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Old 08-28-2016, 02:08 PM   #185
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After a full 2-14 seasons (with the Cowboys) I cannot understand how anyone is even getting a playable game with these sliders. Am I playing a different game or something? The CPU advantage is so massive that the games are basically unwinnable most of the time. I actually had to tune last year's All Madden sliders to make it harder, but I was still winning everything and couldn't get the game to a point where it was both fair and challenging.

I posted some bullet points about some of the issues that I'm having, but I'll go into more detail:

Starting with QB ACC. I do not understand the justification with having CPU ACC equal to the player. The CPU gets a significant ratings boost and can "see" every receiver on the field simultaneously. 15 is a good number for the player, but at 15 the CPU is still getting next to no errant throws. It needs to be significantly lower for the CPU.

Catching: CPU players catch virtually everything, regardless of ratings or coverage. HUM receivers will regularly have the ball just bounce off their hands, and are almost guaranteed to drop the ball if there is any contact made.

Pass Blocking: The Cowboys have a great OLine, And I'm getting no time. Zack Martin and Tyron Smith should not be regularly getting thrown around immediately after the snap by 70-rated defenders. I have to rush 7 if I want any pass rush whatsoever, and even then there's very little.

Run Blocking: HUM seems OK. I've had some success, but not as much as I probably should with the Cowboys Oline. Blockers are idiots, though, and basically ignore defenders right in front of them and there's no downfield blocking. I get no blocking at the second-level. CPU run blocking is absurd. Holes the width of the hashes on every inside running play, WRs block perfectly out outside runs, and great blocking down field. Once one of my players is blocked, he's effective eliminated from play because there is no block-shedding.

Pass Coverage: What coverage? Cowboys secondary is trash, but in 16 games I could probably count the number of passes broken up by my players on one hand. I'm lucky if there's a defender within even 5 yards of the CPU receiver. Only incompletions come from the rare errant CPU pass, a ball thrown away, or when the QB is hit while throwing. CPU coverage is basically perfect. Occasionally I'll have an open check-down, but for the most part I'm going through my progression and seeing nothing but every receiver being completely blanketed by at least one guy. Completions are basically on ultra-safe, low-reward throws, or by pure chance.

Interceptions. Can't even tell for HUM, because defenders can never make a play on the ball. I had one all season. Between perfect coverage and the abundance of arrant HUM throws, CPU gets tons of interceptions. The rate is probably accurate, though.

Fumbles. Have not seen one CPU fumble. I've had a few normal fumbles, but Romo fumbles literally every time he gets his while throwing. I don't think it has even once been called an incompletion.

Tackling. Seems alright. CPU breaks more, but not too many. Human has very few.

I think the first goal of any All-Madden slider set should be to eliminate the CPU ratings advantage by lowering every slider a proportionate amount relative to HUM, and then tune for realism from there. As it is, ratings don't matter, and there's no realism or fair challenge.


Sorry I quit reading half way. I'll try to read later.

You see the thing about slider sets are they are tuned to the one who makes them to an extent. So everyone will get different games depending on skill level.

I'm still working on things but, it sounds like you may need to either come up with your own set based on skill level or drop down to All Pro.

I personally am not having the extreme issues you are.

Every area you mention can be helped by adjusting sliders yourself. If you think the CPU need less accuracy then lower.

You also are in error by directly comparing user accuracy to user. The problem is the CPU has 15 pass block. The user has 45. So you should be getting pressure

Unless you just send 4 every time.

Again if the CPU WR catches everything then lower CPU catch.

That's the great thing. You can make these changes yourself. I mean you seem to have it all figured out so you really don't need any of my help.


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Old 08-28-2016, 02:53 PM   #186
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I'm sure most have this figured out but, if you want an even slider set try All Pro.

As soon as you choose all madden you are doing it because you need the CPU to have a slight advantage because if they didn't you would win every game.

We have an play calling and intellectual advantage so the CPU has to have a little ratings advantage to make it fair.

So if you feel the CPU has a slight advantage in an All Madden slider set you are right. Lol that's the point of All Madden


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Old 08-28-2016, 02:58 PM   #187
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Maybe this isn't the set for you because I have seen literally 0 of the things you said.


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Maybe try an all pro set

I havent seen any of these issues with this set or just playing madden on default in general. im lost for ideas to help you because im seeing a totally different game

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All Pro is a joke. I can't lose without actually trying to. I've played Madden on All Madden difficulty for like 18 years, and have dominated every year. More than anything, the problem is with the game's difficulty design moreso than it is with the sliders; All Madden shouldn't give AI a ratings boost.
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Old 08-28-2016, 03:00 PM   #188
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Just used these sliders for the first time and got some great gameplay. I was the Bills, lost 16-14 to Miami in a defensive battle. Being 0-8 on 3rd down really put me in a hole.

I struggled to run the ball but I should have called better plays...knowing your playbook and using a wide variety of sets is going to be crucial with this set. I was efficient passing, but one random errant throw from Tyrod Taylor was picked off...stopping the CPU passing wasn't as hard as I anticipated. I got 4 sacks and felt the o-line play was balanced on both sides.

Just a couple questions -- is anyone else struggling to get user picks on defense? And are fumbles happening too often?
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Old 08-28-2016, 03:04 PM   #189
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Hey Charter have you seen Mrhurriicane's latest video where he talks about your sliders? He's using them again this year.
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Old 08-28-2016, 03:44 PM   #190
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I wish I had means of streaming so I could actually demonstrate.



All Pro is a joke. I can't lose without actually trying to. I've played Madden on All Madden difficulty for like 18 years, and have dominated every year. More than anything, the problem is with the game's difficulty design moreso than it is with the sliders; All Madden shouldn't give AI a ratings boost.
Guess you are just too good for Madden...........................

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I wish I had means of streaming so I could actually demonstrate.







All Pro is a joke. I can't lose without actually trying to. I've played Madden on All Madden difficulty for like 18 years, and have dominated every year. More than anything, the problem is with the game's difficulty design moreso than it is with the sliders; All Madden shouldn't give AI a ratings boost.


Have you tried All Pro this year? It's actually pretty tough this year. Also if you have played all Madden for 18 years you should know it always gives the CPU an advantage.

If it didn't then what would be the point of playing all madden? What would make it more difficult than All Pro?

Anyway. The game is challenging this year. You can't play this years game like Madden in the past.
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Old 08-28-2016, 04:09 PM   #192
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Hey Charter have you seen Mrhurriicane's latest video where he talks about your sliders? He's using them again this year.


Not yet. He told me one was coming. I'll have to check it out
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