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  • Hooe
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    • Aug 2002
    • 21554

    #1

    Madden 24 Playbooks now available

    Madden-School just posted all of them: https://www.madden-school.com/playbooks/
  • toodles2you90
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    • Apr 2018
    • 501

    #2
    Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

    Jags Duval.png

    What is going on here?

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    • HypeRNT
      Rookie
      • Apr 2016
      • 368

      #3
      Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

      Originally posted by CM Hooe
      Madden-School just posted all of them: https://www.madden-school.com/playbooks/
      nice lets go!

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      • Hooe
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        • Aug 2002
        • 21554

        #4
        Madden 24 Playbooks now available

        Originally posted by toodles2you90
        [ATTACH]206915[/ATTACH]

        What is going on here?

        Looks like broken play art where two of the routes have an extra (0,0) coordinate (or whatever the top-left corresponds to). There are always a few plays in the playbooks with art bugs like this every year. It’s just the art that is wrong, the play doesn’t actually do this.

        I assume the B receiver’s route is supposed to just be an drag route that sits down just ahead of the presnap spot of the ball, while the A receiver is supposed to be a Y-Over route, similar to one found in Y-Trips — Four Verticals.

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        • UFCMPunk
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          • Jan 2016
          • 8799

          #5
          Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

          Originally posted by toodles2you90
          [ATTACH]206915[/ATTACH]

          What is going on here?
          Speaking as a Ravens fan, clearly Greg Roman designed this play. You have receivers essentially going to the same area in typical Greg Roman fashion.

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          • John_2400
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            • Feb 2017
            • 145

            #6
            Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

            Defensive playbooks left in the dust again nothing’s changed ☹️.

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            • HypeRNT
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              • Apr 2016
              • 368

              #7
              Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

              i wish there was a way to check all the new plays added, like a check mark next to them or something.

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              • IlluminatusUIUC
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                • Jan 2010
                • 2667

                #8
                Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

                Originally posted by John_2400
                Defensive playbooks left in the dust again nothing’s changed ☹️.

                Yes, Nickel is the base defense of the NFL now and you'd never know it from the absurd about of 3-4/4-3 formation plays by comparison.


                ETA: Every year I want to find the QB Blast play from a spread formation. There's rarely more than 1, and it keeps changing for some damn reason. Anyone see it?
                Last edited by IlluminatusUIUC; 08-07-2023, 05:29 PM.
                Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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                • iceman43
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                  • Jun 2003
                  • 261

                  #9
                  Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

                  I hate glitches stuff like this. freaks me out

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                  • IlluminatusUIUC
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                    • Jan 2010
                    • 2667

                    #10
                    Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

                    I found QB Blast still under Empty Quads. There's also something called Empty Chips Quads which I'm not familiar with, but that one doesn't have it. Shotgun Empty Triple Stack has a QB power and a QB RPO (!) which look fun too, though stacking 3 WR on top of each other has a strong chance of breaking the AI.


                    If you see Dolphins in H2H, prepare for this one.



                    And this one
                    Last edited by IlluminatusUIUC; 08-08-2023, 09:05 AM.
                    Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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                    • darren1024
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                      • Feb 2012
                      • 397

                      #11
                      Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

                      Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC
                      Yes, Nickel is the base defense of the NFL now and you'd never know it from the absurd about of 3-4/4-3 formation plays by comparison.


                      ETA: Every year I want to find the QB Blast play from a spread formation. There's rarely more than 1, and it keeps changing for some damn reason. Anyone see it?
                      Saints playbook. Im surprised the Eagles dont have more QB powers, blasts, RPOs.
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                      • IlluminatusUIUC
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                        • Jan 2010
                        • 2667

                        #12
                        Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

                        Originally posted by darren1024
                        Saints playbook. Im surprised the Eagles dont have more QB powers, blasts, RPOs.

                        QB blast runs from a tight formation don't seem to work well IMO. Once you compress the defense, the blocking can't easily handle it and your runner will get stuck. With a halfback you can still get away with it, but with a QB (even a big bastard like Allen) I find you either get knocked backwards or fumble too much to make it worth your while.


