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Old 06-15-2014, 03:03 AM   #209
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Old 06-15-2014, 03:19 AM   #210
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Does anyone remember the online leagues in 2004? 2k announced online leagues with full website support for 2k5. This completely caught EA with their pants down. They did not support this in Madden. MAGICALLY - shortly after 2k launched their leagues, EA found the time, talent and energy to implement them as well using some sponsorship from Dodge or Chrysler. Imagine that... Once again, Tiburon needs their hand held to accomplish anything. They are not a good developer. They do not think of things on their own, they completely incapable of modeling their product off of the NFL (always inventing their own presentation) and every year the same things have to be re-written. Basically, like AJ Dembroski said in his twitter rant, we get lied to. Every year we listen to how this and that has been completely re-written so that it works now, only to be told the following year that this and that didn't work. WTF?

You guys realize that zone coverage has been re-written supposedly every year since Madden 12. How many times do you have to rewrite the zone coverage to get it right? Tweaks, bug fixes and general enhancements absolutely yes. COmplete re-writes? This tells me what I already knew about the programmers writing the code. They struggle and, quite frankly, I firmly believe a lot of the stuff that's missing doesn't get done because they don't know how to do it. In past football games we got a complete game, without those things being touted on the back of the box. They were just assumed because you can't have a football game without the actual football stuff in it, right?

Presentation has been re-done every single year, and it STILL isn't right. JUST COPY WHAT IS IN REAL LIFE!!! HOW HARD IS IT TO UNDERSTAND THAT???? NHL is doing it, FIFA has multiple broadcast teams, this is not rocket science.

How are you supposed to advance your game significantly if you keep re-doing the same crap every year?
Great points. What you said in bold caught my eye. I think, even without what AJ said (I never caught his tweets personally) I think it's obvious to any football gaming fan that fans get lied to. I just don't believe it takes any developer--whose sole focus is to make football games every year--so long to implement elements or features of the game that replicate real football.

I'm not saying developing or coding a football game is easy. I'm just saying it doesn't require much creativity. You watch football games. You take notes. You speak to NFL players. You take notes. You speak to NFL coaches. You takes notes. Then, you simply replicate what you see and hear.

I mean, they aren't building games involving trolls and caves and mythical lands. It's football--and you've been doing it 25 years.

I actually am looking forward to Madden 15--probably the first football game I'm genuinely looking forward to since 2K5. But there's really no excuse to be so far behind not only your predecessor, but your current peers in sports gaming. And there's certainly no reason why you should be introducing features only to either abandon them or outright remove them.

Watch. Listen. Take notes. Replicate what you see and hear.

Simple.

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Old 06-15-2014, 03:55 AM   #211
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Just out of curiosity, do you care about the facts or are you content believing what you believe? I only ask because if you care about the facts I'll try to find a links for you if not I'll just leave it be, as others have.
Lol. Go ahead and give me the facts their bub. I already know that the NFL supposedly took less money from EA, but it doesn't change the fact that there were offers from both companies on the table.

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Lol. First off you don't know what I do outside of this site my man. Secondly you are entitled to your opinion, I'll leave it at that.
.....? So let's hear it then "my man."

It's easy to pretend like you know more information without actually revealing any of that information. Good job. You totally just won the argument by being condescending while never really revealing you know squat about what happened. You just insinuated you did.

Great point. My man. I look forward to you actually contributing your knowledge. Unless you really are just going to leave it at that? I mean, if you really do know more about it, wouldn't it benefit us all if you shared this information?

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Old 06-15-2014, 03:58 AM   #212
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:22 AM   #213
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I suppose it's possible but 2k knew the license was up after this year. It would've made more sense to approach the NFL two years ago so their game would be ready now when the ps4 and Xbox1 one are just getting started. EA had to recode or port madden to these consoles so this is about as level of a playing field as they could hope for.

I think this was our last realistic window for a competitor. I'm a little surprised the NFL would go exclusive for so long. EA holds are the cards when negotiating the price now. This isn't apparel where Nike can replace Reebok in a month or so. But the NFL must know something I don't. They're pretty good at making money.
Not necessarily because remember with a new system comes new development tools and it would have been impossible for 2K to know what the PS4 and Xbox One would be capable of 2 years ago. Now 2K knows and now they can start working on a new game. Also consider the fact that the install base for these systems are very small now and will be much greater two years from now. Why invest in such an expensive license now with little chance of recouping cost and selling as many copies then you would 2 years from now when the install base will be much greater, you can only sell as many copies as there are systems sold. Smart business would dictate be patient and attack when the odds are on your side.

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I think it's time to forget this now. EA and madden are all that there will ever be again so we just have to hope for the best.

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Old 06-15-2014, 07:07 AM   #215
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Plain and simple....

EA Sports is a Great White Shark and 2K Sports are guppies in the world of video gaming. No way 2K Sports is in any financial state to compete to buy into the license. If you break it down... 2K Sports only real successful game is NBA 2K. No way they have the same kind of deep pockets EA has. Money always makes things move and unfortunately 2K doesn't have enough capitol to stomp with the big boys. It is the nature of the beast.

It's all comes down to money at the end of the day.

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Plain and simple....

EA Sports is a Great White Shark and 2K Sports are guppies in the world of video gaming. No way 2K Sports is in any financial state to compete to buy into the license. If you break it down... 2K Sports only real successful game is NBA 2K. No way they have the same kind of deep pockets EA has. Money always makes things move and unfortunately 2K doesn't have enough capitol to stomp with the big boys. It is the nature of the beast.

It's all comes down to money at the end of the day.
2k sports is a subsidiary of a company with some pretty deep pockets themselves. It's not some operation run out of some guys garage.
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