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Old 12-05-2016, 01:07 AM   #625
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Started up a Atlanta chise just to get a feel for playing with a non fantasy draft and a team with a much worse defense than my 49ers. Here's the first 2 games.

Game 1:
Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Atlanta Falcons
Sep 1, 20161ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (0-0)700714
Atlanta Falcons (0-0)0615728
Team Stats Comparison
TAMATL
Total Offense296472
Rushing Yards131185
Passing Yards165287
First Downs1618
Punt Return Yards2611
Kick Return Yards17782
Total Yards499565
Turnovers12
3rd Down Converstion7-185-12
4th Down Conversion2-20-0
2-Point Conversion0-01-1
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals2/02/2
Penalties4-287-70
Posession Time20:2315:37
Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORINGTAMATL
2:25(TAM) A.Cross 1yd TD Run70
SECOND QUARTER SCORINGTAMATL
8:04(ATL) M.Bryant 17yd FG73
0:18(ATL) M.Bryant 31yd FG76
THIRD QUARTER SCORINGTAMATL
6:25(ATL) D.Freeman 2yd TD Run713
0:26(ATL) T.Coleman 46yd TD Run721
FOURTH QUARTER SCORINGTAMATL
6:54(TAM) R.Randle 9yd TD Catch1421
4:56(ATL) J.Jones 1yd TD Catch1428
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Jameis Winston24-3319611
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
Doug Martin311223.90
Jacquizz Rodgers3620
Jameis Winston1220
Alan Cross1111
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
Doug Martin73550
Rueben Randle52551
Mike Evans44711.80
Cameron Brate24120.50
Adam Humphries21680
Jacquizz Rodgers1110
Brandon Myers1440
Marques Colston130300
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
Kwon Alexander9000
Lavonte David70.500
Vernon Hargraves III7000
Jude Adjei-Barimah6000
Clinton McDonald5000
Bradley McDougald4000
Brent Grimes4000
Robert Ayers Jr.3100
William Gholston20.500
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
Roberto Aguayo0-22-22NA
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
Bryan Anger28743.50
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Josh Huff390300
Adam Humphries387290
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Josh Huff226130
Atlanta Falcons
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Matt Ryan23-3529910
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
DeVonta Freeman191387.31
Tevin Coleman351171
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
Julio Jones910611.81
Jacob Tamme54080
Taylor Gabriel45714.30
Mohamed Sanu Sr.2136.50
DeVonta Freeman128280
Austin Hooper110100
Tommylee Lewis145450
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
Desmond Trufant10010
Riccardo Allen9000
Vic Beasley Jr.9100
Jalen Collins9000
A.J. Hawk8000
Grady Jerrett7100
Courtney Upshaw10.500
Joe Vallano10.500
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
Matt Bryant2/32/2832
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
Matt Bosher317257.31
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Taylor Gabriel38227.30
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Shane Wynn111110
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Ok so after winning game 1 I just can't even type how Oakland managed to seal this one up against me so here just watch...



