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Old 12-29-2016, 01:35 PM   #2569
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You can't touch the CFM injury slider for sure (anything above 51 will turn everyone's injury list into a MASH unit....it's crazy). 55/55 Fatigue and 55/50 Injury work fairly well with 50 thresh if you're dying for a bit more subbing.
I did 55/50 injury, and still got 10 injuries. followed your suggestions.

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I did 55/50 injury, and still got 10 injuries. followed your suggestions.
You set the main menu injury to 55, CFM to 50...and still got that? Can you.humor me and double check?
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Old 12-29-2016, 03:24 PM   #2571
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You set the main menu injury to 55, CFM to 50...and still got that? Can you.humor me and double check?
yes i did

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Old 12-29-2016, 04:34 PM   #2572
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did u adjust injury slider too?? i do believe you called that the aggression slider. what i have been playing with....having it at 55....i guess i haven't seen what you saw...
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So let me ask you, what if you tried to go 5 to ten points from default in either direction, (50 to 55-60 or 50 to 45-40). Ive used those values in previous iterations of madden (along with 90-95) and it seemed to work well....it also seemed like it smoothed out some of the skittishness in the framerate.....
(Answering both posts together)

I haven't yet touched 100 thresh with other adjustments (I have a good feel for what the injury/fatigue settings will do)....I first wanted to isolate the thresh and see what it did well and didn't do well.

I generally prefer moderate changes versus extremes; this year even moreso....FWIW, I did not care for 55 thresh (I played around a bit with it last night...way too much ease on outside runs). But...sometimes, those 0 or 100 values can so fundamentally change something within the game that it is worth looking at....even if it is simply to confirm/validate one's current approach.

The number 1 thing that is missing in Madden to me is a true pocket collapse. The DEs/OLBs do a good job of collapsing the edge, but there is virtually no "push" in the interior line. Even if you have a great O-line, a DT is going to push you back some...you just don't see it on Madden, even in a total mis-match. What caught my eye last night on 100 thresh was that I actually saw a couple of plays where this DID occur (first time I can remember in this game). It's that glimmer of hope that maybe it CAN happen....but what do we need to do to induce that regularly?

Here's where I stand right now...I personally don't think anything is "wrong" with the OP. Coverage is solid for both sides, run defense is solid for both sides, no Robo QB, some penalties, OK subbing. Play style is going to factor into the equation for sure...if you dink/dunk all the time, you're going to have a high completion %...as you should. If you attack deep all the time, you're going to throw more picks....as you should. I can't change how people play the game....all I can tell you is that I feel this setup keeps the gameplay engine as balanced as possible.

This year's Madden is all about what you are willing to sacrifice. Do you sacrifice penalties? Do you sacrifice fatigue? Do you sacrifice XP gains? Do you sacrifice ratings-based play (e.g. nullifying accel with a high thresh)? I've taken the approach of making small sacrifices across the board for the sake of balance....but this isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea.

That said...I am a total tinkerer. I've tried things most people would never bother trying...my rule number 1 is to assume everything has an effect on everything until you can rule it out. As such, I'm more than willing to explore something (aside from changing gameplay sliders) if it could result in a dramatic improvement.
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Hey Josh. Long time listener first time caller here. You and KingV2k3 are the best! So, after all you've been through with this years game, how do you feel the game plays now vs when you developed your first set of sliders before all of the patches? There's this whole movement to go back to the ootb version and tweak the sliders to make it work. I didn't get the game until late September and started using your sliders immediately. I never even tried the default ootb settings.
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Hey Josh. Long time listener first time caller here. You and KingV2k3 are the best! So, after all you've been through with this years game, how do you feel the game plays now vs when you developed your first set of sliders before all of the patches? There's this whole movement to go back to the ootb version and tweak the sliders to make it work. I didn't get the game until late September and started using your sliders immediately. I never even tried the default ootb settings.
I have the digital version of the game, so have not played the true ootb version (i.e. no patches/tuners). I have seen streams of it...meh...not impressed....wouldn't pay for a disc version of the game just to use it.

I truly think the patched version of the game plays a solid game of football with this set.
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I'm happy with it too. Well, except for the punting issues. I have two franchises going. One with the default rosters and one with the week 15 roster update. So far I can't see any difference in the game play. Your still using the default rosters correct?
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That said...I am a total tinkerer. I've tried things most people would never bother trying...my rule number 1 is to assume everything has an effect on everything until you can rule it out. As such, I'm more than willing to explore something (aside from changing gameplay sliders) if it could result in a dramatic improvement.
Lol yeah. I was playing a game a few minutes ago and at one point I began thinking to myself that if Madden ever did put out a perfect game, you would probobly get bored leave.....
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