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  • #1
    MHammer113
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    • Oct 2008
    • 422

    Progressive Lighting


    How is the Progressive Lighting done in Madden, if at all?

    I am really not seeing much and I am definitely not seeing it portrayed correct based upon geography and time of the year. This and dynamic weather would add alot to the game and I am curious when or if this will happen. Thanks
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    Detroit Tigers
    MVP
    • Mar 2018
    • 1377

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    Progressive Lighting

    This is one of those topics that gets shouted down, “fiX gAmEpLaY wHo CaReS abt Lighting?!?” but I’m with you dude. I’d be embarrassed if I was in charge of this. No love or attention to detail here at all.

    As for your when/if question, they probably won’t do jack about this till they put it on a new engine is my guess. Same goes for unis getting dirty and better snow games.
    Last edited by Detroit Tigers; 12-05-2022, 08:15 PM.
    Just one man’s opinion.
    I don’t actually care about any of this.

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    • #3
      pookie young
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      • Nov 2015
      • 13

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      We definitely need a weather upgrade it should be more Dynamic. We should be able to control the Temp like in the old NCAA games were it can be cold without snowing, We should hear the Thunder when it's raining and see the field get muddier as the game goes on.... And the snow in Madden is awful every field looks the same the snow doesn't build as the game goes on. Buffalo shouldn't look like Green Bay. We should see players fatigue faster and sweat more when playing in Miami and Tampa on Hot day!!! Madden has work to do even on the lighting which I honestly don't think is as bad as the weather IMO.

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      • #4
        MHammer113
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        • Oct 2008
        • 422

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        1. Lighting based on times of the year and geography. So a Patriots game at 1 in September should look different than December.

        2. Weather should change throughout the game. It could start cloudy, end sunny. Start with clouds, end with a snow and progressively build

        3. Field degradation and uniform should dynamic. I had cooper rush come in for handoffs at the end of my last game and he had grass stains everywhere. HE DIDNT PLAY!
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        • #5
          oneamongthefence
          Nothing to see here folks
          • Apr 2009
          • 5686

          Re: Progressive Lighting


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          Snow games are laughable with how bad the snow is on the field. It looks like a 2d texture just slapped down. But I wouldn't mind the weather just changing between quarters. And if it snows there should be some accumulation on the field as the game goes on. As it stands now by the end of the game it'll be snowing a ton but the field will be mostly snow free.

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          • #6
            ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
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            • Dec 2009
            • 4682

            Re: Progressive Lighting


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            Originally posted by oneamongthefence
            Snow games are laughable with how bad the snow is on the field. It looks like a 2d texture just slapped down. But I wouldn't mind the weather just changing between quarters. And if it snows there should be some accumulation on the field as the game goes on. As it stands now by the end of the game it'll be snowing a ton but the field will be mostly snow free.

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            They already do that with the lighting (changing by quarter), so why would weather be so tough? But then there probably is some issues stemming from lack of foresight when the design was first made.

            As far as lighting based on year, on PC you were able to accommodate that by manually changing kickoff times utilizing a fan made tool. I used to fix the lack of time zones doing that.
            Originally posted by Therebelyell626
            I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
            https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

            Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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            • #7
              poulka
              Pro
              • Jan 2011
              • 929

              Re: Progressive Lighting


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              Thus has been a pet peavey of mine with Madden the last 7 to 8 years.

              Lighting needs to be dynamic not tied to quarters. Also lighting needs to be regional as well. Northeast games get dark real early. West coast games look like east coast 4 o clock games.

              Now weather. Weather has not seen an upgrade the last decade. Weather needs to dynamic and be able to combined wind/rain and rain/snow mixed. Gives us unlimited weather combination as long as it makes sense. Ex no snow in Miami. I am like someone else said Madden 02 had four Weather sliders Precip. Wind. Temp. Fog

              And finally uniform degradation looks like something from 20 years ago ps1. All players get dirty very similar. Remember when Madden touted the unique ways jerseys could get dirty. I forgot the year but it quoted saying player will fall on shoulder and the shoulder on the shirt would get dirty. Now all these years later we have an inferior weather, lighting and uniform degradation system but on consoles that can do many different things at one time. See Forza Horizon 5. Multiple weather conditions on one huge map. You can see this events in real time as you travel the map.
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              • #8
                MHammer113
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                • Oct 2008
                • 422

                Re: Progressive Lighting


                Re: Progressive Lighting

                Originally posted by poulka
                Thus has been a pet peavey of mine with Madden the last 7 to 8 years.

