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Old 12-19-2016, 01:04 PM   #2489
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How do I do this is cfm with only 1 controller and a single team cfm.
You can do this with 1 controller.

Just click R3 to create a new character, select the team you're playing, and choose their default coach.

That sequence of choices will take you into that team's coach's view. From there, you just adjust the settings you want to change, from play books to depth charts and schemes.

Once you're done, you click R3 again and choose your actual team and coach. This will return you to your normal coaching view. Go into the game and play it as normal. All the changes you made for the opposing team will be in effect. There's no need to move a controller over to check.

After the game, click R3 again and select your opponent's coach's character. Go to "retire" that character. You'll return to your normal coaching screen for your team. The opposing coach will have an announcement that he retired, but he won't really retire, so everything goes back to as it was before you adjusted anything.

The only thing you have to remember to do is change the playbooks back to the default ones so the CPU won't be running a generic scheme the rest of the season.
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:53 PM   #2490
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Might be placebo, but I tinkered with penalty sliders last night in CFM ONLY and didn't like what I saw so I decided to revert back to default like the op, but now the game seems to be playing slightly broken. any input/opinions on if I broke it by doing this?
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:55 PM   #2491
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Re: JoshC1977's M17 Sliders

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Might be placebo, but I tinkered with penalty sliders last night in CFM ONLY and didn't like what I saw so I decided to revert back to default like the op, but now the game seems to be playing slightly broken. any input/opinions on if I broke it by doing this?
When tinkering...I usually start a game, exit out and then restart it to 'lock in' the changes...don't know if it really matters, but that is what I do...
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:34 PM   #2492
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Thanks for that. Just one thing once I retire the coach following my game do the changes stick or do I do that again if I play that team.


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You can do this with 1 controller.

Just click R3 to create a new character, select the team you're playing, and choose their default coach.

That sequence of choices will take you into that team's coach's view. From there, you just adjust the settings you want to change, from play books to depth charts and schemes.

Once you're done, you click R3 again and choose your actual team and coach. This will return you to your normal coaching view. Go into the game and play it as normal. All the changes you made for the opposing team will be in effect. There's no need to move a controller over to check.

After the game, click R3 again and select your opponent's coach's character. Go to "retire" that character. You'll return to your normal coaching screen for your team. The opposing coach will have an announcement that he retired, but he won't really retire, so everything goes back to as it was before you adjusted anything.

The only thing you have to remember to do is change the playbooks back to the default ones so the CPU won't be running a generic scheme the rest of the season.
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:49 PM   #2493
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Thanks for that. Just one thing once I retire the coach following my game do the changes stick or do I do that again if I play that team.
They will stick...but don't know what happens the following seasons.
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:44 AM   #2494
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Josh any idea what penalty sliders affect defensive reaction, tackling, and block shedding? My thoughts are facemask, RTP, and Offsides
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Josh any idea what penalty sliders affect defensive reaction, tackling, and block shedding? My thoughts are facemask, RTP, and Offsides
Facemask has a definite impact on all three. If you're looking to modestly improve all three without 'rocking the boat', I suggest setting facemask to 55 in the main menu and 51 in CFM.
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Coach Schemes

After more extensive testing on coach schemes, I have drawn the following conclusions:

- Just stay away from the balanced offensive scheme. The CPU will call the same plays over and over again....I think that this is the one that is most affected by the regular team playbooks not being as well-developed. I thought for a while that this was the run scheme until I had a couple of games where the CPU was just calling dives/4-verts the whole time.
- Schemes are more about formations/concepts used rather than run/pass ratio. Though, naturally, certain formations/concepts are more run-heavy or pass-heavy.
- You do not need to use generic playbooks....frankly, I recommend staying away from them as you lose some of a team's identity
- Most of the schemes really look to be mis-labeled. Here is my take on each one:

Balanced: Stay away!
Vertical: run-oriented offenses will use this...
Power Run: good for teams that run two back sets on occassion and short, controlled passing games...closer to West Coast.
West Coast: this one is really the balanced scheme...lots of formations/concepts used. Try playing against the Saints offense when they are set to this scheme...you really have to be thinking about mis-matches the whole time....very tough to stop.
Zone Run: This is your vertical scheme. Lots of shots, verts....basically, anything that has receivers running deep.
Spread: 90% of the time, teams will be in the gun or pistol

The following are my suggestions and what I will use. Feel free to change these around based on the above descriptions if you so desire.

Bears: Zone Run
Bengals: West Coast
Bills: Vertical
Broncos: West Coast
Browns: Vertical
Bucs: Vertical
Cardinals: West Coast
Chargers: Power Run
Chiefs: Spread
Colts: Zone Run
Cowboys: Vertical
Dolphins: Spread
Eagles: Spread
Falcons: Power Run
49ers: Spread
Giants: Spread
Jags: West Coast
Jets: Power Run
Lions: Power Run
Packers: Power Run
Panthers: Vertical
Patriots: West Coast
Raiders: Spread
Rams: Vertical
Ravens: Zone Run
Redskins: West Coast or Spread
Saints: West Coast
Seahawks: Vertical
Steelers: West Coast
Texans: Zone Run
Titans: Vertical
Vikings: Vertical

To implement these, you can either do a 32 team CFM or the following:
Take control of a team's coach within CFM (hit R3 on PS4 with the CFM menus); select that team's coach....do not create a custom coach. Go to his scheme menu and change the offensive scheme (do not alter the playbook). Then, go to the far right-hand screen in the CFM menus and retire the coach. The coach will remain, you will only get the little story ("He will be missed...blah blah blah") and the changes will stick and you can do this over and over. I suggest doing this at the start of a CFM and then saving it as a "base" CFM file.

This now complete....that wraps up the work I plan on doing for this game.
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