JoshC1977's M17 Sliders

[greed8819]

Just played a game with OP setup but changed the difficulty to AM in CFM (my run game is a little to strong on AP) and I liked the results. I played Carson Palmer and saw a variety of off target throws and some great passes as well. The CPU D played the run a little better too.... small sample size but worth another game or two to see the results.

[The Chef]

My recent game with Seattle, was extremely surprised to win after losing to Philly and Jacksonville at home to start the season. I tried my best to keep the ball away from Seattle and got fortunate enough to force 3 Russell Wilson picks, one of which was a pick 6 from Gerald Hodges. My running game continues to **** the bed and with Hyde being a free agent after the season he won't be back, can't stand having a HB that can't break a long TD and his 88 speed shows when he is actually able to get to the second level. Anyways, not a bad game for sure...

Seattle Seahawks at San Francisco 49ers
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Seattle Seahawks (1-1)	10	9	0	7	26
San Francisco 49ers (0-2)	14	0	15	3	32

Team Stats Comparison
	SEA	SFO
Total Offense	401	364
Rushing Yards	137	114
Passing Yards	264	250
First Downs	18	19
Punt Return Yards	32	10
Kick Return Yards	0	49
Total Yards	433	423
Turnovers	3	1
3rd Down Converstion	6/14	8/15
4th Down Conversion	0/0	0/0
2-Point Conversion	0/0	1/1
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/2	2/0
Penalties	1-5	2-15
Posession Time	23:59	36:01

Seattle Seahawks PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Russell Wilson 24/39 295 2 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Thomas Rawls 20 132 6.6 0 Russell Wilson 2 5 2.5 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Jimmy Graham 5 53 10.6 0 Tyler Lockett 5 114 22.8 2 Thomas Rawls 5 27 5.4 0 Doug Baldwin 3 33 11.0 0 Jermaine Kearse 3 44 14.6 0 Zac Thorpe 2 17 8.5 0 CJ Prosise 1 7 7.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Mark Glowinski 0 2 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Earl Thomas 14 0.0 1 0 Kam Chancellor 13 0.0 0 0 KJ Wright 9 0.0 0 0 Aaron Colvin 9 0.0 0 0 Richard Sherman 9 0.0 0 0 Frank Clark 9 0.0 0 0 Bobby Wagner 8 0.0 0 0 Jarran Reed 7 1.0 0 0 Desahwn Shead 5 0.0 0 0 Matthew Ioannidis 5 0.0 0 0 Michael Bennett 3 0.0 0 0 Doug Middleton 2 0.0 0 0 Sean Richardson 1 0.0 0 0 Jeremy Lane 1 0.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Graham Gano 4/4 2/2 14 55 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Jon Ryan 3 148 49.3 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Tyler Lockett 3 32 10.6 0

San Francisco 49ers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Brody Ackerman 20/30 258 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Carlos Hyde 27 81 3.0 0 Brody Ackerman 5 20 4.0 0 Segwick Ohalete 4 10 2.5 0 Mike Davis 3 0 0.0 1 Nikita Whitlock 1 3 3.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Taylor Gabriel 4 32 8.0 0 Jeremy Kerley 4 59 14.7 0 Torrey Smith 3 73 24.3 1 Vance McDonald 3 38 12.6 0 Carlos Hyde 2 28 14.0 0 Garrett Celek 2 14 7.0 1 Blake Bell 1 10 10.0 0 Segwick Ohalete 1 4 4.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Antoine Brent 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Gerald Hodges 9 2.0 1 1 Navorro Bowman 9 0.0 0 0 Jaquiski Tartt 7 0.0 0 0 Deshawn Polite 7 0.0 0 0 Eric Reid 7 0.0 1 0 Tramaine Brock 6 0.0 1 0 Arik Armstead 5 1.0 0 0 Aaron Lynch 5 0.0 0 0 Ryan Carrethers 3 0.0 0 0 Deforest Buckner 3 0.5 0 0 Shaquil Barrett 2 0.5 0 0 Jimmie Ward 2 0.0 0 0 Rodnell Leary 1 0.0 0 0 Tank Carradine 1 0.0 0 0 Dontae Johnson 1 0.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Cody Parkey 1/1 3/3 6 40 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Bradley Pinion 5 215 43.0 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Segwick Ohalete 1 28 28.0 0 Taylor Gabriel 1 21 21.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Segwick Ohalete 1 10 10.0 0

[roadman]

A very small sample size playing with current rosters.

