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Old 01-04-2017, 10:53 PM   #2649
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And are you playing Strafe ON, along with the other two ON?
Yes, I have the setup recommended a few pages back and decided to try Auto Strafe ON as Josh suggested. It for sure made the running game better....defenders don't seem to be on the runner immediately after hand off. I am only one game in so a small sample size but was noticeable to me immediately. Sorry, I don't do vids. Going to play a few more opponents and see what kind of variety I get.
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Auto Strafe "on" definitely aided the running game. All these adjustments make the game feel and look much better than anything I have seen so far.
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Auto strafe AKA the "read steps" slider
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Auto strafe AKA the "read steps" slider
Has definitely brought TFL stats back to earth but still allows elite run stoppers and pash rushers to standout
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:20 PM   #2653
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The best news is it did not take away from the passing game improvements already mentioned. Maybe helped them in a way as the DBs seem way more aggressive to mix it up and swat the ball away. So far it looks pretty good to me. Like I said, need to play more games to make sure that there is variety vs different opponents. I am cautiously optimistic!
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The best news is it did not take away from the passing game improvements already mentioned. Maybe helped them in a way as the DBs seem way more aggressive to mix it up and swat the ball away. So far it looks pretty good to me. Like I said, need to play more games to make sure that there is variety vs different opponents. I am cautiously optimistic!
Right on. Im gonna head back in and give it a longer look too....
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I second this 1000000%
maybe that's why i haven't had much issue with running game....i didn't even notice Josh had this set to off in the OP and have had it on this whole time lol

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Old 01-05-2017, 02:17 AM   #2656
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OK....hate to do it, but got to kill the autostrafe experiment. Yup, it helps the run game (frankly by skewing pursuit angles...which I don't love). But, it's funny that pretty much every godforsaken pass is dead on the money when I have it on...turn it back off, and those off-target throws start coming back. Schnaidt's inadvertent gaffe on having it on offers further support because that was the EXACT issue he was having with the AM/AP setup...when I (and others) were not. This is a total deal-breaker for me right there....just too high of a cost.

I also now know that ballhawk is a culprit (thankfully I happened to remember its impact on improving pursuit and verified it this evening) but it could also be that the combo of that and the high injury slider are causing issues.

I like that people are jumping in and offering feedback, I want to harness that...

I'd like to suggest two possible approaches (keeping the main menu at AP for both):
  1. Turn off all assists and keep the MM injury slider at 50.
  2. Keep ballhawk and heatseeker on but drop the MM injury slider back to 10.
I'd really like some feedback on both (the more people we have looking at things, the faster this gets finished). Remember, not stats, but observations on what you see (good and bad), any wonky animations that occur (warping and suction). If you can post vids, that is even better. However you do it, please be specific about what you're testing. I'm convinced now that the straight AP setup is the way to go....I could be quite happy with the original suggestion (of 50 injury and BH and HS on), but let's see if we can fine-tune things a bit more.
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