                Lighting needs to be dynamic not tied to quarters. Also lighting needs to be regional as well. Northeast games get dark real early. West coast games look like east coast 4 o clock games.

                Now weather. Weather has not seen an upgrade the last decade. Weather needs to dynamic and be able to combined wind/rain and rain/snow mixed. Gives us unlimited weather combination as long as it makes sense. Ex no snow in Miami. I am like someone else said Madden 02 had four Weather sliders Precip. Wind. Temp. Fog

                And finally uniform degradation looks like something from 20 years ago ps1. All players get dirty very similar. Remember when Madden touted the unique ways jerseys could get dirty. I forgot the year but it quoted saying player will fall on shoulder and the shoulder on the shirt would get dirty. Now all these years later we have an inferior weather, lighting and uniform degradation system but on consoles that can do many different things at one time. See Forza Horizon 5. Multiple weather conditions on one huge map. You can see this events in real time as you travel the map.
                Well said on all fronts. Longevity of sports games, specially madden, are really struggling. These are ways to make them more appealing
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                • #9
                  ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
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                  • Dec 2009
                  • 4682

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                  Yeah west coast games are played at 1 PM, not 4 PM. Time zones are missing in the game.
                  Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                  I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                  https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                  Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Vanman2425
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                    • Jun 2007
                    • 226

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                    This is literally the first thing I check every year. I load up a franchise with Seattle play their first home 4:25 start and lo and behold every year, it's looks like 4:25 Eastern time instead of 1:25 Pacific.
                    Originally posted by ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                    Yeah west coast games are played at 1 PM, not 4 PM. Time zones are missing in the game.
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                    • #11
                      JayD
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 5457

                      Re: Progressive Lighting


                      Re: Progressive Lighting

                      Originally posted by MHammer113
                      How is the Progressive Lighting done in Madden, if at all?

                      I am really not seeing much and I am definitely not seeing it portrayed correct based upon geography and time of the year. This and dynamic weather would add a lot to the game and I am curious when or if this will happen. Thanks
                      What's sad, and I've brought this up to them on countless occasions, the central and west coast games are coded as east come time. All games start late afternoon and end in darkness.

                      I started a thread on EA answer HQ so go blow it up and perhaps it will actually get noticed.

                      https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Report...11817136#M3117
                      Last edited by JayD; 12-08-2022, 09:38 AM.

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                      • #12
                        MHammer113
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 422

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                        Originally posted by JayD
                        What's sad, and I've brought this up to them on countless occasions, the central and west coast games are coded as east come time. All games start late afternoon and end in darkness.

                        I started a thread on EA answer HQ so go blow it up and perhaps it will actually get noticed.

                        https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Report...11817136#M3117

                        I just hopped on that thread, thanks for letting me know. I really don’t understand how this has gone unaddressed year after after. I’m sorry but if you want to consider yourself a “simulation” experience, that doesn’t just include the teams and the player names. It’s 2022…not 1999
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                        • #13
                          poulka
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 929

                          Re: Progressive Lighting


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                          When it comes to lighting and weather in Madden EA just turns a blind eye. Maybe they are hoping to do away with lighting and weather if all teams go to domes which looks like the current trend. Bears I think Titans who will be next Brown Packers and Steelers LOL.
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                          • #14
                            MHammer113
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                            • Oct 2008
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                            Originally posted by poulka
                            When it comes to lighting and weather in Madden EA just turns a blind eye. Maybe they are hoping to do away with lighting and weather if all teams go to domes which looks like the current trend. Bears I think Titans who will be next Brown Packers and Steelers LOL.
                            This made me laugh a ton
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                            • #15
                              MHammer113
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 422

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                              Had a new one happen today.

                              4:30 nfc divisional round game at Philadelphia. Here were the goodies.

                              1. Game started with bright sun for a 4:30 game in January. Should have almost been dark.

                              2. Everyone wearing short sleeves including the fans, meanwhile the announcers mentioned the cold air. Looked like it was 80.

                              3. There was almost no progressive lighting and in the fourth quarter which by now it should be completely dark, the shadows had moved only a few feet.

                              4. The game crashes (LOL) come back to the game at the same point and now all of a sudden it was completely dark.

                              Wtffff is going on EA?
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