Rodgers, 75% and 5 TD's passes, Bortles 50% with 3 TD passes. Both QB's had 1 int. Bortles had a few throws OUB because of pressure from the blitz. The other throws were pass break ups with one or two underthrows.

The Packers had 91 yds rushing with 3 different backs and the Jags had 40 yds rushing. I noticed the second half of the game was much better for the Packers to run a lot and control the clock vs the second half. Montgomery had less than 10 yds rushing in the 1st half and 70 yds in the second half.

The only "comeback" I noticed with the CPU was at the end of the first half. The Jags tied it up with 51 seconds left before the half and in 4 pass plays, me(the Packers) added 7 more and got the ball back at half.

The defensive line substituted well and Lacy came in for a few plays.

Penalties, there were 3 called the entire game.

If penalties and substituting the RB in and out are the only minor issues I have, this set is the golden standard.

If I want NFL football like stats for everything in a video game, I'll rewind the Packers season and watch it play out again.

[gman2774]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

A very small sample size playing with current rosters. Rodgers, 75% and 5 TD's passes, Bortles 50% with 3 TD passes. Both QB's had 1 int. Bortles had a few throws OUB because of pressure from the blitz. The other throws were pass break ups with one or two underthrows. The Packers had 91 yds rushing with 3 different backs and the Jags had 40 yds rushing. I noticed the second half of the game was much better for the Packers to run a lot and control the clock vs the second half. Montgomery had less than 10 yds rushing in the 1st half and 70 yds in the second half. The only "comeback" I noticed with the CPU was at the end of the first half. The Jags tied it up with 51 seconds left before the half and in 4 pass plays, me(the Packers) added 7 more and got the ball back at half. The defensive line substituted well and Lacy came in for a few plays. Penalties, there were 3 called the entire game. If penalties and substituting the RB in and out are the only minor issues I have, this set is the golden standard. If I want NFL football like stats for everything in a video game, I'll rewind the Packers season and watch it play out again.

Roadman--Assuming you've played with the preseason rosters as well, do you notice any difference between those and the updated rosters? Relative to gameplay?

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by gcoons22

Roadman--Assuming you've played with the preseason rosters as well, do you notice any difference between those and the updated rosters? Relative to gameplay?

I played with the updated rosters.

I think Tdawg has played with both and he doesn't notice a difference, but I'll let him chime in case my memory is out of whack.

[Elphalpha]

Have you ever thought about turning up speed threshold and seeing if that effects anything? The biggest problem I have is when the AI plays press on a go/streak route and gets beat deep by my WR. This wouldn't happen as much if the threshold was edited, but I know that messes everything up. I would love to try turning it up to 75-90.

I'm just curious since that would really clean up some of the gameplay, but who knows lol

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Elphalpha

Have you ever thought about turning up speed threshold and seeing if that effects anything? The biggest problem I have is when the AI plays press on a go/streak route and gets beat deep by my WR. This wouldn't happen as much if the threshold was edited, but I know that messes everything up. I would love to try turning it up to 75-90. I'm just curious since that would really clean up some of the gameplay, but who knows lol

Here's your answer from Josh himself from post #2561, as this topic has already played out.

So...I decided to isolate threshold without making other changes...trying to tease-out what it does and does not do. It's a mixed bag...results from OP with 100 thresh in MM/CFM. But, it did play a bit better than I had expected.

The good: DB agility is much improved due to better footplanting but it's almost too precise. A wee bit more of a true push by the d-line at times...but not consistent (which is unfortunate...if it had been, I might've looked at it further). Coverage distance wasn't bad overall...a little looser than I'd expect.

The bad: defender reactions (i.e. accel) were really nerfed. I even saw occasions where a DT would not even start to get out of his stance until the O-line had taken a couple of steps. Saw some jogging in coverage as well and defenders were taking longer than normal to react to things.