Game 2:
Atlanta Falcons at Oakland Raiders
Sep 1, 20161ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
Atlanta Falcons (1-0)7103626
Oakland Raiders (0-1)21701745
Team Stats Comparison
ATLOAK
Total Offense431361
Rushing Yards11494
Passing Yards317267
First Downs1516
Punt Return Yards013
Kick Return Yards8359
Total Yards514433
Turnovers20
3rd Down Converstion3-109-16
4th Down Conversion0-20-0
2-Point Conversion0-10-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals2/25/1
Penalties2-152-20
Posession Time16:4819:12
Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORINGATLOAK
6:03(OAK) M.Rivera 1yd TD Catch07
3:14(OAK) T.Jones 4yd TD Catch014
3:03(ATL) J.Jones 75yd TD Catch714
0:40(OAK) T.Jones 2yd TD Run721
SECOND QUARTER SCORINGATLOAK
7:34(ATL) J.Jones 19yd TD Catch1421
5:08(ATL) M.Bryant 28yd FG1721
0:23(OAK) T.Jones 3yd TD Run1728
THIRD QUARTER SCORINGATLOAK
6:15(ATL) M.Bryant 21yd FG2028
FOURTH QUARTER SCORINGATLOAK
8:21(OAK) S.Janikowski 38yd FG2031
6:02(ATL) T.Coleman 1yd TD Run2631
4:24(OAK) M.Crabtree 11yd TD Catch2638
2:32(OAK) M.Watson Picked Up Offensive Fumble for 11yd TD2645
Atlanta Falcons
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Matt Ryan21-3137021
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
DeVonta Freeman171076.30
Tevin Coleman471.81
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
Julio Jones718526.42
Jacob Tamme46716.80
Taylor Gabriel330100
Mohamed Sanu Sr.21680
Tommylee Lewis22311.50
Tevin Coleman113130
DeVonta Freeman124240
Austin Hooper112120
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
Riccardo Allen11000
Deion Jones (User)9000
Keanu Neal9000
Adrian Clayborn80.500
Grady Jerrett7000
A.J. Hawk6000
Robert Alford5000
Brooks Reed41.500
Ra'Shede Hageman10.500
Tyson Jackson10.500
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
Matt Bryant2/32/2828
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
Matt Bosher242210
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Taylor Gabriel48320.80
Oakland Raiders
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Derek Carr21-3028730
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
Taiwan Jones31802.62
Derek Carr4143.50
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
Clive Walford69315.50
Seth Roberts46917.30
Michael Crabtree44511.31
Amari Cooper366220
Taiwan Jones3144.71
Mychal Rivera1001
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
Aldon Smith10000
Reggie Nelson10000
Bruce Irvin7200
Khalil Mack7400
Jhad Ward7100
Stacy McGee4100
Perry Riley Jr.2010
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
Sebastian Janikowski1/26/6939
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
Marquette King415438.50
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Johnny Holton35919.70
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Taiwan Jones113130
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Old 12-05-2016, 04:42 AM   #626
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Re: M17 Custom CPU PBs & Default All-Pro(DSkins81)

Hey Skins, Tyler, and Cable... So you guys mind taking a quick peek at some of my box scores (specifically the 49ers ones) and see if you think I'm getting a good number of total plays a game? Or if you think I might should bump up to 10 minutes a game.

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Hey Skins, Tyler, and Cable... So you guys mind taking a quick peek at some of my box scores (specifically the 49ers ones) and see if you think I'm getting a good number of total plays a game? Or if you think I might should bump up to 10 minutes a game.

Thanks,
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For some reason your stats dont show on tapatalk. Thats usually what i use to follow. Ill check them out on the cpu later today but for reference of what im seeing ill post this..

I was on 12 min 13 sec run off and i would hit 120 but the games felt long and often lead to high scores and elivated stats for both sides. Not all the time but higher than i liked.

I dropped to 10 min 20 sec. And i counted around 103 - 110 in my testing phase. Scores are right on point and so are stats. Im really not worried about play count if i can hit that.

The nfl average is around 64 per team per game but im not sure that translates well to madden to hit that magic 120 for the above reasons. Im not sure your play count but id shoot for 105 to 110 in play count.

Which is passing attemps + rushing attemps+ sacks. Dont count special team plays. But if you do on 10 min 20sec your probably close to 120 w st plays but thats not an official count.

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Test results 10min/20sec

I played this game exactly how ive played the others so nothing will be in favor of ootb or anything like that.


Right off the bat the kicking meter is faster and not a guarantee hit every time.


1st drive of the game, the bengals marched down the field. Daulton had more movement in the pocket and better awareness.

I can already tell the difference in ai play.

I can tell the tackling is better and the cpu angles are better.

Dallas 1st drive ended in a fg. Running definitely felt tougher and coverage was tighter.

End of 1st qt. 2 long drives by both offenses 7-3 bengals

Bengals return it to the 45 and make swiss cheese outta dallas d. But we make a stand at the two . They come away with a fg

10- 3 bengals

Dallas drives down the field still hard to find running room. Romo leads them to the 1. Bengals hold. Dal fg. 10-6

Bengals ball under 2 min to half.

Bengals drive down w ease td

Bengals 17-6 halftime dallas to receive

Dallas fumble on the return, bengals recover. Booth review, overturned

Dallas ball . Shew

Dallas converts on 4th and 1 at ben 46, drive continues

Bengals d holds again as romo gets erratic in the redzone. Dal fg

Ben 17- 9

We need a stop.

