when there is trouble. I have played this game 6-7 times now and can count on 1 hand how many times winston took off from the pocket. He has run 5x in the first half so far, a couple for nice gains. I closed it down at halftime to finish tomorrow but so far 6-0 bucs.

Thanks man, I appreciate that! I look forward to your results -- if you want, feel free to use the Box Score table generator when the game's done.

http://dynasties.operationsports.com...id=1&sport=nfl

That QB rushing is a funny thing, I've only had Manning do that to me so far. He busted off 4 scrambles (for good yardage!) I think in the same drive late in the 4th QTR. Granted, I had Cover 2 Man Under called and didn't play contain (because...Manning), so there were wide open lanes to move. I think it's sporadic, and I think they come in bunches...but I haven't been able to put my finger on the cause yet.

What's your play-style like? Strengths? Weaknesses?

I've been getting pretty close to realistic stats so far; Vikings defense stomping out the running game of below-average RBs, while getting after the QB for a couple sacks. Offensively I'm able to run the ball, but the line really doesn't hold up well for anything more than a 3 step drop without additional protection called.

My biggest complaints so far with the sliders are as follows;
1. CPU RB breaking too many tackles.
2. My RB2 not coming in enough.

I didn't think Auto-Subs did anything in CFM, so I didn't even bother setting them...though now that McKinnon hasn't gotten any carries without me subbing him in, I'm rethinking that theory.

Anyway -- thanks again for giving them a go. Let me know how they work out and if it brought an enjoyable game!

Skol

[sebennayx]

New auto-subs implemented (will update OP):

POS | Out-In
QB | 0-2
HB | 92-98
WR | 45-65
FB/TE | 45-55
OL | 0-2
DT | 84-96
DE | 84-96
LB | 25-35
CB | 25-35
S | 25-35

Hopefully this introduces additional RB2 carries.

[gmiller]

Baltimore Ravens at San Francisco 49ers
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Baltimore Ravens ()	0	6	0	9	15
San Francisco 49ers ()	7	0	5	15	27

Team Stats Comparison
	BAL	SFO
Total Offense	313	353
Rushing Yards	67	152
Passing Yards	246	201
First Downs	13	16
Punt Return Yards	18	18
Kick Return Yards	40	15
Total Yards	371	386
Turnovers	1	0
3rd Down Converstion	4	11
4th Down Conversion	0	0
2-Point Conversion	0	1
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	100	100
Penalties	63	66
Posession Time	28:20	31:40

Baltimore Ravens PASSING C/A YDS TD INT J.Flacco 16 23 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD J.Forsett 22 55 2.5 0 J.Taliaferro 5 12 2.4 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD K.Aiken 5 54 10.8 0 J.Forsett 4 51 12.8 1 M.Brown 3 101 33.7 1 S.Smith Sr. 3 65 21.7 0 M.Williams 1 3 3.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK K.Osemele 2 0 R.Wagner 0 1 E.Monroe 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD C.Upshaw 15 0 0 0 D.Smith 13 1 0 0 K.Lewis 8 0 0 0 A.Brown 6 0 0 0 J.Smith 6 0 0 0 K.Arrington 5 0 0 0 E.Dumervil 5 0 0 0 T.Jernigan 4 1 0 0 B.Williams 4 0 0 0 W.Hill III 3 0 0 0 W.Davis 2 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG J.Tucker 1/1 0/2 3 49 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 S.Koch 5 217 43.4 3 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J.Ross 1 20 20 0 W.Davis 1 20 20 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J.Ross 2 18 9 0

San Francisco 49ers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT B.Gabbert 18 27 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD C.Hyde 31 113 3.6 1 B.Gabbert 3 31 10.3 1 J.Hayne 3 8 2.7 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD V.Davis 7 91 13 0 J.Boykin 5 53 10.6 0 C.Hyde 2 15 7.5 1 A.Boldin 2 26 13 0 T.Smith 1 11 11 0 D.Alexander 1 17 17 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK A.Boone 1 0 J.Staley 1 0 B.Thomas 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD N.Bowman 10 0 0 0 A.Lynch 8 1 0 0 C.Lemonier 7 1 0 0 E.Reid 6 0 1 0 D.Johnson 6 0 0 0 T.Brock 6 0 0 0 A.Bethea 6 0 0 0 S.Wright 5 1 0 0 K.Acker 3 0 0 0 I.Williams 3 0 0 0 Q.Dial 3 0 0 0 G.Hodges Jr. 3 0 0 0 G.Dorsey 2 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG P.Dawson 1/1 2/2 3 46 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 B.Fields 6 280 46.7 5 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T.Smith 1 15 0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T.Smith 2 18 9 0

Playing as the Ravens, I got my butt kicked. I used another slider set for the penalties as I've gotten pretty good numbers with them as shown. I also only use strategy plays.

I was pinned back at the 1 from a punt and got hit with a safety, something that has never happened. I missed a few extra point kicks due to the wind being 16 mph and I hit it too fast to compensate. Wouldn't have mattered much though.

Everything felt clean though; I am going to continue to use these and see how well they pan out for the rest of the season.

[sebennayx]

Quote: Originally Posted by gmiller

Playing as the Ravens, I got my butt kicked. I used another slider set for the penalties as I've gotten pretty good numbers with them as shown. I also only use strategy plays. I was pinned back at the 1 from a punt and got hit with a safety, something that has never happened. I missed a few extra point kicks due to the wind being 16 mph and I hit it too fast to compensate. Wouldn't have mattered much though. Everything felt clean though; I am going to continue to use these and see how well they pan out for the rest of the season.

I appreciate the feedback, thanks for testing! If you don't mind my asking, which penalty sliders? I like those yardage numbers and would be interested in reviewing eventually.

The stats look about right, aside from Gabbert...looks like a bunch of dump offs to Davis with maybe one or two decent chunks mixed in, is that about right?...probably his go-to on those 3rd downs?

Looks like it was a tight defensive game throughout, not too much of a buttkicking ...those games are the most fun IMO.

Thanks again, let me know next time you give it a go!

[gmiller]

I use Mike Lowe's penalty sliders as I feel they provide realistic stats.

Offsides: 80
False Start: 65
Holding: 56
Defensive Holding: 56
Face Mask: 56
Defensive Pass Interface: 59
Offensive Pass Interface: On
Kick Catch Interference: On
Illegal Block In The Back: 54
Intentional Grounding: On
Roughing Passer: 50 (-1)
Roughing Kicker: On
Running Into The Kicker: On

Things to note: The CPU will get false starts, but I do not. I usually just snap the ball so false starts don't happen. I will get called for offsides/encroachment pretty regularly.

Most calls are block in the back, face mask, and holding.

I've played about 4 games since the last one; I will post some stats later. I am having a blast with these though.