So basically...you're trading away accel for agility (essentially the opposite of 0 thresh which is all about the accel). As king said to me last night via PM on another Madden-related topic, "Pick your poison". You can make it work with other adjustments...but an ultra-high thresh isn't a road I will likely go down at this juncture.

Good stuff! Always enjoy trying out different things.

[The Chef]

Played another game, finally lost again which was nice to see. I worry that my running game is prone to 1-2 big gains per game which is inflating my numbers at times and scores but I'm extremely hesitant to tweak anything for fear it will mess up other areas of the game. Having said that Carlos Hyde has been terrible all season minus this week so what do I know.

San Francisco 49ers at Houston Texans
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
San Francisco 49ers (3-2)	7	14	3	3	27
Houston Texans (2-3)	7	7	3	17	34

Team Stats Comparison
	SFO	HOU
Total Offense	262	375
Rushing Yards	149	57
Passing Yards	113	318
First Downs	9	12
Punt Return Yards	49	29
Kick Return Yards	50	41
Total Yards	361	445
Turnovers	1	1
3rd Down Converstion	5	4
4th Down Conversion	0	0
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/0	2/0
Penalties	1-5	1-5
Posession Time	27:23	24:37

San Francisco 49ers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Brody Ackerman 13/26 173 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Carlos Hyde 16 84 5.3 1 Mike Davis 3 52 17.3 1 Segwick Ohalete 7 13 1.9 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Kendall Wright 4 41 10.3 0 Taylor Gabriel 3 56 18.7 0 Vance McDonald 2 17 8.5 0 Carlos Hyde 2 17 8.5 0 Torrey Smith 1 23 23.0 1 Segwick Ohalete 1 19 19.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Trent Brown 3 Joshua Garnett 1 Joe Staley 1 Ryan Jensen 1 Antoine Brent 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Jaquiski Tartt 12 1.0 0 0 Gerald Hodges 9 1.0 0 0 Deshawn Polite 7 0.0 1 0 Eric Reid 6 0.5 0 0 Ryan Carrethers 6 0.0 0 0 Shaquil Barrett 5 0.5 0 0 Aaron Lynch 4 2.0 0 0 Deforest Buckner 4 0.0 0 0 Dontae Johnson 3 0.0 0 0 Arik Armstead 3 0.0 0 0 Tramaine Brock 3 0.0 0 0 Rodnell Leary 3 0.0 0 0 Jimmie Ward 2 0.0 0 0 Antoine Bethea 1 0.0 0 0 Richard Pitts 1 0.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Cody Parkey 2/2 3/3 9 56 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Bradley Pinion 8 391 48.9 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Taylor Gabriel 1 28 28.0 0 Segwick Ohalete 1 22 22.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Segwick Ohalete 6 49 8.2 0

Houston Texans PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Brock Osweiler 22/31 364 4 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Alfred Blue 22 55 2.5 0 Jay Prosch 1 2 2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Jaelen Strong 9 208 23.1 4 Will Fuller 5 93 18.6 0 CJ Fiedorowicz 3 22 7.3 0 Braxton Miller 3 33 11.0 0 Jordan Taylor 1 3 3.0 0 Gavin Escobar 1 5 5.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Duane Brown 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Jadeveon Clowney 11 2.5 0 0 Quinton Demps 10 0.0 0 0 Benardrick McKinney 9 0.0 1 0 JJ Watt 7 3.0 0 0 John Simon 7 2.0 0 0 Johnathan Joseph 7 0.0 0 0 Andre Hal 6 0.0 0 0 AJ Bouye 5 0.0 0 0 Whitney Mercilus 4 1.0 0 0 Sio Moore 4 0.0 0 0 John Jenkins 3 0.5 0 0 Kevin Johnson 2 0.0 0 0 Corey Moore 1 0.0 0 0 Brennan Scarlett 1 0.0 0 0 AJ Thibodeaux 1 0.0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Dan Carpenter 2/2 4/4 10 52 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Jeff Locke 8 336 42.0 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Akeem Hunt 1 21 21.0 0 Will Fuller 1 20 20.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Akeem Hunt 4 29 7.3 0

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