                        From spread you can see if they pack to stop the run, then audible to a quick pass.
                        Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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                        • GLegend1226
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                          • Sep 2014
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                          Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

                          Im not sure why they keep messing up Buffalo’s Defensive playbook. They run a base nickel. And they run 4 DLinemen and rotate. Madden keeps putting their nickel as a 2-4 and 3-3 alignment. So when you try to rotate the DLinemen, they put LBs on the edge and not DL.

                          Ill be using the Browns and or Eagles D playbook for the Bills.

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                          • Kodii Rockets
                            I smell sulfur...
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2670

                            #14
                            Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

                            Originally posted by darren1024
                            Saints playbook. Im surprised the Eagles dont have more QB powers, blasts, RPOs.
                            I thought for SURE with the number of 11 personnel QB Powers that were run by teams such as the Eagles, Bills, Bears, etc. last year that they'd add a few more plays of that nature, but alas...
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                            • Hooe
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 21554

                              #15
                              Re: Madden 24 Playbooks now available

                              Originally posted by GLegend1226
                              Im not sure why they keep messing up Buffalo’s Defensive playbook. They run a base nickel. And they run 4 DLinemen and rotate. Madden keeps putting their nickel as a 2-4 and 3-3 alignment. So when you try to rotate the DLinemen, they put LBs on the edge and not DL.

                              Ill be using the Browns and or Eagles D playbook for the Bills.
                              Speaking purely to alignment: Nickel 2-4, Nickel 3-3 Will, and Nickel Over are all four-down fronts with the 3-technique defensive tackle set to the offensive call side (i.e. all three are Over fronts). Where the nose tackle lines up is the main point of distinction between the three sets. In Nickel Over and Nickel 3-3 Will, the nose tackle is shaded over the center away from the call side — a 1-technique nose tackle, or a "shade" for short. In Nickel 2-4, the nose tackle is heads-up over the guard away from the call side — this is known as a 2 technique.

                              Over the past few seasons, NFL teams have tended to favor using 2T DTs — more specifically, 2i DTs; a 2i is over the inside shoulder of the guard away from the call side, as opposed to directly heads-up over the guard — over shade DTs as the backside defensive tackle because increasing the distance between the backside DT and the center provides the defense better angles defending against outside zone. The greater distance between the 2 / 2i and the center disrupts the timing of the blocking scheme just enough that the combo blocks which outside zone relies on to spring loose don't hit as quickly or reliably, since the center has more ground to cover to reach the backside DT. Often the center will not attempt to combo block a backside 2 or 2i at all and instead will work to a linebacker instead. Obviously, fewer combination blocks means more one-on-one matchups, which affords more opportunities for individual run defenders to defeat blocks and stop a run play before it gets going. The use of 2i DTs in nickel sets was popularized recently by Brandon Staley, specifically looking at the defensive fronts he deployed while he was the defensive coordinator for the Rams.

                              Specific to Madden: one pass coverage point of distinction between all these four-down Nickel fronts is that Cover 3 Buzz is only available in Nickel Over. I honestly have no idea why this is the case. Additionally, the way the defense reassigns gaps for the run fit following a DL slant call changes depending on which Nickel variant one calls.

                              If your goal is to best replicate how the Bills call their defense, what with their frequent use of 2-hi safety match coverages and relying purely on the front four to stop the run game, you might actually want to find a playbook which has Nickel 2-4 (especially since the Bills don't appear to have on their roster a quality pure nose tackle who can reliably handle those double teams). Unfortunately I don't think there's any defensive formation in Madden which aligns a backside DT as a 2i, so Nickel 2-4 with a 2T is the best we can do for now.

                              Honestly, Nickel Over and Nickel 3-3 Will are a bit redundant? There's no real difference between the two formations, and the naming convention is a holdover from when Madden rigidly differentiated between 4-3 and 3-4 teams. Following the addition of the RLE and RRE depth chart positions, that naming convention now only confuses people. Hopefully Tiburon can break away from all the legacy playbook cruft holding defense and give us actual gap assignments, true call sides, and so on for defenses soon.
                              Last edited by Hooe; 08-08-2023, 04:03 PM.

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