Dal holds in redzone end of 3rd, 2 long drives again.

Ben 20-9

Romo is shaken 2 inaccurate passes in a row. 3 and out.

Dal finally holds. 1 1st down and punt. Dallas ball. 7 min left

3 and out..romo playing terrible in the clutch, wasting chances

Bengals 3 and out. Romo lets go

Romo converts 1 4th down but cant get 2. Bengals take over

Running out the clock 2 min warning. Benard 25 yrd run to seal it. Made some nice moves

Bengals hit fg 23-9

Prescott in for garbage time. Int thats it.

Bengals win 23-9 . Man the gameplay is great ,challenge is great, ai it great. Qb acc was great. There isnt one slider guy that can tell me the patched version is better or that the positives out way the negatives. Its just not the case. Its night and how how much better this is. Im just at a loss why people ignore it or go against it. Lol their loss. And for all those slider guys thats say you need like 5 seasons of play to make that judgement try what i did, switch right from a patched version to unpatched ,exact settings and see. I dont need 5 season to evaluate sliders or gameplay. Lol

Here are the stats.


Look at romos acc and my rushing stats. Its just amazing how much better it is









Sorry about the long post, just having fun.

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I believe some, so called "slider gurus" don't even play Madden, but that's beside the point.

So even All-Madden plays better w/ the OOTB version.
I don't know how guys can keep playing the updated version, mainly due to the QBA on the user side being so OP'd.

Bottom line is we are having some of the most true to ratings and gameplay that we've ever seen in Madden, by going ootb.
If others want to argue that the updated version is better, oh well,

We know the differences and have plenty of game data, videos posted, etc. That back up our argument.
They don't have anything to show but opinions and theories, of which don't hold much water
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No worries. Going with the QB workaround instead. Thanks!

Finally starting my CFM! Too bad it wasn't until December 4th, oh well. Just glad I finally have the game playing well.

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Will post all box scores here and will stream every game I play for anyone who wants to see what getting the full potential out of the OOTB version looks like.

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In all your opinions, is it necessary to use custom play books and modify QB traits to get ootb version to play well? What's the downside of not doing that? It seems to me the lack of QB scramble and stale repetitive CPU play calling was an issue pre patches. Was hoping maybe the day one patch caused those issues and that the true ootb would play out better overall. Thanks!
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No doubt the game definitely plays better out of the box. I'm coming back from trip and since I was using the hotels free WiFi I figured what the hell I'll see what like with the patches and tuners.

No....just....no. It's horrible with the patch, high scores all the time no rough hard played defensive games. Which of you just look back at some of my posts I was getting before.

And of course their's the QB accuracy issue, but even more than that for me was that it seemed no matter what I called or audibled or anything there was almost always a guy pretty much wide open. I mean I could've had a sky high completion % with those looks.

Only thing that I hate about going back is losing the color rush unis. Really wish EA had made the dlc instead of combined with a patch.

But oh well I'll be deleting all of it when I get home. At least I was able to get some updated rosters out of it.
Definitely good to see.(found this on pg. 54, top of pg)
I went back to pg. 50 to calculate all your total plays from then till now.
User and CPU, I will post your avgs asap.

Thanks for sharing all the game stats and thoughts, it means more than just opinions and therioes imo.

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In all your opinions, is it necessary to use custom play books and modify QB traits to get ootb version to play well? What's the downside of not doing that? It seems to me the lack of QB scramble and stale repetitive CPU play calling was an issue pre patches. Was hoping maybe the day one patch caused those issues and that the true ootb would play out better overall. Thanks!
I have found it helps the overall experience..have not played a game without then since moving to "OOTB"
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Just chiming in to say that I gave pre-patch game play a try as a result of this thread, and I agree with your assessment, D81. This is a much more dynamic game out of the box than after the patches. It's sad that this is so.

Playcalling is better. Fatigue, even with accelerated clock, is better. QB AI is way better. Anyway, just wanted to corroborate. I'm staying out of the main threads with this, but to me, going back to default OOTB game play is much more enjoyable.
Good to hear from you, Trojan Man
Feel free to post some games if your still playing.
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